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I just can not quit, feel like it is taking over my life
I have been addicted to oxys for a few years, I have tried to quit a few times, cold turkey, through detox, even tried lowering my dosage, I feel like this is taking overmy life and job, I don't know what to do, It gets worst each and every day, my tolerance is up to 10 80's a day, I do not want methadone, as I beleive it is swapping one drug for another, nothing against methadone sounds great but just not for me, I need suggestions or advice on how i can get this done, I do want to quit, just have run out of ideas
Hi, divorced! 1st - I'm really glad you found this site.
I don't post often here, and I'm just newly clean. However, I am a medical professional and what many have said here are great things to consider.
- You mentioned stopping cold turkey as an option. While this is indeed and option, as many have pointed out, detox can be very rigorous, especially from the dosages you identified. 5 tabs a day is still quite a big dose.
- IF you can taper, this is similar to some of the protocols we use in the hospital. I know that I can't post taper schedules, but a quick google search will give you some ideas. Protocols range all over the place, from 10% reductions every 3 days to 50% reductions every week.
- From my personal experience, a taper helped tremendously. They are very hard to stick to without help. I also did NOT have help. Considering my job, NO ONE was aware of my problem. This includes my husband. What ended up working for me was basically not using until my w/d symptoms were unbearable, then taking the smallest dose possible to keep the symptoms tolerable. Note I said tolerable, not non-existent. I had slight w/d symptoms the entire time I was tapering. My drug of choice could be easily split in half or even quarters. When it was all said and done, I was able to keep cutting by about 50% each week. It also helped for me to take very small doses frequently instead of larger doses less frequently. This prevented me from getting a buzz, but kept the w/d symptoms tolerable.
- The scariest day for me was the 1st day with nothing. The w/d symptoms spiked, but I think it was mostly mental. I had creepy crawlies under my skin that were just miserable. But I made it. Almost 10 days before I relapsed and popped a pill. I won't make excuses - it was a relapse, but it was only 1 dose, and I flushed everything else I had. So I'm back to day 5 without anything in my system. The physical symptoms are better, except that I'm still not sleeping great. But I can function again.
My very best to you. I just can't make myself put a rosy spin on it - I think you're in for a battle. I think AT LEAST a week off work is great idea. I'd plan for 5-6 days of just getting through it without relapsing - and you're in for the symptoms you can find in any of the posts here. You're likely to feel awful, and then you'll see subtle improvement. If you can afford to take the 2nd week off, you may want to do that. My experience has been that's where the mental part really kicks in. I have to stay busy to keep from backsliding.
You CAN do this. So many success stories here to prove it. Get your plan together, use this site, add friends to help you stay strong.
Best of luck.
I don't post often here, and I'm just newly clean. However, I am a medical professional and what many have said here are great things to consider.
- You mentioned stopping cold turkey as an option. While this is indeed and option, as many have pointed out, detox can be very rigorous, especially from the dosages you identified. 5 tabs a day is still quite a big dose.
- IF you can taper, this is similar to some of the protocols we use in the hospital. I know that I can't post taper schedules, but a quick google search will give you some ideas. Protocols range all over the place, from 10% reductions every 3 days to 50% reductions every week.
- From my personal experience, a taper helped tremendously. They are very hard to stick to without help. I also did NOT have help. Considering my job, NO ONE was aware of my problem. This includes my husband. What ended up working for me was basically not using until my w/d symptoms were unbearable, then taking the smallest dose possible to keep the symptoms tolerable. Note I said tolerable, not non-existent. I had slight w/d symptoms the entire time I was tapering. My drug of choice could be easily split in half or even quarters. When it was all said and done, I was able to keep cutting by about 50% each week. It also helped for me to take very small doses frequently instead of larger doses less frequently. This prevented me from getting a buzz, but kept the w/d symptoms tolerable.
- The scariest day for me was the 1st day with nothing. The w/d symptoms spiked, but I think it was mostly mental. I had creepy crawlies under my skin that were just miserable. But I made it. Almost 10 days before I relapsed and popped a pill. I won't make excuses - it was a relapse, but it was only 1 dose, and I flushed everything else I had. So I'm back to day 5 without anything in my system. The physical symptoms are better, except that I'm still not sleeping great. But I can function again.
