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HELP W/ SUBOXONE DETOX
Hey everyone..I haven't been on in a long time, probably b/c things are going well. Anyway I lost my job and am out my health insurance. I have enough subox for about 1 month.
Can I stop taking the suboxone and use vicodin to ease any w/d symptoms? Suboxone is such a strong med-even if it does not get you high that I would think the vic would help and clear out of my system within 24 hours. That way I can either dramatically reduce my dose (I'm on 12 mg daily) and buy me some time to figure this mess out maybe I'll be able to stop altogether.
by the way----you do not go into wd from taking an opiate AFTER you take suboxone. The suboxone will just keep them from adhering to the receptors and you will not get high.
any help would be really appreciated and I really hope that you are all well. I see many of the same names!
Can I stop taking the suboxone and use vicodin to ease any w/d symptoms? Suboxone is such a strong med-even if it does not get you high that I would think the vic would help and clear out of my system within 24 hours. That way I can either dramatically reduce my dose (I'm on 12 mg daily) and buy me some time to figure this mess out maybe I'll be able to stop altogether.
by the way----you do not go into wd from taking an opiate AFTER you take suboxone. The suboxone will just keep them from adhering to the receptors and you will not get high.
any help would be really appreciated and I really hope that you are all well. I see many of the same names!
Hi. I too am a new mom, well relatively, she's going to be 1 in 2 weeks.
I quit c/t back in Feb and stayed with my mother. I was unable to function for 3 days but then I could almost be a normal person. I felt like hell but I could take care of my child. Then I got seriously hurt, had 2 surgeries and a miscarriage recently and had to to back on them again but this time I chose to go on Subutex top stop. I posted my tapering schedule up top. It wasn't hard for me and I had very little discomfort. I'm sorry tapering down is hard for you. Maybe it's cause your DOC was heroin and mine was a 200 mg a day percocet habit.
Can you get anyone to help you for 3-5 days? If so, I would HIGHLY suggest to go c/t. It's like having the worst flu ever and there are things that can help, like restful legs by hylands (sold at walmart and cvs etc). To me the restlessness was the worst. And immodium cause you will have the major runs. Sleep will be the last thing to truen but it CAN be done. Do it for your child. That's what got me through and when I went c/t in Feb I had 50 pills left. I think just knowing that I had them made me feel better. How and why I didn't cave in is still a mystery.
I do have to say though that if you're sweating on the Sub, your dose mightnot be high enough. Can you try and taper every 3 to 5 days by 2 mg? When I stopped I got myself down to .25 and my w/d were very very mild. I had clonidone to help (not klonopin) but I didn't even use it.
I wish you luck with whatever you decide.
I quit c/t back in Feb and stayed with my mother. I was unable to function for 3 days but then I could almost be a normal person. I felt like hell but I could take care of my child. Then I got seriously hurt, had 2 surgeries and a miscarriage recently and had to to back on them again but this time I chose to go on Subutex top stop. I posted my tapering schedule up top. It wasn't hard for me and I had very little discomfort. I'm sorry tapering down is hard for you. Maybe it's cause your DOC was heroin and mine was a 200 mg a day percocet habit.
Can you get anyone to help you for 3-5 days? If so, I would HIGHLY suggest to go c/t. It's like having the worst flu ever and there are things that can help, like restful legs by hylands (sold at walmart and cvs etc). To me the restlessness was the worst. And immodium cause you will have the major runs. Sleep will be the last thing to truen but it CAN be done. Do it for your child. That's what got me through and when I went c/t in Feb I had 50 pills left. I think just knowing that I had them made me feel better. How and why I didn't cave in is still a mystery.
I do have to say though that if you're sweating on the Sub, your dose mightnot be high enough. Can you try and taper every 3 to 5 days by 2 mg? When I stopped I got myself down to .25 and my w/d were very very mild. I had clonidone to help (not klonopin) but I didn't even use it.
I wish you luck with whatever you decide.
