HI IM glad you had a good sub experience its not that way for everyone that does it coming off sub is a crap shoot I have seen many of our members jump off at 2mg and go threw mild withdrawals and like in your case where well in a short period of time for every one of you guys there is 3 that will littlerly take the stuff down to crumbs and go threw horable withdrawals for weeks its different for everybody.....I have watched a lot of people come off sub we have had many members on it some do good some do ok and then some really suffer.....I have never been able to figure out why its ez for some and so difficult for others
but thats just the way sub is....we never intend on scaring people with info here the post are from real people that have done it and post there experience im happy for you your one of the lucky ones dont forget to thank God for that good luck on your recovery hook up with some form of aftercare become pro/active in your recovery and you wont have to go threw it again good luck and God bless.....Gnarly
I just read your piece on suboxone, I am presuming they're the same as subbutex , right?
In which case your experience is uplifting, I've just posted a thing about subbies, and have been wondering if they're as bad as methadone or H
Anyway, well done to you
I want it to be uplifting, I don't want anyone to think its very hard or as struggling as the fear of not taking it. I know everyone is different, but after being on suboxone, and now recovered - that high you get from the suboxone you think? thats life.
Yes suboxone is different than subutex, however I've never taken subutex so I don't know much about it.
I do thank god, and I thank everyone who has helped me. I'm not saying its a cake-walk, but its a walk. The worst is the insomnia, but just remember your gonna sleep. and the sleep is gonna be good =). It's a mental battle. Fight it like you hate it. You should, I don't feel its a miracle drug rather its a drug that makes us "forget" the feeling of opiates.
-By best wishes to all of you, you can do it! Beat this B****!! Keep hope!!
@ekalrag : Methodone is much stronger, it's a much more painful withdrawal than subbies.
I've been buying my subs off the street for the last six years and I've never stepped foot in a suboxone dr. Office or a clinic in my life. I had a bad addiction to oxycottin and percocett before I was introduced to suboxone. A friend of mine went to his dr. And was put on subs and then he started helping me out with his extras. I knew from the start I'd found the miracle solution to my narcotic pain pill addiction. I absolutely fell in love with saboxone I was hooked from the start I would choose them over anything. People has told me I'm crazy to choose a sub over a oc but hey we all have our choice of high that we prefer. I'm convinced they effect me different than most people. I'm here to say that suboxone is just as hard to overcome as any narcotic pain pill out there. The withdraws may not be as intense but they last longer. The physical withdraws are actually the easiest it's the post withdraws that gets me every time. To this day I'm still battling these little bastards. That's why once again I've come to the Internet to try and find a solution to my addiction. I've almost come to the conclusion that they are unbeatable. I read these success stories and set and wonder why I'm not as strong minded. They have taken away things and people in my life that I love. I've even tried to get back on pain pills just to get away from the subs but I always go back to them. Subutex can be a close companion but suboxone is number one. I can't understand why dr. Would give out something that is as addictive as they are to fight a addictive substance. If anyone has any suggestions on a solution to my addiction please let me know. I'm to the point I take a suboxone strip and let it dissolve in a cap of water and then snort the sub water up my nose while I have one under my tounge. I tell myself in never doing it again but I always do.
Snorting sub water? Now that's new to me. Sounds like it needs to come off the market I'd that I'd doing people justice in their search for the high. Ugh I'm freaking disgusted at what this drug represents!
Wow! I'm on 4gm strips well 11/2 strips daily. Been on this stuff for almost 6 months. I'm sick of it. I'm always tired depressed, don't feel like leaving the house! Or the couch for that matter but due to circumstances and we wanted to get off this that's what I'm up against right now folks so if anybody has any advice for me as a female going through this I've read a lot of mail and counters with that but I'd like to see a female side! Thank you very much SubSucka
I agree with 98% of this post. I'll start with saying I was on Suboxone for 7 years. The 1st doctor didn't understand how powerful this medication is. I'm not blaming him negatively in anyway. I got to know him well and he thought he was helping me. I didn't educate myself or the 28mgs a day he put me on initially would have raised a huge red flag.
I moved and had to find another doctor. This is when my education began. This doctor informed me that I should never have been prescribed that much. He said 16mg/day maximum. I expresssed my interest in tapering and over the past year and a half he started me on a gentle taper.
I eventually got down to 3mgs a day and was busted for drinking a couple beers with my lunch at work and my job requested inpatient rehab and I accepted to save my job.
