It tends to be different for everyone but it has been 35 days so I am betting things will be getting better very soon .Are you taking any supplements and exercising because both can help your body heal .Better days are coming .:)
3 months///90 days is usually the turning point for energy..hence AAs saying 90 meetings in 90 days..this is the time the brain takes to heal enuf to keep us from relapse..we need constant support and almost daily meetings to keep us moving forward...never taking a step backwards..if we do only to see why we dont wanna go back there...the 90 day mark is where energy levels turn for the better..and happiness is felt again more frequently..a sense of joy///then we know we r there..gotta make it 90 days...let that be ur goal...use meetings to keep u strong and exercise to release those much needed endorphins trapped inside our brains...read up on the aminos in the health pages...turn this into a science and learn every bit and peice of info u can to make this better for u...the book "End Your Addiction Now' is a great read to understand where our neurotransmitters are at right now..and how we have to heal them..good luck
Yeah I cant stress enough how much excercise can do for you, especially at the point where you are. I know its hard to get the motivation going but even a daily walk in the morning can dramatically change your frame of mind. I was really struggling with energy when I was laying around in bed all day, but the more I got up and did anything the more energy I got and the better I felt. Ive been off sub since Oct.20, I didnt hardly move for the first 2-3wks and I was really depressed all the time. When I finally started forcing myself to atleast go for a walk or two, just the getting out of the house lifted my spirits. I was on sub for 18wks, for me between about day 30-40 was the turning point where I really started to feel good about the situation, my motivation and drive was back. I was never a person to work out, my idea of a work out was playing golf, but since about Dec.1 I started riding bikes for some cardio, some light, high repitition free weights, along with a healthy diet Ive lost 30lbs. I forgot to mention that I take B6, l-tyrosine, multi-vitamin and some glucosamine chrondointin for my joints. In the end were all different but time really does heal, remain positive and patient with yourself and you really should start improving here soon. Im not sure if your taking any sleeping aid but I still take melatonin every night to help with sleep. As you can see my key for a speedy recovery has been excercise, its hard to get into a routine but it was the best thing Ive ever done. Congrats on making to day 35, I know its not easy, so keep on working, let us know how things go. Good luck with everything, Take Care!
Hey Sub09, Keep a strong head and positive outlook and you're already better. Most sources say it is only a 5-day withdrawal, but I don't believe it. I recommend fruits and no Fast-Food (cuz that makes ppl sick and feel icky) and forcing yourself to be happy. Maintain positive, and positive and happiness will follow. Honestly, I can't vision anything but better after 35 days, I am sure better will come quickly. Your digestive system probably had lots of garbage to dump out (mine does), and is re-programming itself to no be sedated all the time. Subs relax everything so your body just needs time to re-boot and re-program, 35-60 days tops I guerantee you! Most of "them" say NA meetings but I am not a meetings person myself so I wouldn't place my faith in NA. Even if you're in a shi* mood in the morning (like me) when you take a shower say "I am thankful for... (any 3 things everyday multiple x's if u like)" and the world will appear different. You can get a Back Ache from thinking you have a back ache, ppl get 95+/-4% of disease from within. I highly recommend watching the Secret! It is a serious must, I promise it will change your life. But anyhow, Congrats on 35 days! Wow; You are great inspiration to alot of us. You are actually doing what "we" all talk about. Write me if you don't mind, cuz I am genuinely curious to know what happens on day 36,37,38 and so on.
~Thank you for your inspiration and stay strong, Pj 0lson~
Thank you so much for your support guys.
To: Pjolson, I was thinking about taking melotonin but Im afraid I might get addicted to that and won't be able to sleep if I stopped taking that. But I will keep everyone informed about my recovery at home. It is really hard to even get on my treadmill, but I did do 15 mins on it. So if I have 26 more days to recover that would be great hope. I want to be able to get back to work. So is anyone getting off SUBOXONE?
I am on day 17 off the sub. I was on it for 2 1/2 years. Some days are better than the last but today is not one of them. I have had the chills for 17 days, i dont sleep at night and i feel like i am losing my mind. i so badly want to go back on the subs but i never want to go through this again. i just cant stop crying. I want my life back....i thought i had it back on the subs but like the last year i started falling asleep while driving and **** and was always exhausted. My body was all f-ed up like when i was using. i just want to feel normal. i dont know how much longer i can take this....
Do yall think its harder to come off of Sub than Codone? I have been using off and on for 4 years. I onlt took 5 mg at a time adn the most was 40mg a day. I get discouraged when I read 90 days until you feel normal b/c I am starting a new career soon and dont have 90 days. With that said, I sleep pretty good, wake up with energy but have no motivation to do work. I can get in a car and ride around, I can walk on treadmill but doing work just sounds like such a task. I havent taken any codone since Sat Feb 23rd and feeling good except for lack of motivation, achiness some stomach issues and ups and downs with depressiona nd happiness. Its weird one second I am happy the next I am down its like my body is trying to figure out the right amount of endorphins to release. I am truly hoping it will not take 90 days to feel normal. Regardless I have to do it so dont worry there just wanting for inforrmation.