I've been taking sub for less than six months, I take between 4mg to 8mg a day. I'm a new mom and just trying to maintain. My daughter is what saved me from my first downward spiral, now I'm just spiraling First off I can't even afford the ****, its worse on my pocket book then H addiction. My doc says I can get financal assistance, I did my part, now I leave messages with the nurse weekly and havent heard back. I sweat like crazy on the **** and when I try to taper off. I wish I was never introduced to any opiates, they have tried to ruin me over and over again. Deep down I know I have the strength to change for good, I thought sub would help me on my way, but its no worse then a full opiate. They trick us with this partial op-****. What are they doing to us, what have I done to myself.
Sincerly, Going Crazy
Sincerly, Going Crazy
Thank you so very much. Although I am sooooooooo sorry for what you went through, I am grateful you found the strength to tell us about it so as to maybe spare someone else the pain. Lord knows the doctors would have you on it forever if they could.
Have a great Sunday!!!
Have a great Sunday!!!
I remember when we first discussed you quitting with SUB. I was praying for you every day and hoping that you would not get sold a bill of goods by your DR's. You used Sub for the way it was intended to be used and you should be very proud of yourself for that. I am so glad that you were able to get off of everything and I know Rachie is too. Please keep up the great work, I will always be pulling for you and I am so glad my SUB story (nightmare) helped you. I feel like I need to keep coming on this site to warn other about SUB and I did not think it was doing any good because people still think that it can be used long-term and it really upsets me when I read about this. Have a wonderful Sunday and I am very proud of you!!!
Take the 8 mg pill and break it into half (4mg), then half again (2mg), then half again (1mg), then half again (.5mg) and finally one more time (.25mg), which is where I jumped off from.
I suggest getting a pill splitter or doing it with a razor because it can crumble a bit.
wdagain..... the reason I wanted to be on less than 3 weeks is to avoid the w/d that you went through. how incredibly strong to see that through when it would have been easier to stay and w/d from the pain killers.
Docs have no clue what they are dishing out and that is why it's very important to do research on it before youstart. It's not as easy quick fix as many would like to think it is and it's not to be started light heartedly. It's serious and if not taken correctly, it an be maddening to get off.
wdagain, I applaud you for your vigilance proving once more that if you want it badly enough you can have it, sobriety that its!
I suggest getting a pill splitter or doing it with a razor because it can crumble a bit.
wdagain..... the reason I wanted to be on less than 3 weeks is to avoid the w/d that you went through. how incredibly strong to see that through when it would have been easier to stay and w/d from the pain killers.
Docs have no clue what they are dishing out and that is why it's very important to do research on it before youstart. It's not as easy quick fix as many would like to think it is and it's not to be started light heartedly. It's serious and if not taken correctly, it an be maddening to get off.
wdagain, I applaud you for your vigilance proving once more that if you want it badly enough you can have it, sobriety that its!
If you have been on SUB for a long period of time and at high dosages then you must reduce to very small amounts over a long period of time or you will have the worst withdrawals of your life. I would suggest getting to .5mg, "Yes" that is breaking a 8mg tablet into 16 pieces or get the guts to ask you Dr, for 2mg tablets so you can break them into 1/4's. I reduced to 1 or 2mg for over a 5 week period and still had horrific withdrawals for 25 days. Taking Vics, percs to come off of SUB is a great way to get hooked on Vics and percs again. You will not feel the worst of Sub withdrawals until around 3rd day, by the 7th day you feel like you are in a nightmare you can't escape. However, I am on 61st day without the orange dragon and I feel much better than I ever did on SUB. Yes, I have to go to NA all the time and yes I have to not "use" no matter what happens in my life but I am so glad I got off of Sub after being on that S^%$#it for over 3 years. It is worth the hell I had to pay to get off of it. Good luck
I started on day one at 16 mg, day 2 at 12, day 3 at 8, day 4 at 4, day 5 at 2, day 6 at 2, day 7 at 2, had to be hospitalized and got side tracked where I had to be given opiates and they did work, however, the following day I started back (after waiting 12 hours of course, at 4 for 2 days, then 1 for 4 days, then .5 for 4 days then .25 for 4 days, and stopped.
