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How does Tyrosine help curb withdrawl..can someone elaborate ????

DMR
Can someone please elaborate about the correct use of L-tyrosine and its possible side effects????

I want to try to start and stay on that so I don't call in for another "refill"

As posted on another thread, I am not a big time addict yet...anyway

I've been on Vicoprofen for 6 months on and off..
The most I've ever taken in one day is 4-5 pills and that too I've only done on 4 ocassions within those six months

I am suffering (sort of) from lower back pain....

thanks
DMR
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Mike,
Thats a good question. You might want to throw that one somewhere
up top so that someone who knows the answer has a chance to
answer it for you-us.
Tom
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I've heard all the info. on tyro. and b-6. Thank you to all from the bottom of my heart!! my question is should I stop all pain meds. first and then take them? I'm taking lortab 10/500 5-6 day with oxy 40 mg. 2x daily and serezone 150 mg. Should I taper down the pain meds and then stop and take tyro/b6 or overlap and then stop the narcs.---I hope you understand what I'm trying to ask.  THANK YOU TO ALL in advance for any help with this.---MIKE
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Why can't you take Tyrosine with Zoloft?
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Be aware that many health insurance policies will not pay for Buprenex. 40 ampules -- more than enough to detox -- will cost you in the neighborhood of $150-$180 dollars.

That's alot cheaper than you're "private" online source, I'm sure. But it ain't exactly a co-pay kind of cost, either.
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well...thanks anyway.  if there is a sympathetic fellow addict out there that can point me in the direction of a dr. in the boston area willing to prescribe buprenex, please please let me know who.  i have researched the net, called every dr. in the yellow pages, etc etc - this was all to no avail.  i helped someone on this site obtain buprenex thru a "private" online source, but i cannot use this source myself as he is VERY expensive.  i need a dr. to prescribe it and supervise me during the process - the support is half the battle for me.  any input from anyone would be so much appreciated...good luck all - i'm rooting for each and every one of you.
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First of all Schlub I think you have a great attitude. Take it slow and know the road ahead will be fullof bumps. It's great you have a supportive spouse and have come clean. I had only 3 amps today and feel just fine. I believe the rehab period depends alot on your mental state. With most of us it takes many times of falling back to the old ways before we make that permanent leap, and finially wake up feeling great, singing to the radio and not thinking about drugs and where to get some.
Keep in touch---My thoughts are with all of you that post here.
I have been there too--I just hope this is the begining of the end of that life style and the start of a new one. Witchywoman
said how important her local support group was I am going to search one out also.
To Groovy--I am sorry but wish to keep my personal information just that, so I won't be able to give you any information on where my Dr. is located. There is plenty of advice and information on the internet and even on the posts on this site--just keep reading. Search hard and you will find what your looking for.
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Yes, I stopped the Bup 48 hours ago and actually I'm a bit surprised at how relatively minor the lethargy and depression is. Yesterday I got half a day's work in, today I'm taking it easy, lying around reading a book. I feel enormous guilt that my wife is taking on all the load of taking care of the baby, but she says if I need a little babying myself it's a small price to pay for having a happy healthy and energetic husband again.

It's still possible things will get worse tomorrow -- the dreaded 72 hour high-point on the bell curve of withdrawal symptoms -- but I think tapering from the Bup helped.

And I also think my new mental attitude is helping. I really don't care how bad the lethargy and depression gets this time -- I'm not going to use again! I don't know how to describe it. Maybe it's like when you're running up a steep hill, if you can see the top and know that there's an end to your pain in sight, it just doesn't hurt as much.

But man, if what I feel now -- a bit lethargic, slightly twitchy, not very motivated, but in no great pain or mental despair -- is as bad as it gets, then I'll feel mightily blessed and just assume that for some undeserved reason God has smiled on me.

I want everyone to know that the "panic of withdrawal" is what makes much of detox so difficult. Talk to adoctor, find afriend, open up to your spouse, but do something to let someone else in to steady you through this process. It's quite surprising how much withdrawal distorts our minds and our thinking.