Michelle and everyone else suffering through sub withdrawal - Please hang in there. You have come so far with this. I completely understand what you are going through - I am 6 months off suboxone. I took them for a little over 2 1/2 years also. Right now Michelle, you are really feeling the effects of the mental stuff that happens to *some* of us during sub detox. I had it bad too - depression, anxiety, feeling like your losing your mind. Trust me: YOUR NOT. This has been reported by many during sub withdrawal (not all though). I sent a note to a MedHelp friend who was helping me through my sub withdrawal (ochooked) - he isnt on much anymore but anyway my note said "OC - do you know the true meaning of insanity: Day 21 and still covered in goosebumps and having the chills-I think Im losing my mind." But in being on this site and talking to so many great people, I realized it was just a symptom of the withdrawal. Its really a long detox process for many. Please know, no matter how your mind tries to convince you otherwise, that it will get better. I can attest to that. 6 months post suboxone and I feel better than I have in many years. I am healthy, happy, not depressed and not anxious. It took a LONG LONG time to feel this way and I really reached a point where I felt it would never ever get better, but I promise it does. Hang in there and stay busy. It seems the busier and more active I was the less it effected me. Take care and well wishes to everyone..
Do you mean hydrocodone? oxycodone? I've detoxed off of both, as well as Oxycontin, and for me, *in my opinion only* Suboxone was a thousand times harder to detox from.
Both I would take Lortabs, Vicodin, Percocet or Oxycodone whatever I could find. Buying off the street it was different each time. Some encouragment for me. Thanks for your opinion,.
Its a really controversial topic. From what I've gathered -used during a short detox from oxy, hydro (whatever), sub can be a great tool. If you use a tiny amount to stave off the worst of withdrawal and then stop after a week or two, from what I have heard from others, that way can work. For those of us who were on for an extended period of time, for maintenance, it was extremely difficult to quit. The are definate pros and cons and everyone's experience is different. Its a very individual choice. If its just withdrawal your looking to avoid, then suboxone can be a slippery slope from helpful to drug of choice. Are you still using?
Also how come I never had the runny nose, or flu like symptons? Mine were hot/cold RLS, stomach, aches, sweats, depression, no energy etc...I am just hoping that I dont still have more coming my way. As I said I took last codone on Feb 23rd since then I took 5mg Methadone the following weekend Fri?Sat Am and felt like **** Sunday and little bit of Monday. So I really havent had any Codone in a week and a half.
Oh no I am not using. I was just a little discouraged about the 90 days AA motto. I am mentally prepared to quit these but I will have to have work motivation before then. Sleep comes and goes. Some nights I fall asleep early others I dont. The good news it is solid sleep. Last night I went to bed at 11 woke up at 3 (back was killing me and was starving laid back down at 345 and slept til 745
Thats great. Just hang tight. Stay away from the methadone (!!) (Im yelling out of caring lol)... You are 8 days off and that is great. Just give it time. There is no definate rule.. Everyone is different. You should be feeling better soon though for sure. Find some aftercare - meetings, therapy, whatever. I really believe (now) that figuring out why we use and confronting it is key in staying clean..
I think its compared to 'flu like symptoms' cause of the chills and body aches -- both of which are associated with a fever when you have the flu. I never had the flu as bad as withdrawal - but it can be a good comparison to someone who has mild to moderate withdrawal. Now sneezing - I sneezed all day for months. Again 8 days - Congrats. Just hang in there.. 8 will turn into 10, 10 into 20 and before you know it you will be a month in and feeling a LOT better.. Stay busy, eat healthy, and exercise. I find the busier I am in life, the less I am thinking about usiing. Take care!
I think the 90 meetings in 90 days has a lot to do with the MENTAL/CRAVING part of addiction. Once we stop obsessing over how miserable and sick we feel and w/drawal wears off, then the cravings, etc come in... lots of us can be lulled into romanticizing the addiction "I can use just once" "It really wasn't that bad" and lots of us just cannot overcome the cravings..this is why I think 90 meetings in 90 days can be really useful.. lets face it many of us think once we feel better that its over and we beat it.. just to relapse in a few weeks.
TO TRUE. My best friends says I think about it to much. He believe I may believe somewhat physical dependent but not an addict. I would never take more than a tab 5 at once b/c I would feel like I am wasting money then. He said my problem is I have nothing to occupy my time. I work in sales and I am my own boss. I am in a field where you might work hard for a day then maybe 1 hour a day the rest of the week. My office is my home and in my office is the root of this evil. VIDEO GAME SYSTEMS. I loved to take a pill and play games. That was it. I did that for four years off and on. My friends became so upset b/c I never wnated to go out, I said its cheaper and safer for me to say in and play games. That is why I want to make this new career if I choose to take the offer my addiction. The problem is I have no motivation to work. I really hope that I am just not a lazy person in general or that years of sitting around doing nothing made me lazy. With thtat said I workout, golf, have several sources of income and took on several projects so my mother believes I am not lazy because of those reasons, but I cant explain it right now everything like such a task, Besides that I am pretty much good to go. To talk on the phones its sometimes hard to be as friendly and personal as I was using but I truly believe I have always had the gift of gab since I have always been popular. Once my motivation is back I will once again enjoy speaking with people.
