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Hydro withdrawals and tramadol
I am a new member and in day 2 of quitting hydro. I am a 42 year old male in Texas that was injured in a water skiing accident about 5 years ago. Dr said x-rays revealed no permanent damage from accident but revealed 3 disks in my neck C-5, C-6, and C-7. he compared it Degenerative disks like arthritus and put me on an anti-inflamatory and 60 count 5/500 hydro monthly with 2 refills. Up until then I hadn't been to a Dr in 10 years.
I have been reading these forums and I guess I have an addictive nature, Never drank much because both parents are alcoholics.
I found my vice. What's wrong? A Dr gave them to me. Over the next year and half started 7.5/500 60 ct. then 7.5 90 count. I always ranout early. Finally I am on 10/325 90 count. Soon with records I am on the internet getting another bottle each month of 90/325 120 count. I don't know how many I was taking. I didn't count but I ws still running out.
My life had become miserable. I play guitar, pretty good golfer, single and used to go out a lot. On the pills I quit playing golf just sat at home stoned watching TV, Still went to the gym 3 times a week. Couldn't wait to get in a good workout so I could pop a couple and veg out. What's wierd is when I started using I wanted to go out and mingle and enjoy the buzz but there was no buzz anymore. Just pop a pill to feel normal and not go into withdrawals.
I don't do to social events and women flirt and I could care less anymore. I want my life back.
Two weeks ago with a vacation coming I decided to quit.
I am an all out guy and tapering had failed. However the last week I tapered one pill a day for about 10 days. That was pure hell.
I decided to quit Sunday ( The Lords Day ) so I ate the rest on Saturday
I have followed somewhat the Thomas recipe but I don't understand this pain I have never felt all the way down into my bone marrow, all joints and muscles, headaches, stomach cramps. Tonight I am nearing the end of day 2. I am shaking so bad I don't know if I'll ever get this typed out. They say day 3 is the worst. I can't imagine anything worse than the last 2 days. I did tell myself this morning I had had a day of no pills for the first time in 5 years.
BIG QUESTION I have a bottle of 60 tramadol. How would it hurt me to take 2 or 3 tramadol on the worst days say like the next 2 days. I have valium, tons of vitamins. Are the headaches from not getting acetomenaphine my body has been used to. Take 3 Tylenol and it barely touches the headach.
Where is my energy. I used to work out 3 times a week and am in fairly good shape for 42 but today it was over 100 degrees this afternoon and I walked around the block to sweat and I barely made it home. I fell on the couch and took 15 minutes to get up. I drink smart water and gateraid with electrolytes, but I have no appetite. I have eaten some healthy type breakfast bars with my vitamins
Any advice at all would be so greatly appreciated. Please help me. I know I can't abuse drugs 5 years and expect to just have a bad weekend but this is unbearable. I will welcome all suggestions, notes of support, even comments of what an idiot you are. How long will this go on. I don't want to be the
Texanaddict
I have been reading these forums and I guess I have an addictive nature, Never drank much because both parents are alcoholics.
I found my vice. What's wrong? A Dr gave them to me. Over the next year and half started 7.5/500 60 ct. then 7.5 90 count. I always ranout early. Finally I am on 10/325 90 count. Soon with records I am on the internet getting another bottle each month of 90/325 120 count. I don't know how many I was taking. I didn't count but I ws still running out.
My life had become miserable. I play guitar, pretty good golfer, single and used to go out a lot. On the pills I quit playing golf just sat at home stoned watching TV, Still went to the gym 3 times a week. Couldn't wait to get in a good workout so I could pop a couple and veg out. What's wierd is when I started using I wanted to go out and mingle and enjoy the buzz but there was no buzz anymore. Just pop a pill to feel normal and not go into withdrawals.
I don't do to social events and women flirt and I could care less anymore. I want my life back.
Two weeks ago with a vacation coming I decided to quit.
I am an all out guy and tapering had failed. However the last week I tapered one pill a day for about 10 days. That was pure hell.