We need help. Seek it out, please.
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hi - this is pretty far down on the posts, so i hope you see it.  please tell me where in the world did you ever find a doctor willing to prescribe you buprenex?????  every dr. i've ever asked looked at me like i was a crazy person...which at this point i am.  why is it that i can get any dr. to prescribe narcotics to me, and i can't get anyone to prescribe a much less addictive one so that i can detox??  any input on this would be so helpful to me.  thanks much!
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Thank you and everyone for the info on Bupernex /down from 5 to 4 amps,a little faster than my pain/rehab Dr. would like but he says if Ican handle it 45-60 days should be totaly clean. thats I scary and exciting idea all in one.
Schlub, I know you said Sunday was your last day of any Bup, so  Plz let me know how it was, How you handled it. I know you were going to do itas fast as I planned 2-3 weeks,but the depression thing came back to mind, I was reminded by the posts and my Dr.and reading the posts, I decided to take it a little slower 6-8 wks, I 'll get down to 1/2 an amp and then  just quit , rite?
Keep in touch all of you and God bless my thoughts are with you  all everyday
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hjp
there is no contraindication with valium and l tyrosine that I've heard of...and hopefully detoxing off 12mg of valium daily won't be that tough, though valium has a very long half life and might be dribbling into your system for the next year(gets deposited into your hair and your bones among other organs). l tyrosine is a precursor to mood elevaters naturally occuring in your brain( norepinephrine and dopamine) that are found at low levels when you are taking narcotics.  So l tyrosine should help elevate your mood when detoxing, and may stave off deeper levels of depression.   Good luck..........hjp
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Thanks, DMR, but I'm not recovered yet.

This is hell week for me. But I'm going to get through it.
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DMR
Schlub,

COngrats on your recovery.  I am doing great although my pain still exists.  But I don't think about those F---ing pills anymore.

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This is a good thread.

In detoxing off vicodin and valium,  I was advised by doctors (and others on this site) to stay on the valium until I'm off the vics (at 1 1/2 per day now, going down 1/2 per week).  When that's done,  will start off the valium at 1 mg per day (at 12 now).

Question I asked earlier was:  does anyone know if valium and tyro interact poorly.  I am advised to stay no the valium when I'm off the vics, and have seen on this thread how tyro has helped people once off the opiates.  However,  I'm afraid to get on the tyro while I'm on the valium....especially if I don't feel the lethargy many of you have described.

Anyone have any thoughs on this?

Thanks!!
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As I was trying to make some sense of this horrible withdrawal I am experiencing (have been using hydrocodone for about 18 months), I had the great fortune of stumbling upon this site.  You all are truly an answered prayer for me.  How wonderful to realize that I'm not alone.  I've just started tapering off of the Vicodin and was really worried when I read about the severity of the withdrawal symptoms, but I have a renewed sense of resolve to get through this - thanks to all of you.  Thank you again and blessings to each of you.
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Yes, that pharmacy is totally reliable. It takes about 3-4 weeks for the Temgesic to arrive via airmail, but they will (for an extra charge) send it int'l fedex depending on what state you live in.
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JR.
Welcome to the forum and I do mean that you are welcome.

I don't think that there are any experts here only those willing to share and be helped as well. If you don't think that you have anything to offer, then you're selling yourself short. As someone had so eloquently put it in another thread, "just flop it it out there and let us digest it." or words to that effect. You would be amazed at who may be sitting in the shadows with the same circumstances as you and does'nt have the courage to step forward yet. We are here for you. Thank you for your coming aboard. Now lay it on us. Tell us about yourself and what brought you here. Again, WELCOME.

In His Love, JR.~
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JR.
Well, I have'nt spoken to you in a while and I thought that either you or I fell off of the earth. I am so glad that you posted that last post about the online orders from foreign pharmacies. I often wondered what happened with those orders.
Just another reason to keep coming back to this forum.

When I was using another sight back at the end of 2001 that is now cancelled, I would see more posts about how to get online drugs, large supplies, and less trying to help others get through the horrors of addiction. Thank you again for sharing that info. Thank you for your continued input to everyone here seeking answers to questions. It does'nt take an expert to be here on the forum, only someone willing to share out of compassion and that is what it is, and experience. I thank God for you and all others out there on the forum.

In His Love, JR.~
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Hi to everyone:

I asked the question starting the thread dealing with valium and vicodin.  This thread dealing with tyro is obviuosly related and very interesting for all of us.