I know this forum is like 2 yrs old but some of you still may be around. I took suboxone for around 2 1/2 yrs and jumped off at 16 mg (per day). I didn't feel my doctor was cutting my down as she should and I just had this overwhelming feeling of not wanting to be dependent on medication anymore. Anyways, it's been 34 days and still feeling like crap (insomnia, sweaty palms and pits, lack of energy, cold chills, depression, anxiety, nausea). I have heard that the duration of withdrawal can depend on how long one used the medicine. My question is, did you taper? Also, exactly how long did your withdrawal symptoms last? I feel like this is lasting forever!! I know that it will get better and I will normal again I would just like to know when?? I will fight this demon, I will keep strong.
I was only on sub for 15 days. I tapered off as soon as I could. The out patient program I was in made you commit to 1 year of outside the group meetings several times a week.
I was homeless for the most part, and could not make it 40 miles round trip. I did get some sleep aid from my doctor. IF you do not abuse it and take only as directed, you can use it for 2 weeks or so, and then taper off. You will not get hooked on Melatonin.
I try to remember that "Energy make Energy" if you walk one block a day, then add another block every Monday, you will be walking, laughing, and smiling before you know it.
I've been all kinds of Pain Pills for four years then switched to suboxone for 2 1/2 years. I tapered down to 2mg a day sometimes less. I didn't know how addicting it can be cause docters don't know much about it cause they dont take the meds, but anyway today is a week and I'm not feeling real bad just low energy, but today I got most energy since been off subs, I couldn't tell if I was sick, sick or going through withdrawal cause past week I've sneezed alot and runny nose, and like a sore throat. I wanted to know if anybody else like symptoms. Oh yeah sleeps *****, last night I finally got somewhat good sleep probably cause I was so tired. I am not really depressed much. I am just happy I'm getting off these lil devils. Thanks to all the postings there are motivational. I'm looking forward to day thirty. I'm so surprised I've doing it.
Hang in there. It's been 39 days today and w/d are still there (insomnia, hot flashes at night, cold chills, tingles, anxiety, diarreah, sneezing, fatigue). I sneeze throughout the entire day. It's not as bad as it was though, couldn't stop sneezing for the longest time. Weird huh? I got the whole soar throat thing too. Had it bad, right tonsil was so swollen you could heard it in my voice and see the lump on my neck. That get better in a short period of time. The w/d are pretty mild now. I have heard it can last up to 70 days, but everyone is different. My sisters symptoms lasted 2 weeks. She was on suboxone for about 6 months and was down to taking 2 mg. a day. Wish I would of tapered but it is what it is. Just stay strong this wont last forever. It is a long process but it does get better. Eventually we will be back to our normal selves again, feeling amazing. I just asked God to make sure I remember this b/c I NEVER want to experience this s*** again!! God Bless!!
determined, you are pulling up old posts from years ago and the members you are talking to are not currently active.. If you go to the top of this page you will see a green Post A Question button, click on that and follow the instructions. You can start your own post and that way we can get to know you. If you need help, let someone know. Hope to see you in the forum.
Yeah I noticed they were old. I'm new and I didn't know much about how things work here. I did post a question titled suboxone withdrawal. I have been wondering why I haven't found any up to date forums lol.
Thanks for the motivation. Yeah today is day 12. I feel like I am almost done with detox. I just sneeze here and there and some energy but not alot, diarreah, cold chills. My sleep is some what good eight hours a night. Very minor detox lately. My detox isn't as bad, most likely cause I tapered down to 2 mg thank god. I am gonna do drug classes soon and I see a counslor. You need support coming off this crap. I have to stay busy more so than not to stay clean. I take multi-vitamins, b- complex, lysene, and protein shakes. They say exercising is great and can get you moving and out of detox/withdrawal quicker. And most important a belief in your higher power and if so bible is great. One day at a time.
whats up beautiful people all your words are blessings i know we all feel alone at times but everyone has someone who cares that your going through it and im just as clueless as to when this ends but it feel it will in a week or 2......im on day 5 when i get through the night and my withdraawels come in waves posotive energy helps me alot and smoking some herb before i go to try to sleep which has been nott too too good last night i actually got lakr 5 hours of sleep maybe i do alot of hyper extending stretches just cause my insides feel biggger then my outsides but i knowwe will all be better before we know it life is such a blessing lets get it back and live life how we really want to not dependent on a chemmical made by liarzzzzz