I decided to quit Sunday ( The Lords Day ) so I ate the rest on Saturday
I have followed somewhat the Thomas recipe but I don't understand this pain I have never felt all the way down into my bone marrow, all joints and muscles, headaches, stomach cramps. Tonight I am nearing the end of day 2. I am shaking so bad I don't know if I'll ever get this typed out. They say day 3 is the worst. I can't imagine anything worse than the last 2 days. I did tell myself this morning I had had a day of no pills for the first time in 5 years.
BIG QUESTION I have a bottle of 60 tramadol. How would it hurt me to take 2 or 3 tramadol on the worst days say like the next 2 days. I have valium, tons of vitamins. Are the headaches from not getting acetomenaphine my body has been used to. Take 3 Tylenol and it barely touches the headach.
Where is my energy. I used to work out 3 times a week and am in fairly good shape for 42 but today it was over 100 degrees this afternoon and I walked around the block to sweat and I barely made it home. I fell on the couch and took 15 minutes to get up. I drink smart water and gateraid with electrolytes, but I have no appetite. I have eaten some healthy type breakfast bars with my vitamins
Any advice at all would be so greatly appreciated. Please help me. I know I can't abuse drugs 5 years and expect to just have a bad weekend but this is unbearable. I will welcome all suggestions, notes of support, even comments of what an idiot you are. How long will this go on. I don't want to be the
Texanaddict
Hello dear friends....Your posts have helped keep me sane as I go thru this mess that I created for myself. I am on Day 3 of a hydro wd of 6 Hydro 10/325 that I started taking 8 years ago for a car accident. Recently, I found a procedure called prolotherapy that helped my knee and hip. My ah-ha moment was when I was taking pills and KNEW I was no longer in pain. I went to my doctor who prescribed Baclofen and a sleeping pill to aid in my wd. So far nothing seems to work, but I am slowly getting thru this. I am so impressed with all of you and the different stories that led you here and how willing you are all to help. Thank you, Thank you. I am up in the middle of the night cause the spasms and pain are still too much. Hot hot baths help alot. I am looking forward to each hour as one more down. Thanks again and best wishes to you all that we can all go on to lead normal happy lives.
I have been reading the above post and can empathize with all of you who are experiencing the nasty WD symptoms of Tram.My experience with opiates goes back over 3 decades.I have kicked this monsters *** many time and it isn't easy to say the least, but can be dome.This for me hopefully will be the last time I ever have to experience WD from Tram.Today is day 4 I think and I am not feeling well but maybe a little better than yesterday.Look just take it one day at a time and persevere, you will be ok I can promise you that.
To the fellow who lost his Dog, I am sorry ,I have lost many good Canine friends to and it hurts.When you get to feeling a little better think about gettimg a new Pup.
Well many blessing to you all and my prayers too.
Wolfgang
To the fellow who lost his Dog, I am sorry ,I have lost many good Canine friends to and it hurts.When you get to feeling a little better think about gettimg a new Pup.
Well many blessing to you all and my prayers too.
Wolfgang
I can relate with your story above texan. gotta kick out of it because I had the same experiences. I ve been a bone brain in the past thinking I am superman, and can do what ever I want......only to find out its another nightmare cold turkey story once again,again and again !!
when one does them in large doses for long periods of time, it takes quite a while to feel normal again. first 4-6 days are the worst,by far. I got into mixing methadone and norcos(allowed me to use much less of the norcs), soon to discover the methadone was EVEN WORSE, to go ct on !! took me about 2 weeks just to somewhat feel normal.
try some valarian root for sleep. it sure seems to help me sleep. avoid the other drugs that are going to lead to another nightmare.
when one does them in large doses for long periods of time, it takes quite a while to feel normal again. first 4-6 days are the worst,by far. I got into mixing methadone and norcos(allowed me to use much less of the norcs), soon to discover the methadone was EVEN WORSE, to go ct on !! took me about 2 weeks just to somewhat feel normal.
try some valarian root for sleep. it sure seems to help me sleep. avoid the other drugs that are going to lead to another nightmare.
Hey, thanks for the comments. I fell asleep last night and slept hard for about 7 hours.
I think my body was just exhausted and when I woke up I didn't have a headache. Also my first thought wasn't where is my pill bottle. I was still wearing my t-shirt and shorts with wallet and keys in pocket so exhausted. I thought maybe I'm coming out but after getting up those same old feelings hit me in the gut but maybe it's just in my head but maybe it wasn't as bad. There were a couple of days when I couldn't have told you what day it was. This girl I know from the condo who's going for brownie points
brought me over some kind of chicken dish and a salad ( she thinks I have a bad flu )
I am getting out to the store and the post office and the bank if I have enough energy.