The facility I went to wouldn't allow me to continue Suboxone and tapered me over 5 days. This is where I disagree minimally. The withdrawal was intense and hellacious and I needed to be in a professional facility or I wouldn't have lasted. EVERYONE is different and I don't intend to discourage anyone who found some solace in this post, which again, I agree with almost all of it. 7 years.... 1 day after my last taper dose the withdrawals started and got progressively worse in a short amount of time. I'm not going to go into many details. It ***** and it was as if the withdrawals would learn any little thing I did to get any kind of comfort and head me off at the pass. After the forth day of straight insomnia I was ready to leave the facility AMA. I was started on 300mg nuerotin 2 times a day and 600mg before lights out. 1 hour after the first 300mg dose I fell asleep in the middle of a sentence while talking to my counselor. I slept for 6 hours that night as well. They kept this cycle for 5 days. The withdrawals after 5 days (9 total) were significantly less, but the insomnia came back. I couldn't shut off my brain to sleep no matter what I did. I was put back on the neurotin. I sneezed and had gastrointestinal issues for anther 5 days (14 total) then I came around. I also ran 1-2 miles once a day and it helped immensely.
I thought I would never be able to get off Suboxone and had tried several times. The withdrawals physically do not last months. Psychologically I'm also fine and it's day 24 since the last taper dose.
I won't say it's easy but as I stated before everyone has a different threshold for what they can and cannot tolerate.
This was my experience and these are only my opinions. I wish anyone who has to do this the best.
What was the process like for you?
I am on day 8 with no subs after 4 long miserable years. I will say it’s nowhere near what I feared or the horror stories that I’ve read. It’s not easy by any means but it is doable. However I developed a hatred for subs and what they’ve taken from me. It feels like they’ve stole my soul more so than street drugs. The worse thing for me is the no energy. That is a battle especially for someone who has to work 14 hours a day. I used baclofen 10mg 3X day as well as a supplement called NAC! It hasn’t been easy but it’s been doable! The lethargy is the worst for me
Hey handyman your post was very inspirational, I’ve been on suboxin for 4 years I woke up one day and didn’t take it any more I take a corner of a piece a day so small, been off for2 weeks how long before I feel better
Look I'm glad it was easy for you but for real that doesn't ever happen. Suboxone, methadone are both nightmares to o come off of and believe me people you will not be running a mile a day. Sometimes it can take up to three weeks before the hard withdrawal starts. Just do a slow medical detox and you should be fine
This post was put out years ago I would love to hear a follow up on this.
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Suboxone is nothing more than a replacement drug, it will just put you into further addiction.
My experience in coming off of this drug was regretfully NOT like this person's. However, I was on a much higher dose for many more years. I'm sure there are a few rare occasions when some people get lucky and withdrawal is doable...and I would NEVER take anything away from them for that. I personally, just didn't have that experience. I was house bound for over 4 weeks....lost well over 15lbs in that month. Couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, punched walls, experienced real, true withdrawals but....I did it! With the help of the people on this site pushing me forwards every single day, with the help of recovery (which I got into ASAP) and with the help of my higher power. I have been clean of ALL drugs (including alcohol) for a little over 4 1/2 years now. Suboxone is a replacement.....sent straight from hell for me!
Motye, your struggle was real. I felt so bad for you when you came here but you are rockin recovery now!!
I have been on suhoxone for 8 weeks after being on kratom for a year. Can't believe this doctor put me on Suboxone to get off kratom.Am down to 3 mg from 4 mg but can't seem to go any lower..Lost 22 lbs in 2 months since going on suboxone.Any suggestions? An thinking about going to inpatient detox if necessary
If you have the opportunity to do an inpatient detox I would recommend it. You’ll get the medical help you need and the chance to set up some aftercare. Plus you’ll get all the support you need to make it with like minded individuals. You don’t have to do this alone:)
I couldn't be more happy for you Mr. Happyman, seriously! Withdrawals aren't something i would wish on my worst enemies!!!
Not tO try and talk anyone outta quoting because it's the only way to regain you're life and everything that you are! But had i had access to anything I'd have killed myself!!! Now i was in jail getting ready to go to prison and that only compounds the effects but... All I heard was how day 3-5 ous the worst. You'll be good in roughly 2 weeks... Bill [email protected]
%*t!!!! It took literally a year to be able to sleep just ok. My skin hurting the depression the horrific anxiety??? It was roughly 7/8 months before I started feeling normal!
Just be prepared it's all on saying!
Maybe get on antidepressants and allow them time to kick in, have sleep aids, sorry system, clonidine... I mean just don't go at it without any means of support because not everyone is as lucky as Mr. Happyman!!!! But you can do our and out will eventually get better
I.e.facing stopping suboxone once again and I'm scared ********! But I'm more scared of suboxone and its long term affects. I'm falling apart mind and body and i want the old me back!
Suboxone got me off heroin and essentially saved my life but there's more work to be done! Suboxone isn't a long term quality life!