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K/E Greg Pearl
Gosh guys... I'm lost here. I can't find the regular site we all have been on. Are you guys, K/E, Greg, Precious out there? I can't find our forum!
I been taking vs for 4 years now and need to STOP bad I'm lost and don't know where to start. I just found this place and everyone seem support to help, but I'm trying to find the main page to get stared and find out what to do. If anyone know where to start on here or diff forum let me know. ***@****
Sorry to hear you are in so much pain. What kind do you have? Back pain? I am headint to the hospital tonight to have a sleep apnea test done. I hope I don't have it but wake so much and hubby says I snore so I am finally having the test done. Still haven't phyched up to C/T off the meds yet. THAT is coming, though. I need to find 4 days in a row of NOTHING to do. Hard to do around the holidays, huh. BUT I WILL do it again. OK thanks for all the support on here. Hope you feel better, Greg...Hi Breakingfree, too. Precious
Hey everyone:
Hope all is well with everyone. Its a sleepless night over here. Bad couple days! Recovery can really suck when you are really hurting and cant take heavy pain meds. Its a rough world out there folks, watch your step!
Hope all is well with everyone. Its a sleepless night over here. Bad couple days! Recovery can really suck when you are really hurting and cant take heavy pain meds. Its a rough world out there folks, watch your step!
GOOD to hear from you. I KNOW I need to PSYCHE up again on this battle. It was nice to hear it took you a couple of tries. My NEXT one will be off of BOTH of the meds at once. I KNOW I CAN DO IT...NEED to but for right now still trying to Psyche up and keep unemployed hubby afloat. UGH what a time for him to lose his job but I KNOW that was NO excuse for me messing up. OK I hope you are still doing great. YOU were my role model and Greg and Knight Errant. I HOPE to feel up to trying it again. Need to have a few days set aside to get the "flu" again. How long after your 1st slip up did you try to stop again if you don't mind me asking. OK thanks again for all the support. Precious
Hey! I missed you! I just wanted to let you know I c/t'd twice before the final try, and I did it the 3rd time. It has to come from your gut as I told you before. There is always something thats going to 'come up' to try to push you back into taking the pills. If you really stop and give it some thought, it doesn't make anything better. You are the only one that knows if you are ready to take it on and stop for good. You'll know it, and go in it with both guns drawn! Never stop trying and hang in there Precious!
Hubby is in the union so he has to wait on the "list" and we live in South Florida. Do you know anyone who C/T off of soma AND vicodin at the same time? I REALLY want to do this once I psyche myself up for it. The first time I went off the vicodin (only time so far) I stayed on the soma a couple at night but slowly took more and more of those. But I didn't feel much different stopping both of them at the same time. I am having trouble finding people who have C/T off both of these drugs at the same time. Thanks again for your help and candle. Precious
Hubby is in the union so he has to wait on the "list" and we live in South Florida. Do you know anyone who C/T off of soma AND vicodin at the same time? I REALLY want to do this once I psyche myself up for it. The first time I went off the vicodin (only time so far) I stayed on the soma a couple at night but slowly took more and more of those. But I didn't feel much different stopping both of them at the same time. I am having trouble finding people who have C/T off both of these drugs at the same time. Thanks again for your help and candle. Precious
pearl:
You guys are going to be fine. If you dont mind me asking, what did your husband do for a living?
what part of the country are you guys from? Maybe I can help. Maybe someone out here can help you guys out.
I do feel for you guys. I got laid off several months ago and was scrambling to get all my medical stuff done before my insturance ran out. I was really freaked out. That was a terrible time to quit, know what I mean?
Well, I will light a candle for you guys and please keep us in the know.
You guys are going to be fine. If you dont mind me asking, what did your husband do for a living?
what part of the country are you guys from? Maybe I can help. Maybe someone out here can help you guys out.
I do feel for you guys. I got laid off several months ago and was scrambling to get all my medical stuff done before my insturance ran out. I was really freaked out. That was a terrible time to quit, know what I mean?
Well, I will light a candle for you guys and please keep us in the know.