A walk would be good if I can stomach that. I guess today starts day 5 but who's counting. I might rent a DVD. The only good things I've done is walk a little, take my vitamins, drinks lots of fluids with electolytes,put AWAY the tramadol bottle, and not taken any hydro. Thats a start. I appreciate you more than you will ever know as this forum has kept me going this week as there are so many much worse than I that I really hurt from some of the stories I have read. In a way this is my journal
Thanks to all for for the support, comments, and suggestions.
I think my body was just exhausted and when I woke up I didn't have a headache. Also my first thought wasn't where is my pill bottle. I was still wearing my t-shirt and shorts with wallet and keys in pocket so exhausted. I thought maybe I'm coming out but after getting up those same old feelings hit me in the gut but maybe it's just in my head but maybe it wasn't as bad. There were a couple of days when I couldn't have told you what day it was. This girl I know from the condo who's going for brownie points
brought me over some kind of chicken dish and a salad ( she thinks I have a bad flu )
I am getting out to the store and the post office and the bank if I have enough energy.
A walk would be good if I can stomach that. I guess today starts day 5 but who's counting. I might rent a DVD. The only good things I've done is walk a little, take my vitamins, drinks lots of fluids with electolytes,put AWAY the tramadol bottle, and not taken any hydro. Thats a start. I appreciate you more than you will ever know as this forum has kept me going this week as there are so many much worse than I that I really hurt from some of the stories I have read. In a way this is my journal
Thanks to all for for the support, comments, and suggestions.
Hi
I just wrote you a long note but it didn't send will try this.
Ye I my story is very much like yours but i was on Tram for 4 years..
I say 3 weeks and you will look back at your diary and say gee i was in a bad way..
6 weeks and you will have 1 bad day a week and have to remind yourself about that drug addiction you had
9 weeks and you will be doing exercise and your body will be responding to it nothing like it used to when you was on the drugs you will be sleeping lots better and life will be totally different and like i said if you still got pain then come up with another way of tackling it..
Sorry about your dog...They are the best...
distraction distraction distraction and plan your day...Walks movies music watch sport walk again........You know what i mean...
Ask anything i will try my best to help..
Your doing really well
this will pass
I just wrote you a long note but it didn't send will try this.
Ye I my story is very much like yours but i was on Tram for 4 years..
I say 3 weeks and you will look back at your diary and say gee i was in a bad way..
6 weeks and you will have 1 bad day a week and have to remind yourself about that drug addiction you had
9 weeks and you will be doing exercise and your body will be responding to it nothing like it used to when you was on the drugs you will be sleeping lots better and life will be totally different and like i said if you still got pain then come up with another way of tackling it..
Sorry about your dog...They are the best...
distraction distraction distraction and plan your day...Walks movies music watch sport walk again........You know what i mean...
Ask anything i will try my best to help..
Your doing really well
this will pass
Congrats on day 4. You will make it one day at a time. I too was in your shoes 22 days ago. This forum was one of the best things for me, I posted everyday for 2 weeks, and I am now much busier and I dont post as often. Keep yourself busy. Sorry for the loss of your dog, your story made me cry, the poor baby. I hope you start to turn around soon, everyone of us is different. It took me about 7 day physically, and I know the pain in your body feels like the worst thing ever! I had trouble with the anxiety, still do. Most importantly I feel and you should too, your head will be much clearer and free from the fuzzy feeling of the pills. Best of luck to you and keep us posted, I am proud of you that you took the step to become clean, and by the way sometimes feeling hormonal and crying is not all that bad:)
Hello, I just wanted to offer you another opinion although you are going to find that it it's likely the same story you've been hearing - THROW AWAY THOSE TRAMADOLS! I have a similar story to yours where a doctor (who herself turned out to be addicted to hydro) offered me more and more pills with each monthly visit. I have been addicted to vicodina dn gone through withdrawal many times, some of which was severe. However after a week the worst of it was over. I replaced the vicodin with tramadols which I believed were safe. They weren't. Two weeks passed and still I had only been sleeping 2-3 hours a night and I was only on 200-400mg a day! It didn't even make me high, I didn't realize that my body was addicted to it and I just felt better when taking it until of course I tried to stop. I am now stuck on 100mg a day trying desperately to slowly taper off.