I was prescribbed clonidine but never used it. I was a little sweaty and uncomfortable but it just felt like I hadn't gotten enough sleep. Please note though that I did not feel ANY discomfort coming down at any dose, not from 16 to 12 or frin 8 to 4 and I was a 200 mg a day perc eater for over 6 months and before that a multi 7.5 mg vic a day eater for over a year.
So it was less than a 21 day taper for me and I haven't touched it since. They gave me 60 8mg pills and I have practically the entire bottle left.
That';s when the after care comes in beacuse in my addict's mind I could justify getting high a few more times and then going back on the Subutex just because I have it but I won't because I am doing other things to help heal my mind and body and soul.
I was prescribbed clonidine but never used it. I was a little sweaty and uncomfortable but it just felt like I hadn't gotten enough sleep. Please note though that I did not feel ANY discomfort coming down at any dose, not from 16 to 12 or frin 8 to 4 and I was a 200 mg a day perc eater for over 6 months and before that a multi 7.5 mg vic a day eater for over a year.
So it was less than a 21 day taper for me and I haven't touched it since. They gave me 60 8mg pills and I have practically the entire bottle left.
That';s when the after care comes in beacuse in my addict's mind I could justify getting high a few more times and then going back on the Subutex just because I have it but I won't because I am doing other things to help heal my mind and body and soul.
I detoxed on the sub in 5 days. They started me at 4 mgs every 12 hours for the first few days then down to 2mgs every 12 hours then 2mgs every 24 hours then done.
I wish I never would have begun taking subutex. I kicked heroin over a year ago, then kicked methadone. I was great for a few months, then my husband had a bad fall and we had all these vics, percs and oxys. I wanted to kick all the **** and I heard about sub and have been on it since. The **** makes me sweat like crazy, I never been so uncomfortable in my life,(except H w/d) but I crave the euphoria of opiates, any size big or small. I don't want to be a pill popper anymore, I just want to be my old self, pre-opiates. I feel they have rid my soul of pure happiness. Help!!! P.S. I have some vics can I take them to ween me off of 8mg a day subutex
I only had symptoms for one day after I stopped and that was about 3 days after my last Sub dose.. It was mainly sweats and chills.. and some restlessness.. That passed after a day and a half and I felt better and better after that.. Its been 56 days since I last took Sub and 66 days since I took a hydro..
You have to wait 12 hours after taking hydro to take Sub again.. I highly suggest if you go back on it that you only take 2mgs at the most.. and just do a taper.. You could be off of Sub in two weeks and have all the withdrawls done with..I dropped a mgs or two everyday til I was down to 0.5mgs the last 2 days then stopped. Since you have been done from the site I did alot of reserch into Sub and people who were on doses over 4-8mgs or who were on it for longer than a month.. alot of them had wicked long drawn out withdrawls. So if you can get off of it I would you have been on it 8 months.. that is along time from what I have read.. Yes the doctors tell you to be on it for awhile to 'get your life together" but a pill everyday is not the way to do that.. That is treating pill addiction with pills..Fighting fire with fire.. Let me know if you need anything.. I am always around.. and I think you have my email..
You have to wait 12 hours after taking hydro to take Sub again.. I highly suggest if you go back on it that you only take 2mgs at the most.. and just do a taper.. You could be off of Sub in two weeks and have all the withdrawls done with..I dropped a mgs or two everyday til I was down to 0.5mgs the last 2 days then stopped. Since you have been done from the site I did alot of reserch into Sub and people who were on doses over 4-8mgs or who were on it for longer than a month.. alot of them had wicked long drawn out withdrawls. So if you can get off of it I would you have been on it 8 months.. that is along time from what I have read.. Yes the doctors tell you to be on it for awhile to 'get your life together" but a pill everyday is not the way to do that.. That is treating pill addiction with pills..Fighting fire with fire.. Let me know if you need anything.. I am always around.. and I think you have my email..