THANK YOU THANK YOU for all your advice. I KNOW I need to STOP it. I have a "sleep apnea" test scheduled for this Sunday night where they monitor you all night in the hospital to see if you have sleep apnea. I am thinking it's just the drugs. But I always wanted to get this done and am trying to do stuff while I still have hubby's insurance. Scheduled a colonscopy the day before Thanksgiving, too. Well, it has to be done and I KNOW I need to get off these drugs. Hubby is depressed over losing his job and you are right I am masking the pain of all that's going on here. Thanks for telling me you had to try several times as I felt like a failure. I have told no one I relapsed yet except my hubby. He sounded kind of disappointed but I told him I would try again. I think I need to just stop BOTH the vicodin and soma at the same time or just take a coule somas at night. I NEED to psyche up AGAIN for this endeavor. I KNOW I need to stop this merry go round. Thanks for your support...I MEAN IT...Precious
! Pearl:
As much as I hate to admit it, it took me several times to quit. Each time was more difficult than the previous time. It wasn’t as much the physical symptoms as much as it was the emotional scars that it continued to place on me. Having to break the cycle so many times took its toll on me emotionally. The physical symptoms were as bad as the length of time I was back on when I relapsed. The body continues to adapt as your body makes changes to accommodate the drugs it’s ingesting.
Pearl, just think of the most resounding effects you undergo when you’re on vicodin. The digestive system takes a huge hit as constipation and dehydration occurs. Your liver and kidneys are really stressed as your body is allowing valuable hydration to pass without helping replenish your body.
Your joints are going to dry out and the older you are, the more likely you are going to suffer from the effects of osteo arthritis. This is what happened to me. The loss of natural lubrication in your joints will cause them to be compromised.
Pearl, this is an important time. You need to really think hard here. One week back is not going to kill you, but you really need to stop! You have come way too far and your body is going to get confused going on and off of this stuff.
No matter what you do, never quit quitting
Its been about 3 months for me this time and I am feeling pertty good. My body is normanizing despite the pain from joint issues. When the pain is bad, I use Darvaset becaue it does not dope me up as much and the side effects are not as extreme. I have gone for as long as 6 months and still went back but man do I regret it! Each time was a painful adventure for me that I just cant undergo again. What screwed up my sleeping was the constent urinating from dehydration not to mension the muscle twitching and dryness.
As much as I hate to admit it, it took me several times to quit. Each time was more difficult than the previous time. It wasn’t as much the physical symptoms as much as it was the emotional scars that it continued to place on me. Having to break the cycle so many times took its toll on me emotionally. The physical symptoms were as bad as the length of time I was back on when I relapsed. The body continues to adapt as your body makes changes to accommodate the drugs it’s ingesting.
Pearl, just think of the most resounding effects you undergo when you’re on vicodin. The digestive system takes a huge hit as constipation and dehydration occurs. Your liver and kidneys are really stressed as your body is allowing valuable hydration to pass without helping replenish your body.
Your joints are going to dry out and the older you are, the more likely you are going to suffer from the effects of osteo arthritis. This is what happened to me. The loss of natural lubrication in your joints will cause them to be compromised.
Pearl, this is an important time. You need to really think hard here. One week back is not going to kill you, but you really need to stop! You have come way too far and your body is going to get confused going on and off of this stuff.
No matter what you do, never quit quitting
Its been about 3 months for me this time and I am feeling pertty good. My body is normanizing despite the pain from joint issues. When the pain is bad, I use Darvaset becaue it does not dope me up as much and the side effects are not as extreme. I have gone for as long as 6 months and still went back but man do I regret it! Each time was a painful adventure for me that I just cant undergo again. What screwed up my sleeping was the constent urinating from dehydration not to mension the muscle twitching and dryness.
Thanks again. It's hard for me to keep busy. I am retired a year now and a little bored but need to start some house projects that me and the hubby can do together. I have been taking the vicodin for a week now since he lost his job. Did get good news today, though, that he will be getting unemployement for 6 months so that is good to hear. TRYING to psyche up to stopping it AGAIN. You really don't think it will be as hard this time? Actually, the first time wasn't that hard BUT I just layed in bed for 3 days and told myself I had the flu. I had been on it for SEVEN years.... Maybe if I PAINT the house that will keep me out of trouble IF I have the energy. lol Thanks again for all your UPLIFTING advice. I KNOW I NEED to stop it now..How long have you been off of it did you say? and did you only take vicodin? My Dr. has me on Soma, too. Ugh double trouble, huh. But I
remember my 5th day off the vicodin and how good I slept. I think the pills make you wake every few hours. OK thanks for your thoughts. Precious
PS I LIKE when you keep telling me "you'll be fine" I NEED to hear that. :) Thanks
remember my 5th day off the vicodin and how good I slept. I think the pills make you wake every few hours. OK thanks for your thoughts. Precious
PS I LIKE when you keep telling me "you'll be fine" I NEED to hear that. :) Thanks
Pearl:
Its a hundred times easier when you keep your mind busy! You wont go throught the huge withdrawl like before, so buck up and stay busy and youll be fine!
Ill be thinking about you so know that someone is throwing some "posative heat" at ya.