This will pass, stick with it, you can do it, and just make sure you don't find a replacement drug the way I did. Tramadols are evil.
This will pass, stick with it, you can do it, and just make sure you don't find a replacement drug the way I did. Tramadols are evil.
Thanks so much for putting some perspective on this. I do agree. I just spent way to long studying on what to do and what to expect and map out my plan. That's just the personality in me. Today is day 4 and no difference. I wake every morning at my usual time ( force of habit ) and feel like I have the worst hangover of my life. It dawned on me that for 3 days I hadn't drank coffee. I'm a 3 cup a day for 15 years. I was having caffeine headaches. I made a small pot of coffee, drank with my granola bar breakfast, took 2 Tylenol and my vitamins and recovered my sanity much more quickly. Felt a little better and thought I really need to try to exercise so at 10 I put on my shoes and opened the door and it was raining. The irony in this is I live in dry West Texas where it rains in the summer about 2 times a month. It cleared off at noon and took myself for a walk.( read above my dog died ) made it for about 20 minutes and came home and collapsed but as I lay there exhausted I thought that was good.
I am a member of a gym and thought I need to go down there late since I can't sleep and walk the treadmill and sit in a jaccuzzi. I could have before but didn't feel I even had the strenght to walk to bathroom.
I hate to ask this question as you have pointed out everyone is different, but how do you tell when you have started turning the corner and what can I do to speed up the process such as foods to eat, activities I am capable of, or try to sleep more
I don't know anything other than day after day of agony.
I am a member of a gym and thought I need to go down there late since I can't sleep and walk the treadmill and sit in a jaccuzzi. I could have before but didn't feel I even had the strenght to walk to bathroom.
I hate to ask this question as you have pointed out everyone is different, but how do you tell when you have started turning the corner and what can I do to speed up the process such as foods to eat, activities I am capable of, or try to sleep more
I don't know anything other than day after day of agony.
Hi Texan I have to make a comment i have been reading all the posts on this ? you posted Maybe i missed a part but know 1's mentioned this EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT know 2 people are the same,You might take a certain drug for a week and it might help it might do nothing you might get addicted to it and be the worst choice ever....
I read about you crying that's all normal think about it your tired havn't slept properly for days your in pain all these things so pat yourself on the back and well done..
This is my thoughts i was where you are about 6 or 7 weeks ago now i look back i still can feel all the feelings you have and there pretty scary ..But i am feeling pretty good these days..
When people say this day or that day will be the worst What do you think ? You believe them ...Not the case EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.. But sometimes they can be correct my point is don't lay there and think oh know tmrw is day 5 or 6 and people say this is the worst day cause if you think like that there's a big chance it will be the worst day...
Distract yourself Listen to music walk around the block... Take your dog for a walk if you don't have 1 find someone who needs there dogs walked serious it will distract you..
Maybe go get yourself a pup (Only if your lifestyle suits and your ready to take all the duties that a dogs requires of course)...Would be a great help...My dog got to have some of the best long walks of his life and I am still walking him everynight before bed for 45 mins ..
Your in this and it's not going to kill you it will all pass... Ask anyone ,did going through this make them a stronger person...From my point of view the answer is yes..
It's crazy i just wouldn't of believed how bad the first couple of weeks are but I tell you now you will get better .
I didn't take anything apart from Magnesuim which is good for the nervous system ..I did go and get some stuff to help me sleep but just took it back i was too scared i would get dependent on another drug...
Hot baths and distraction is the key....I couldn't even lay still to watch telly for the first 5 days but remember for you this time next week you could be back to how you felt before your accident you had..Who knows.
Anyway enough form me send me a message if you want and remember life will be better without the drugs come up with a new plan for pain...If you have too
well done TEXAN
I read about you crying that's all normal think about it your tired havn't slept properly for days your in pain all these things so pat yourself on the back and well done..