Question:  once off the vicodin,  will tyro react poorly with valium (as I intend to use the valium once of the vics and then "wean" off the valium), or should I not use the tyro with the valium inasmuch it may have a negative interaction?

I'm new at this but all of you are so great in supporting each other.  I'm just so new at these problems that I (unfortunately) don't feel adequate or qualified to help you.

I really wish I could as so many of you are truly heros trying to help each other in addition to yourselves?

Whadda you think????????????????????????
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GOD
~~~~~This is for all of you who have ordered or will try to order any Meds through the internet.~~~~~

I thought I had it made when I ordered my first 200 tabs of ULTRAM through an online seller. I then decided that I didn't need to go "Doctor shopping" anymore, so I was going to set up a schedule of drug deliveries to keep me supplied and never have to worry about running short again. Ha HA HA!!!

What seems to good to be true ALWAYS is. After ordering the ULTRAM the first time, my next order was for a months supply of SOMA, ULTRAM and TEMGESIC. Unfortunately that was after Sept. 11th. Now, US Customs is really checking what is coming into this country (USA). My second order was siezed by US Customs, I got a nasty letter from them informing me that I was now on thier "List", and if I ever got another shipment, prosecution would follow. Even though these drugs are Legal in the US, the drugs that you order online are foreign manufactured and importation is ILLEGAL. unless you are a legitimate doctor or drug researcher at a university level, ALL imported drugs are now subject to seizure. EVEN TYLENOL!!

So, I'm out about $500.00~~ live and learn. I am kind of glad that the order did get seized because if I had gotten it, it (the drug use)would have ballooned out of control!!

Trust me, It IS NOT WORTH IT!
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I WAS reading the pos about orderinf Temgesic over the internet thru healthcarepharm.com--please let me know if you have ever,or know someone who has ever tryed this and do you recive the meds
all of the time and how long does it take?
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Day 7 and detox is too easy with Bupernex, I have been cuting down on the amps every day( like you recomended) and taking the Thomas recomended vitamins l-tyrosine /b6 and multi. I'm still scared what will happen when I have to take that 1st day with NO Bup!
TO MANY bad memories from prev dtox's. This will be my last.
Let me know how it goes on Sunday. The last time I was soooo
depressed for so long, I believe that was the reason I started taking meds again.I'm glad I can taper off slow with the Bup and hope it makes it easier to deal with mentaly.
Witchywoman and the rest of you who are totaly clean and sober-- I think you are the bravest,strongest people in the world, and I hope to be one of you soon. I did quit nicotine 5 years ago, so
I guess thats something. Bless you all, your my support, goodnight.
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I wish that I had something to offer in terms of support.  But I really dont.  So, mostly I am posting to say thank you for having the courage to share so candidly.  

For me, that is a very scary thing to do.  I am so afraid of losing the few friends that I have made, being ridiculed or being on the receiving end of humor or sarcasm that is hurtful.  By not taking the chance, there is little opportunity to be the recipient of support.  But when I see someone who I respect and admire (like you) reaching out, I feel closer to taking the risk.  

With Warm Regards,
littleguy
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Thank you everyone for being such great ppl!You all have made me feel that I am not alone.I was clean 6 weeks in sept.I thought I would never go back to full time using again well I WAS WRONG!One taste and it's all over except this time it's really hard.This time the person i used to buy my oxy's off of introduced me to the world of Fetanyl.Wow it was great but it ALL catches up to you.Sunday was my last taste of it and it is thursday and i'm still suffering pretty badly.You have all opened my eyes to different treatments i would like to look into the buprenex thing.I'm not sure my doc will go for it, they know of my addiction history and won't even prescribe xanax.They also don't know I have relapsed,YET.Well thank you for listening to me i appreciate it and please keep me in your prayers.I have so much to lose and if anyone found out i was using again they would all disown me unfortunately my family is NOT supportive at all.  Have a clean day!
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I'd like to meet you one day, Kip.

If God forbid I should ever again be in a foxhole, you're the kind of guy I would want to be in there with me.

Which in a way is kind of where we're at right now -- fighting the "war on drugs" from the godamn trenches.

Take care of yourself, Kip (or is it Skipper?). You've definitely had a run of bad luck, haven't you? But I feel like something good should be coming your way soon.
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