Its a hundred times easier when you keep your mind busy! You wont go throught the huge withdrawl like before, so buck up and stay busy and youll be fine!
Ill be thinking about you so know that someone is throwing some "posative heat" at ya.
WOW THANKS I NEEDED THAT speech. YOU are right. My hubby NEEDS me now and I need to get back off these drugs. I KNEW I could depend on this site to help me. I will try tomorrow to STOP again C/T ...Lots going on this week...so I won't be able to lie in bed like the first time. So, Greg, it took you more than once to "kick" the habit? Hey, I am a sports fan, too, so can relate to the your "life throwing me curve balls" comments. I LOVE IT....You are SO right. He's been laid off before and the economy IS awful right now but we'll survive...Always have. Please keep your uplifting posts coming. I need all the help I can get right now. :) Thanks again ...Precious
Precious Pearl:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
Dont feel like your starting all over again. You have come such a long way and every journey has a few detours!
Having a loved one lose a job is a very trunatic expereance and its especially bad to have to watch a loved one go through it. We all fall down in life Pearl, but the strongest of us dont stay down, we get up and keep forging ahaid! Take if from someone who has fallen down plenty of times.
The only thing you lose if you fall down is a day of being clean, not your dignity, not your self respect! If you chose to buckle and give in, than you lose those things, but if you fall down, get your *** back up on the horse and keep riding!
This is your biggest test and you need to see it thourgh. have lost my job 4 times in the last 4 years due to lay offs and the bad econemy and it really plays games with my head. It makes me feel worthles and makes me feel physically sick. You never get used to it. My family got me though it with their love and support.
Give your hubby some of that love and support by respect him enough to focus your energy on his needs, not the need to get high to escape the stress. I mean that in the most loving way, not to be judgmental. If your man is anything like me, hes feeling a little hurt and scared right now. He needs you more than you need Vicodin right now. Focus on that and consider your fall from recovery a painfull day where you could not take the pain any more. The newness of this tramatic situation can be the begining of your new adventure or the begin of your spiral down back into the hell of addiction. Dont commemorate the day your man lost his job by becoming an addict again Pearl. Make it the day you looked death in the face looked away for a second, than looked back with a smile and laughed!
Life throws us all curve balls and sometimes we get hit with them. When life throws you a curve ball, and it hits you, drop the bat and run out to the mound and kick the $HIT our of it! Dont hit yourself with the bat! Your husband got hit by the crurveball of a crapy econemy and lost his job, hes going to go find a new one. You got hit by Vicodin again. What are you going to do, sit down at the plate and eat dirt?
Your going to be fine Pearl, just pick up the bat and get back at the plate. If life hits you again, run out there and fix it! Dont quit the game, you have come too far. Its not starting all over, we all get do overs in life. Dont kick yourself, dont be depressed, dont give it a second thought, just get back at the plate and get ready to hit the ball Pearl. If anyone has an excuse, its you, but now you have used the excuse and its time to move on to help your Ol man.
FYI to King and Breaking free, I watch this site every day, I have not forgotton about you all. I have had some battles of my own to grind out over here too. I hope everyone is well!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
Dont feel like your starting all over again. You have come such a long way and every journey has a few detours!
Having a loved one lose a job is a very trunatic expereance and its especially bad to have to watch a loved one go through it. We all fall down in life Pearl, but the strongest of us dont stay down, we get up and keep forging ahaid! Take if from someone who has fallen down plenty of times.
The only thing you lose if you fall down is a day of being clean, not your dignity, not your self respect! If you chose to buckle and give in, than you lose those things, but if you fall down, get your *** back up on the horse and keep riding!
This is your biggest test and you need to see it thourgh. have lost my job 4 times in the last 4 years due to lay offs and the bad econemy and it really plays games with my head. It makes me feel worthles and makes me feel physically sick. You never get used to it. My family got me though it with their love and support.
Give your hubby some of that love and support by respect him enough to focus your energy on his needs, not the need to get high to escape the stress. I mean that in the most loving way, not to be judgmental. If your man is anything like me, hes feeling a little hurt and scared right now. He needs you more than you need Vicodin right now. Focus on that and consider your fall from recovery a painfull day where you could not take the pain any more. The newness of this tramatic situation can be the begining of your new adventure or the begin of your spiral down back into the hell of addiction. Dont commemorate the day your man lost his job by becoming an addict again Pearl. Make it the day you looked death in the face looked away for a second, than looked back with a smile and laughed!
Life throws us all curve balls and sometimes we get hit with them. When life throws you a curve ball, and it hits you, drop the bat and run out to the mound and kick the $HIT our of it! Dont hit yourself with the bat! Your husband got hit by the crurveball of a crapy econemy and lost his job, hes going to go find a new one. You got hit by Vicodin again. What are you going to do, sit down at the plate and eat dirt?