This is my thoughts i was where you are about 6 or 7 weeks ago now i look back i still can feel all the feelings you have and there pretty scary ..But i am feeling pretty good these days..
When people say this day or that day will be the worst What do you think ? You believe them ...Not the case EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.. But sometimes they can be correct my point is don't lay there and think oh know tmrw is day 5 or 6 and people say this is the worst day cause if you think like that there's a big chance it will be the worst day...
Distract yourself Listen to music walk around the block... Take your dog for a walk if you don't have 1 find someone who needs there dogs walked serious it will distract you..
Maybe go get yourself a pup (Only if your lifestyle suits and your ready to take all the duties that a dogs requires of course)...Would be a great help...My dog got to have some of the best long walks of his life and I am still walking him everynight before bed for 45 mins ..
Your in this and it's not going to kill you it will all pass... Ask anyone ,did going through this make them a stronger person...From my point of view the answer is yes..
It's crazy i just wouldn't of believed how bad the first couple of weeks are but I tell you now you will get better .
I didn't take anything apart from Magnesuim which is good for the nervous system ..I did go and get some stuff to help me sleep but just took it back i was too scared i would get dependent on another drug...
Hot baths and distraction is the key....I couldn't even lay still to watch telly for the first 5 days but remember for you this time next week you could be back to how you felt before your accident you had..Who knows.
Anyway enough form me send me a message if you want and remember life will be better without the drugs come up with a new plan for pain...If you have too
well done TEXAN
Day 4 was my worst day. Day 5 I felt markedly better physically and mentally. I knew that the opiates had pretty much left my body. I do remember day 10 as I recall being rather amazed at myself for actually making it thru detox. I began learning all I could abt. what others were saying about the "mental" part of recovery. Then it hit me that the craves would come and having me riding a mental roller coaster of wanting a pill and all the bagage that came with recovery. I never imagined that I would ever want to have an opiate again after 5 yrs of useing them and going through pure heck during detox.!!! I have been opiate free for over 4 mos. now and still crave at some lenghts at times and then it goes away. It is like a rollercoaster and I want off the darn thing!!! lol Still, it is better than the life I had useing them, even as a Chronic pain sufferer, I am glad I do not use. As long as I can remember how it was in the past, then perhaps it will help make me stay on the right path.
If you have any muscle relaxers then you might give them a try. The arthritis otc pain meds will help some if you don't have any relaxers.
Don't fret over the crying, at least you can still cry, I couldn't even do that cause I was so pissed at myself for getting so addicted that I would go through a detox just to be free from a darn opiate!!! I think if I cryed then I would never stop and then My family would have to call the padded wagon!
Best wishes to you on your journey
The dog story did make me want to cry tho, how sad. You know you don't have many companion-critters like that who will always be there for you! You will always miss him/her.
El
If you have any muscle relaxers then you might give them a try. The arthritis otc pain meds will help some if you don't have any relaxers.
Don't fret over the crying, at least you can still cry, I couldn't even do that cause I was so pissed at myself for getting so addicted that I would go through a detox just to be free from a darn opiate!!! I think if I cryed then I would never stop and then My family would have to call the padded wagon!
Best wishes to you on your journey
The dog story did make me want to cry tho, how sad. You know you don't have many companion-critters like that who will always be there for you! You will always miss him/her.
El
Thanks, tommorrow I will try to get some applesauce and soup. In April had full bloodwork up with liped panel, PSA, liver ect. Dr said everything looked good. So not worried right now. Now what does peak over 3 to 5 days mean. The last three have been pure agony .
Spongeboy, I usually do the same as you but I can sit still longer than that. It's just that sleep won't come till 3 to 5 AM and I'm awake at 9 feeling like I have a hangover.
Mornings are worst. Wake with headache. Diarreah also. feel need to go and sometimes nothing happens. If I had the strength I would push my bed closer to the bathroom door.
Positive note for us is for me for the first time in 5 years I have had 3 days of no narcotics. I keel telling myself that constantly.
Spongeboy, I usually do the same as you but I can sit still longer than that. It's just that sleep won't come till 3 to 5 AM and I'm awake at 9 feeling like I have a hangover.
Mornings are worst. Wake with headache. Diarreah also. feel need to go and sometimes nothing happens. If I had the strength I would push my bed closer to the bathroom door.