My very best to you. I just can't make myself put a rosy spin on it - I think you're in for a battle. I think AT LEAST a week off work is great idea. I'd plan for 5-6 days of just getting through it without relapsing - and you're in for the symptoms you can find in any of the posts here. You're likely to feel awful, and then you'll see subtle improvement. If you can afford to take the 2nd week off, you may want to do that. My experience has been that's where the mental part really kicks in. I have to stay busy to keep from backsliding.
You CAN do this. So many success stories here to prove it. Get your plan together, use this site, add friends to help you stay strong.
Best of luck.
By help I meant professional help at a treatment center. NOT help from your dealer who is not a professional. All you would be doing again is self-medicating and truthfully, if you knew how to do it, you would not have let it get this far. Also, I don't know anyone who has slept through detox short of a comma. At the rate you are at right now, there is not enough tranquilizers to keep you sleeping and you once again risk killing yourself by taking matters into your own hands.
Are you willing to take the 3 weeks off that you have coming to you and go into a supervised medical detox?
Are you willing to take the 3 weeks off that you have coming to you and go into a supervised medical detox?
IBKleen: I have hidden it from the company for 4 years, on retreats, business trips, 12 hour days, I am not worried really about them finding out, I am more worried that I won't be able to quit and it will kill me, or the depression associated with them some days will be my demise. I'll be honest I worry for myself also, my sickness in the morning without the ones I have before I get out of bed is terrible, gagging, eyes sweating, sweats, I tried 1 this morning made it to the kitchen for the morning coffee and had to do another, I was sweating again before I could even get it scraped. I want help, I have spoke to the one I get them from and he can give me a bunch of other things like tranqualizers, flexeral, 600-800mg Ibprofin, Valuim/Diazapam and clonidine, when I am ready to go cold turkey, he will give me all I need to go for a week. I am scared to do it, he assures me he can make it where I sleep through the 4-5 days they say it takes to withdraw, the only thing he can't give me is suboxin or methadone. I really would like to get my old life back, that would be so much better than the sneaking around and hidding things, or avoiding relationships so that it can't be held over me. Yes I am a little paranoid I worry someone will know who I am and blackmail me, I know sounds ridiculous but it's how I think.
You scare me. For years, and years I tried to do it on my own and never could. It is not a matter of being strong willed or whatever you think it is. If it were that easy I would not have used drugs for most of my life, this forum wouldn't be here and drug abuse would not be a near epidemic in this country.
It wasn't until I realized I needed help, and asked for it, was able to start the recovery process. And recovery is not just about putting the pills down.
You are all worried about people finding out and your boss knowing, etc. How long do you honestly think you can go on like this before you lose everything, maybe even your life?
It's not going to get better hun and I don't believe you can do this alone. I sincerely hope you get the help you need. I will pray for you.
It wasn't until I realized I needed help, and asked for it, was able to start the recovery process. And recovery is not just about putting the pills down.
You are all worried about people finding out and your boss knowing, etc. How long do you honestly think you can go on like this before you lose everything, maybe even your life?
It's not going to get better hun and I don't believe you can do this alone. I sincerely hope you get the help you need. I will pray for you.
IBKleen: I was not able to drop my consumption at all, I actually came to realize I do more than 10 a day, Saturday was 12 and Sunday was 16, Yes I do snort them, and I do not know how to change this now, as I tried this morning to do just 1 before exiting my bed and couldn't, I made it to the kitchen and had to do another one right away, I am at work now and have done two since arriving, I have come to realize what I thought my consumption was in fact is much more. I am going to try the taper through the day today if possible. If this does not work, I have no idea what I am going to do, or how to do it, all I know is I cannot go on like this, I despise my personal life (the pills) and after the rude awakening over the weekend I have very low self esteem.
Gutsnglitter: I was not worried about anything, I do not move in with the usual drug addicts, the only addict I know is me, Good luck on your move, I hope it goes smoothly for you and you can complete what it is you are hoping to accomplish with moving, I wish you the best.
Gutsnglitter: I was not worried about anything, I do not move in with the usual drug addicts, the only addict I know is me, Good luck on your move, I hope it goes smoothly for you and you can complete what it is you are hoping to accomplish with moving, I wish you the best.
You take 5 80 mgs in the morning before leaving for work? If that is right, then what I said to you last week still stands. You are on dangerous ground...medically. And you snort them as well? I am sure you know that snorting them bypasses the time release and spikes your dose, giving you more at once. It is going to be real hard to taper if you continue to snort them.
Over your 3 day weekend were you able to drop at all? What is your next plan?
Over your 3 day weekend were you able to drop at all? What is your next plan?
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