Your going to be fine Pearl, just pick up the bat and get back at the plate. If life hits you again, run out there and fix it! Dont quit the game, you have come too far. Its not starting all over, we all get do overs in life. Dont kick yourself, dont be depressed, dont give it a second thought, just get back at the plate and get ready to hit the ball Pearl. If anyone has an excuse, its you, but now you have used the excuse and its time to move on to help your Ol man.
FYI to King and Breaking free, I watch this site every day, I have not forgotton about you all. I have had some battles of my own to grind out over here too. I hope everyone is well!
I am ok except hubby got laid off of work. I slipped up and took some vicodin. I COULD KICK MYSELF for it and I know it was NO excuse after all that I went thru, Guess I should have been in more contact with this site. OK so guess I have to start all over again BUT I will do it.....Hope you are doing better than I am. :) This IS a battle isn't it? OK I'll write more later when I have something more positive to report. :) Precious
HEY!!! How are you? I am happy to finally be back. Let me know how you are doing!!! I can't wait to hear the good news! What day are you on now? I am thinking of you....
WOW day 5...you are on the homestretch now girl....I found the first 3-4 days the hardest. But my Dr. had me on Buspar 3 times a day....Soma 3-4 times a day and the Vicodin 3-4 times a day so I still had a little help with the other 2 drugs but HOPE to be off of at least the Soma by Christmas. This is something you have to PSYCHE yourself up for. I did a month or so of research on this site and it, too, gave me the power to even TRY to stop the vicodin after a 7 year addiction "for pain" per my Dr. :) I haven't told him yet I am not taking it. Long story but he need not know yet. I can't wait til the day when he says "you are on your own getting off of them" IF indeed he will say that. Then I'll just say...OH OK. :) The FREEDOM from the vicodin alone is so wonderful. You just keep on going. You are doing great. How many were you taking a day may I ask? I tell you if it weren't for Knight Errant and Breakingfree (2 people on this site) I am not sure I would have made it. This is a good place to be. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK...Precious
I am on day 5. I've been reading all the post. It is so great to have people that are going thru the exact same thing. It helps sooo much. Remebering how I got started after a neck injury 4 yrs ago. I question the doctor about addiction, he put his arm around me and said its better for you to be addicted than in pain. Once law suit was over and he got his money he said he couldnt see me anymore because of no insurance. Thats when i started buying on the streets. I couldnt believe I what I was doing. Dealing with people that sell crack and other ****. Could have ruined my life gone to jail, lost my business my house . Those pills were running my life. Always thinking do I have enough to finish this job, or to attend a get together. I just came back from walking my dogs and being outside, I justed wanted to scream I AM FREE. MY head seems to have cleared way ahead of my body. lol My body still feels weak, lack of energy. I am pretending that I had surgery and it will take time build up some energy. The flip-flopping at night is the worst part left. If I didnt have all of you saying how it will get better I never would have made it. I have company coming this weekend and it scares me. Don't know if i will be able to keep up. I think I am going to be honest with them and hope they understand that there might be times I just need to lay down. My montra for all this is that detox is number one and everything else can wait. Thank you all for everything.
I am doing good on the vicodin detox. Today is like day 22, I think, am losing track. :) But still take the somas and want to get off of those, too. One day at a time, right, as they say. How long has it been for you off the vicodin again? Still have no memory. I wish I could get my 23 year old daughter AND mother of 2 1/2 year old daughter to stop smoking the pot. Do you have any suggestions on that one? :) I think she self medicates herself as she acts so "together" when smoking the pot. Without it she's A MESS. OK any positive words there will be appreciated. Thanks Precious
Just checking in to see how everyone is doing. Hope everyone is well. We sure have come a long way haven't we?
Best to everyone.
K/E
Best to everyone.
K/E
I just got back from 2 days away visiting my best friend and my son/wife. SO nice to get away an NOT worry about the vicodin. I really sleep SO much better without that. Not sure if it's the soma at night or what but I love it. I am doing good, so far. Let's see it's like day17 for me I guess. YAHOOO Not much else to report right now. I'll write more later. Just wanted to drop in. Precious
You and K/E are neck & neck! lol I see you are strarting to see the world in a new and better light! There IS normalcy after the pills. How are you feeling? Please let us know and I think of you guys everyday. I can't wait to hear your progress! Have a wonderful sleep!
Hey, precious I haven't been around in a few days. How are you doing?? I am so proud of you! Let us know!
Best,
K/E
Best,
K/E
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