Positive note for us is for me for the first time in 5 years I have had 3 days of no narcotics. I keel telling myself that constantly.
I would recomend room temperature applesauce for both the nausea and runs. I urge you to seek out competent medical care for your liver enzymes to be checked, you were ingesting by your own account over 1,000mg above the daily max dose of apap!
You should slowly start to peak over the next 3-5 days and then feel markedly better, though your sleep may yet take a few weeks to come around, it will eventually you'll just have to be patient. Try to take a good hot bath before bed and only drink room temp fluids.......
You should slowly start to peak over the next 3-5 days and then feel markedly better, though your sleep may yet take a few weeks to come around, it will eventually you'll just have to be patient. Try to take a good hot bath before bed and only drink room temp fluids.......
I am a newbie and dont know about the liver cleansers. As i mentioned i am on day 3 also from hydro and i havent had headaches so i guess it differs from person to person. My worst time by far so far is nights. Cannot sleep and can hardly even sit still or lay in the bed for more than 5 or 10 minutes. Constantly having to get up and go sit in another place then repeat ad nauseum till maybe will get a couple hours total sleep (in 15-20 minute increments). Really sux. I have zero appetite but forced myself to eat some icecream today and it was not bad. I have diarreah but not real bad. Mainly, like u, i just feel real bad and am really starting to understand what i am up against. I am determined to fight through it. Hang in there and be strong. You can handle it. Take care.
I am taking the SAMe recommended by the thomas recipe. I think taking that and
tramadol could cause a reaction. Anybody know anything about these mood enhancers and liver cleansers like SAMe and L-Tyrosine. Are these products designed to make withdrawals easier or faster. My brother takes tramadol at least 5 days a week and I have warned him to read up on it but it has been going on 4 months. It's 5PM day 3 and today was pretty bad. didn't try to exercise. Didn't make it to the store.
Whats up with these darn headaches. Is it coffee withdrawels or the fact I'm not getting 4 to 5 thousand mg of acetaminophen my body is used to.
Do you people find mornings worst. Any answers or suggestions would be great. I hurt today so bad. In the morning I can't stand the TV on or bright lights until about noon.
Good news ate a can of tomato soup with crackers and kept it down
Does milk or ice cream calm the stomach nasueau
Sorry for all the questions. I just feel so bad and such a wimp
tramadol could cause a reaction. Anybody know anything about these mood enhancers and liver cleansers like SAMe and L-Tyrosine. Are these products designed to make withdrawals easier or faster. My brother takes tramadol at least 5 days a week and I have warned him to read up on it but it has been going on 4 months. It's 5PM day 3 and today was pretty bad. didn't try to exercise. Didn't make it to the store.
Whats up with these darn headaches. Is it coffee withdrawels or the fact I'm not getting 4 to 5 thousand mg of acetaminophen my body is used to.
Do you people find mornings worst. Any answers or suggestions would be great. I hurt today so bad. In the morning I can't stand the TV on or bright lights until about noon.
Good news ate a can of tomato soup with crackers and kept it down
Does milk or ice cream calm the stomach nasueau
Sorry for all the questions. I just feel so bad and such a wimp
I didn't say that you had to be an hard core addict to get addicted to tramadol, just accentuated that it's this subset that by far makes up the majority of those that become addicted to the substance! 3-5 days of controlled tramadol use is very unlikely to cause an addiction problem. We must remember though that some of the hardest withdrawl syndromes to endure come from the anti-depressant family of drugs! Combining this with a synthetic opioid is in my opinion a recipe for disaster. It's an intense double hit to the system, both physical and powerfully psychological and altogether painful to endure on your own. In the final analysis it's a poor drug for an addict to substitute without professional intervention, yet it is quite effective at combatting opiate withdrawl syndrome.
You dont have to be a hardcore addict to get addicted to tramadol not even close .We have had many here try the take the tram to get off hydro or oxy and end up with an addiction to tram .
Tramadol is an excellent way off of the hydros if you do it right, you're probably over the hump so I'd say stay away. If you take them for only three to four days however there is little to fear from it. The idea is not to take 2-3 at a time though, the idea is to use the lowest possible dose to ease your withdrawl syndrome and thats usually half of a 50mg tram three times a day for the first two-days then go down to one and then one half.
