Happy Halloween - Open Forum

[groovygirl]

Happy Halloween everyone - Have a great day and night.

[puma]

(Bodymachanic),

You hit the nail on the head. They have proven some people have lower endorphines and Dopamines than others just as diabetics have higher blood suger production.

I also feel like **** most of the time and would love to be able to take anything I want to relieve the pain when it gets bad. We don't have much say so however, and the addictions are well documented, for these various things as you know.


(Teamee), you have been posting for several days and still seem to looking for that quick desperation fix. Sorry if I am too blunt.

I really think you need a thorough checkup, and I am sure you can get relief somewhere.

You mentioned you don't drink much but take Nyquil! What do you think is in Nyquil that make people sleep? (Alcohol).

If you are going the alcohol route for relief just buy cheap Gin and mix it. It surely will make you sleep better than Niquil, but remember eventually you will have to deal with the skakes in the morning and start to drink 24/7 for relief.

I was lucky, I caught my addiction in time before any liver damage or dementia set in. Some may disagree, LOL! I did have some interesting detox sessions at the mental health center though, swearing, violence, tie downs, the whole nine yards. And that was with meds for relief from withdrawal symptoms.

If you think that is what you want for your life, than online pharmicies in your best bet.

I pray you decide to come clean and give it up. I know it's hard. I've been fighting this **** for over four years. So many people here even for much longer than that.

Tell us more about your life and why you need to numb yourself or sedate yourself from the world please! Belive me, I am not preaching as I am no angle here, just concerned and trying to recover like most people on this forum. Sorry for babbling.

Take care,

Chatahan

[taeme]

I see what your saying, but my advice was with reference to coke which I've been there and done it, and not touched a drop of it in over 4 yrs. So that's the only place I offer advice, as far as opiodes go I have no advice just suggestions that I have on good authority. I never imply to have the answer or presume to be better than anyone.  I'm a talker and conversational type person thats how I help myself with a sort of interaction.  As far as listening goes, speak away I am listening.  I give no judgement and expect none.  I appreciate your opinion and as I said above my only advice comes from what I do know.  See I can see the reality of my own problem but I just don't know that I care.  I just want to be happy.

[taeme]

I'm reading through the messages and I hope that I'm not stepping on toes.  I have no intension of doing this. I like a lot of you have extensive knowledge about medications, I also have a strong medical background.  I've always know what these things could do before I even started.  I just didn't care anything, any medicine that made me feel good.  Start with my favorites, work my way down until they're all gone.  Down to the benadryl and the Nyquil, alcohol at times, but I can really drink (thank god) cause it give me a migraine not always but you just never know and thats one of the pains I'm trying to alleviate not create.  Just wanted to ask.  It is not my intension by any means.

[Bodymechanic]

I mean this in a kind and loving way but it seems to me you have come a long way in a very short time.  Just a few posts ago you were asking about online pharmacies.  Now you are asking people what they were thinking while off on a drug run.  I am not judgeing you and I am definately not trying to be confrontational but I think you might do well with a lot more introspection and less making suggestions. If I am stepping over a the line here someone please tell me. I learned in 12 step meetings a long time ago that I do much better with a lot more listening and a lot less talking.

You are difinately on the right track, keep up the good work.  We will all support you.

Peace

[Sundown]

I just posted to taeme, and when I went back to the forum, another comment welcoming me to the forum seemed to have " diaappeared". I tried reloading the forum several times but never found the post again. At any rate, thanks for welcoming me and for your support. I owe a lot to the forum and the fine people who have had the courage to share their stories and provide hope and safety to me over the last month. I guess my way of thanking you all is by finally stepping up and posting my story as well with the hope that someone else might find hope from my experience.

I never thought I could break this addiction. I was convinced that I would spend the rest of my life (as long as it lasted) stuck in addiction. If I could do it, believe me, anyone can. I knew every trick to getting my drugs, I used every rationale to keep using (after all, if it took away my "pain", why would I ever stop).

To all of you, thank you for "being there". While you may not have been posting support to me directly, you actually were a great source of comfort and support. I owe you all a debt of gratitude. Now I hope to give back by talking to all of you. I welcome your friendship and support. We all need each other, and we are not alone in our struggles.

Sundown

[Sundown]

At the time I was taking so much vike ES, I didn't care if it killed me. All I wanted was the relief the hydro offered. Yes, the dose of tylenol was crazy, up to 35 GRAMS a day, potentially fatal. How it didn't kill my liver is amazing. I guess I thank god that it didn't kill me. I certainly know of people who have dies from those kinds of doses, but at the time I was so out of control it didn't matter. That goes to show how twisted and destuctive the drive for opiates can be.

I noticed you have been using vicoprofen. While the motrin may not be directly toxic to the liver like tylenol, high doses can cause bleeding ulcers and kidney damage. Remeber, none of this stuff is safe, they all kill you slowly but surely.

I know how scary stopping is. Believe me, I never thought I would ever escape from the nightmare and really thought I would end up dead. It was when I finally reached my bottom, lost my family, my home, and my business that I finally began to see that the final loss would be me. That's when I chose life. Stopping a 300 to 400 hydro habit scared me but I knew I had to. I did it only with a few days of Darvon to soften the blow. Suprisingly, the withdrawl wasn't as bad as the misery I felt using the damn drugs.

I am now preparing to live my life again. I still have a beautiful 7 year old daughter who still needs her daddy. Now she may actually have one again.

No matter how seductive the drugs may be, remember they are your enemy. They seduce and kill. The fact that you are coming to this forum suggests you are starting to see that for yourself. Please believe there is a good life on the other side.

Sundown