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I am sick in mind and body!

I don't know how to think anymore.  I quit the methadone Sept. 15. I don't even know how many days that is.  I took 3 5 mg. a day.  The Dr. also gives me 180 Norco a month.  One mind says I don't need the Norco anymore.  I was taking it in 10 days until this month.  I gave it too my husband and it lasted 3 weeks, but this week I'm back to feeling the same withdrawals I did before.  The insomnia is the worse!  I know you warned me Gnarly, but I can't function.  I'm thinking that I'm going to need to stay on the Norco and just take it sparingly to keep going.  Next summer when I'm out of school, I can get off the Norco.  The other option is to keep going off NOrco every month, which is rediculous just thinking about.  I'm so confused.  I feel so bad.  I read my posts on here and they don't make sense.  I'm constantly wondering what other people are thinking about me.  Am I faking it good enough?  Can I go on?  
I don't know what to do.  I know this posts probably doesn't make sense.  I'm going for coffee.
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Tomorrows going to be your turnaround day, Just wait and see. Your getting there, stay strong!
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yes, thanks for the post, today has been even worse.  I feel like I've been run over by a truck.  It's 3 and I've been on the couch all day.  I did get up at 7 am, after laying in bed for hours and walked around the block, but I haven't been out of the house.  Back to work tomorrow.  
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HEY still messing with the norco.....hum well methadone takes a good 90 days to get out of your system so I dont doubt you when you say when you stop the norco the methadone withdrawals come back but after 90 days you should be able to kick and just have to deal with the norco withdrawals witch are not plesent but there a walk in the park compared to methadone you need to go back and countdays at 90 days make your move ..know your going to feel like hell for a few days with norco withdrawals but that should only last a week or so methadone in a monster to kick and for most 90days is the magic marker of geting well so give it a try if this is the way your going to do it myself take no narcotic ride out the storm but thats me anyway wish you luck God bless......Gnarly
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BTW, I am a christian and believe in God, but the last person I want to hear, "I should pray" from is my Doctors assist unless she is sitting in the seat next to me in church, That alone would unnerve me. Maybe it's just me??????
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I agree with crazin. It seems the norco is most likely the culprit here. I also FULLY understand your hesitation to attend meetings in your small town. I have the same set up. I did finally start going to ALANON (blak, blak...chicken I know), but it was a start. I can't tell you how much it helps.Did you say your family knows? Are they suppotive?If you can quit the norco's for 6 days, you will be amazed at the difference you feel. On top of the physical part , mentally you will be so proud of yourself. As Sarah told me....there are no happy endings on these pills.She is right. Day by day my friend. ;)
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You mention the withdrawal from methadone coming back whenever you stop the norco. If you've been off the methadone since Sept 15, the methadone withdrawal would have been over by now. Some symptoms such as insomnia and depression may linger, but these are psychological and can continue for months.  What you are experiencing is withdrawal from the norco, and if you stopped cold turkey, the acute withdrawal would only last 3-5 days. As long as you continue taking the norco, your body will not be able to achieve homeostasis.

Someone mentioned the dose of clonidine as 1mg, which is incorrect. The normal dose for clonodine is .1mg (one-tenth of a mg) 3x daily.

Good luck!
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1831920 tn?1320857757
Are you eating well and staying hydrated?

Maybe you could try something natural for sleep like Melatonin or Alteril.

The extreme fatigue could take some time to go away.  Exercise will help.

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Also, I live in a small town and have lived here for 26 years.  I know almost everybody.  I'm afraid to walk into a NA meeting.  I'm afraid people won't be discreet.  Im afraid of how many people I will know.  It could cause me to lose my job as a teacher.  I have insurance for rehab, but the stigma would kill me.  I am going to a counselor every two weeks.  She actually told me I shouldn't try to get off the Norco right now.  But I guess I haven't been completely honest about the physical aspect of how I'm feeling.  I've only seen her about four times.  
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I have a pain management doctor, but he's not too sympathetic.  I've called twice about my symptoms,  with no result.  One day I was in tears, and the person I was talking too, said I should pray.  I believe in pray, but really?   I've been seeing him for four years, but I don't like him,  I'm afraid if I'm truthful, he will take me off of everything, and then I will really be in a pickle.  They have prescribed Klonodine, a benzo I think.  And I've taken two months of it.  I've been off of it for about two weeks.  I really don't want to get on that.  It scares me.  My symptoms are insomnia, foggy brain, extreme fatigue, not too much pain really, which I know is good, but like someone said, you get use to feeling a certain way and then bam.  I'm having to go to a new PCP because my doctor of 8 years is becoming a hospital doctor.  I've seen someone once, but no repore,, (spelling?) there at all.  In fact I will probably go to someone else eventually, when I feel like looking for a good doctor.  I just went to this guy so I could keep getting the scripts I'm taking, Wellbutrin, protonix, and the clonodine.  Thanks for the encouragement, I really need it today.  
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Can you talk to a Dr. for a clear plan? Is rehab an option for you. I do know that confused feeling and it suxz. You need a clear path from a professional. Stay on here, you are doing the best you can. xx
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I kno what you mean about wondering what people are thinking, I feel that way too. Im 10 wks pregnant and 9 days clean. I really thought I would be judged, but not at all. Everyone is here to help. You CAN do it!
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If you are having WD symptoms during the day you can break the Clonidine pill in half.  A regular dose is 1mg 3 times per day but I take as needed.

What symptoms are you still having?  You would be surprised people probably don't notice as much as you think.  You are just overly sensitive to everything.
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I have been on a Clonidine patch to help with hot flashes for a year or so and I got eczema so bad that I almost got infections.  Finally figured out the patch was the cause.  Took it off and the eczema went away.  I do have a script for 1mg , 3xs a day.  I can't seem to take them during the day because they make me too groggy.    I have been taking all three at night to try and help me sleep, but they don't help much.  I'm curious as to what dosage is normal when you take it for withdrawals?  I don't have high blood pressure and I'm always afraid I'll slow my blood down too much.  I just took my son out to a friends house in the country.  It took me two hours with a trip by walmart.  They wanted me to stay and visit, but I did not.  I probably should have stayed to get my mind off of this, but like I said earlier, I don't know how good I am faking it.  You know when I first went off the methadone, I shared with a few what I was going through.  I missed five days of work.  Now people just figure it's over, I'm done.  They don't ask.  Maybe I"m faking it better than I thought.  
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1831920 tn?1320857757
Can you talk to your dr about giving you Clonidine to help with the opiate withdrawals?  It is a blood pressure med that helps.  It could help you cut down your dose to something more manageable.
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Every time I get off the Norco, the withdrawal symptoms from the methadone come back.  I don't know how long they last.  Some people say a year, and I've delayed it by taking the Norco according to some.
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Why would you be working thru a fog for 7 more months?
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That seems to be my only option, other than working through a fog for 7 more months.  
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1831920 tn?1320857757
Can you cut down on your norco use so that your script lasts for an entire month?  that is great that your are off the methadone.
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