Tramadol is a partial angonist, if you take it to soon after most any other narcotic that you're body is addicted to it can spell misery. Those that have become addicted to tramadol are usually hardcore addicts, it is a fully synthetic opioid but it's action at the mu-agonist area is extremely mild, it's the anti-depressive qualities of the substance that has created the real havoc with those that have abused it, with the abuser often confusing this effect for an opiate kick, it's not! It's mucking with your serotonin levels and for this reason it is an evil mechanism to fight pain with in my professional opinion as it's acting in ways your physician most likely does not understand.
Tramadol is seeing much more action in detox environments as an aid in combatting withdrawl syndrome, from powerful narcotics, but if you're an addict the real question is can you trust yourself to follow the program in using it?
Tramadol is a partial angonist, if you take it to soon after most any other narcotic that you're body is addicted to it can spell misery. Those that have become addicted to tramadol are usually hardcore addicts, it is a fully synthetic opioid but it's action at the mu-agonist area is extremely mild, it's the anti-depressive qualities of the substance that has created the real havoc with those that have abused it, with the abuser often confusing this effect for an opiate kick, it's not! It's mucking with your serotonin levels and for this reason it is an evil mechanism to fight pain with in my professional opinion as it's acting in ways your physician most likely does not understand.
Tramadol is seeing much more action in detox environments as an aid in combatting withdrawl syndrome, from powerful narcotics, but if you're an addict the real question is can you trust yourself to follow the program in using it?
WOW I just woke up from 4 hours sleep. So today is the dreaded day 3. What the hell else can this throw at me that makes it worse than the last 2 miserable days of my life.
I laid in the bathtub at midnight and every bone in my body ached.
I must be developing female hormones because I cried and then I prayed( I'm not real religousbut this may change) , Just about the time I thought I had pulled myself together I thought of the Border Collie Daisy I owned for 12 years who had cogestive heart failure. One Saturday she was panting so hard I called the vet and he said her heart is just trying to pump enough blood to reach her whole bodyand she can't walk. I held her for 5 hours as she panted and looked up at me as if to say I'm sorry Dad. I layed her down in her bed and got the room real dark and cool and petted her and told her she was a good girl and it was OK to go now until finally she took 5 short breaths and all 4 legs went stiff and then she was gone, She was a dog who would come to me at the snap of my fingers and she could hear someone walk past my house. I thought of her and cried for 20 more minutes until I thought I can't stand this anymore. I've got to get out of this tub before I grow breasts.
I'm sorry to bore everyone. I did want to ask Ella what is trazone and I think clonidine is just blood pressure meds and I have been checking and are still around normal
Well afraid to take another bath but need to to get some melatonin and benadryl .
Mr Bacon I will get some fruit and milk and try your smoothies
Thanks to all and as I start day 3. My first thought when I woke up was to call the Dr office to see if I can get an early refill without coming in because I have the flu and thought your a real piece of work to give up like that after 2 days. Be a man.
Are hormones part of this and thanks to all who reply and give me support and what to expect on day 3 and 4.
I laid in the bathtub at midnight and every bone in my body ached.
I must be developing female hormones because I cried and then I prayed( I'm not real religousbut this may change) , Just about the time I thought I had pulled myself together I thought of the Border Collie Daisy I owned for 12 years who had cogestive heart failure. One Saturday she was panting so hard I called the vet and he said her heart is just trying to pump enough blood to reach her whole bodyand she can't walk. I held her for 5 hours as she panted and looked up at me as if to say I'm sorry Dad. I layed her down in her bed and got the room real dark and cool and petted her and told her she was a good girl and it was OK to go now until finally she took 5 short breaths and all 4 legs went stiff and then she was gone, She was a dog who would come to me at the snap of my fingers and she could hear someone walk past my house. I thought of her and cried for 20 more minutes until I thought I can't stand this anymore. I've got to get out of this tub before I grow breasts.
I'm sorry to bore everyone. I did want to ask Ella what is trazone and I think clonidine is just blood pressure meds and I have been checking and are still around normal
Well afraid to take another bath but need to to get some melatonin and benadryl .