Hi--you detoxed off sub by tapering in 10 days???? I was on day 3 this morning and starting to feel pretty uncomfortable. I took 2 vics and I feel okay now...but all is not lost. I havent' taken any suboxone in three days so this is the first time I have gone long enough just to at least get some of it out of me. I'll take any progress over no progress.
Did you feel pretty bad? Was it as bad as vic, perc, or heroin w/d? Did you have any fatigue for a few months? I'm on adderrall too so I don't think that will be a prob. Wow!! That's awesome gurl!!! U R probably so happy.
I have been on sub since January, I think. Sometime around there shortly after comming on to medhelp an learning about it. It is a much better solution than any of the alternatives available, I think. I was taking (2) 8 mg then went to 1 1/2 8mg and then to either one 8 mg. or sometimes I take another 1/2 at night. I did this within 2 months b/c I felt I really didn't need the large dosage. But now b/c of loss of health insurance and finances I need to reduce drastically again or stop. I want to do it so that I still have some sub left if I should be unsuccessful or start having problems after tapering off the last of it. Then I will have a little time to get some cash together to go back to the doc and pay cash for the subs. What do they cost?
thanx for answering..how long after the last vic can I take suboxone. I think I am just going to ride it out and when I feel bad take a 1 mg and see how I feel and so often. Then I can taper from the lowest dosage that I hopefully will now need after getting some of it out of me.
an addict's reasoning? does that make sense?
Did you feel pretty bad? Was it as bad as vic, perc, or heroin w/d? Did you have any fatigue for a few months? I'm on adderrall too so I don't think that will be a prob. Wow!! That's awesome gurl!!! U R probably so happy.
I have been on sub since January, I think. Sometime around there shortly after comming on to medhelp an learning about it. It is a much better solution than any of the alternatives available, I think. I was taking (2) 8 mg then went to 1 1/2 8mg and then to either one 8 mg. or sometimes I take another 1/2 at night. I did this within 2 months b/c I felt I really didn't need the large dosage. But now b/c of loss of health insurance and finances I need to reduce drastically again or stop. I want to do it so that I still have some sub left if I should be unsuccessful or start having problems after tapering off the last of it. Then I will have a little time to get some cash together to go back to the doc and pay cash for the subs. What do they cost?
thanx for answering..how long after the last vic can I take suboxone. I think I am just going to ride it out and when I feel bad take a 1 mg and see how I feel and so often. Then I can taper from the lowest dosage that I hopefully will now need after getting some of it out of me.
an addict's reasoning? does that make sense?
You should taper off the Sub.. It can be done.. I used it to detox in a 10 day period.. Never looked back..Using vicodin to get off Sub is kinda counter productive..
Of course you don't go into withdrawl from taking an opiate with Sub.. the Sub blocks the other opiate from getting to the receptor.. You just have to start all over again with waiting til you hit withdrawls to take more Sub otherwise you will get sick..
How long have you been on Sub?? IF you are at 12mgs I would assume not long..
Of course you don't go into withdrawl from taking an opiate with Sub.. the Sub blocks the other opiate from getting to the receptor.. You just have to start all over again with waiting til you hit withdrawls to take more Sub otherwise you will get sick..
How long have you been on Sub?? IF you are at 12mgs I would assume not long..
Welcome, did you know that in a inpatient detox using Subutex or Suboxone it is a five day process....
If a patient treats himself in most cases you will find all your doing is substituting one drug for another.........it is the nature of the beast........
Addicts take pills or their drug of choice that is what addicts do.......
How can you expect an addict who has no control over taking drugs to take Suboxone as perscribed.......
If a patient treats himself in most cases you will find all your doing is substituting one drug for another.........it is the nature of the beast........
Addicts take pills or their drug of choice that is what addicts do.......
How can you expect an addict who has no control over taking drugs to take Suboxone as perscribed.......
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