Mr Bacon I will get some fruit and milk and try your smoothies
Thanks to all and as I start day 3. My first thought when I woke up was to call the Dr office to see if I can get an early refill without coming in because I have the flu and thought your a real piece of work to give up like that after 2 days. Be a man.
Are hormones part of this and thanks to all who reply and give me support and what to expect on day 3 and 4.
I couldn't get addicted to tramadol if I tried -- but it seems to make the cravings worse, so lean on the valium and try some blender thingies: soy milk, berries, lots of bananas in there, throw ice cubes in or use frozen berries ...
Melatonin is great stuff for sleeping -- you can take it with the Valium, 'cause you might get lucky and sleep a lot of this off. Take nutritional supplements, too -- at least multi's, B's and aminos. Don't forget to throw protein powder and tofu (flavored) into the smoothie things. Protein!
Melatonin is great stuff for sleeping -- you can take it with the Valium, 'cause you might get lucky and sleep a lot of this off. Take nutritional supplements, too -- at least multi's, B's and aminos. Don't forget to throw protein powder and tofu (flavored) into the smoothie things. Protein!
No tramadol, it's as bad or worse than the hydros. You are abt. half way to being through with all this so hang on!! Sometimes day 4 is the hardest day. I had got one of my Dr.s to prescribe clonidine and I had a few tranzene to help me through detox. It really did help keep me in my skin during detox!! You will need to use the Immodium prob. and it has an ingredient in it that helps with the receptors in the stomach. Take the benadryl to help with sleep and perhaps melatonin. If you are taking an antidepressant then you maynot should take the melatonin or the 5-htp. I read that perhaps it isn't a good thing to do that. The energy is the last thing to come back but it is worse during detox along with depression (for some). I know you are feeling really rough right now, you will feel better, it takes time, perhaps after tomorrow you will find you feel better, for me it was day 5 that I knew I was gona be okay. Everyone is different. Read more info abt. the Tram and you will find that people on here are enduring hell with trying to get off that "nonaddictive" stuff!!
Best wishes
Ella
Best wishes
Ella
Thank you for your comments. It means a lot that someone even cared to reply.
I know in my heart that was the answer. I was looking for an easier way out but the next few days are going to be bad. Food made me nasous, but I'll try to eat something.
I just knew trading one drug for another wasn't smart but I have read of people using tramadol to either taper or to help get off the hydro for just a short time
Thanks for your time
I know in my heart that was the answer. I was looking for an easier way out but the next few days are going to be bad. Food made me nasous, but I'll try to eat something.
I just knew trading one drug for another wasn't smart but I have read of people using tramadol to either taper or to help get off the hydro for just a short time
Thanks for your time
I would stay as far way from tramadol as you can many of us here are addicted to it .It is hell to WD from its kind of like going from the frying pan into the fire . Hang in there we will be here to help.
Hi and Welcome,
I am so sorry you are going through this and I would love to tell you it will be okay tomorrow but that would be a lie. It will get worse before It gets better. It will take a week for you to feel some assemblance of normal. You have been abusing the meds for a long time and your body, and mind, are fighting you now.
Please do not touch the Tramadol. They are addicting as well and you will find yourself right back on the merry-go-round. Please stick it out and I promise you that the light at the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train. You will have your life back in a short time.
Stick with the thomas Recipe as best you can. It does help. Try and exercise, if only short walks. Take hot, hot baths ... push fluids and remember to eat something, if only soup. You don't want to get sick on top of the withdrawal.
Hang around hun, just talking will help and keep your mind occupied. Hope to see you stick around.
I am so sorry you are going through this and I would love to tell you it will be okay tomorrow but that would be a lie. It will get worse before It gets better. It will take a week for you to feel some assemblance of normal. You have been abusing the meds for a long time and your body, and mind, are fighting you now.
Please do not touch the Tramadol. They are addicting as well and you will find yourself right back on the merry-go-round. Please stick it out and I promise you that the light at the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train. You will have your life back in a short time.
Stick with the thomas Recipe as best you can. It does help. Try and exercise, if only short walks. Take hot, hot baths ... push fluids and remember to eat something, if only soup. You don't want to get sick on top of the withdrawal.
Hang around hun, just talking will help and keep your mind occupied. Hope to see you stick around.
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