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K/E Greg Pearl

Gosh guys... I'm lost here. I can't find the regular site we all have been on. Are you guys, K/E, Greg, Precious out there? I can't find our forum!
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Well aboard Tom.  Congratulations on your brave decision to get your life back.  How are things going withdrawal wise, on day 3?
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I have been addicted to Oxy's for three years now, after a long taper I am now looking at day 3 tomorrow, I read this post and all here seem up and happy, so nice to see all of you such friends, what a great place to come for support and friendship.
Tom...
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Its my pleasure, taking into account that everyone is different, I am horrified at how quick the doctors are to prescribe meds that actually do more damage than good.  After all, that’s how 98% of us got hooked on vicodin, from a legitimate injury and a doctor who became our drug dealers.

I have lost 100% of my confidence in modern medicine.  With DDD and acid reflux, all I hear from any on these MD's is that there is not a lot that doctors can do to help short of massive invasive surgery.  They don’t even consider alternative treatments and actually discourage chiropractic care.  My chiropractor saved my life!  Had it not been for him, I would be in too much pain to work and what do these MD's do, try to give me more drugs.  At least the chiropractor is being proactive and helping me without poisoning me!

I will share all of my experiences with you and hope you can benefit from it.  If not for anything else, for encouragement that the doctors ARE NOT the LAST WORD!  You are and so am I.  There are so many alternatives out there and so many people who want to sell you **** too and get rich on our misery.  Depression, fear, anxiety, all of these things cause us to do things we would otherwise NEVER do and buy things we would NEVER buy.  Let’s throw away the fear and anxiety and get on with living.  Even if it’s tough right now, many have quietly gone down the road we have and done just fine.  We are the lucky ones to have each other to support and lean on and share notes with.

* Weeks into my recovery and now I can’t get enough sleep now!  LOL@@  I guess that means I am finally back to my old self!
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Good to hear from you! and I wanted to tell you how informative your post is. You are such an asset here because you go deeper into the long term affects of what drugs can do to our bodies and also reflect the internal affects from the drugs as well as the outward ones. Every input here is so needed for all of us.

Everyone: Have a strong evening and I will pray that you sleep if you pray that I will:) :) :)
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Hey Pearl:

I did the two day sneeze too.  The reason you are sneezing is likely your body’s response to re hydrating and you’re having the beginning of a little post nasal drip.  This is pretty common in addition to bouts of diha rehia.  Lots and lots of water is the answer!

Make sure you stand up erect when you start sneezing to avoid throwing out your back or getting muscle aches.  Don’t bend over or roll your shoulders (I learned this the hard way).  I actually pulled a tendon in my back when I was having a sneezing attack.

A little bit of new information for all of my fellow rehabbers.  I have been doing a little research and guess what.....

If you get off the vicodin and are still taking other drugs for depression, or anti inflammatory BE CAREFUL!

The anti inflammatory can do as much or more damage to your stomach as the Vicodin (which will absolutely trash your stomach, liver and kidneys).  If you have been taking Vicodin for an extended period of time, be VERY careful about switching to Motrin, or even Naproxen over the counter or prescription.

With regard to anti depressants or even muscle relaxers.....again, many of our stomach's are in an impaired state from abuse of Vicodin.  Anti depressants and muscle relaxers can actually weaken the LES (Lower esophageal Sphincter) which is the one way valve that keeps the stomach acid in your stomach and out of your esophagus.  When this happens, you can develop acid reflux which can present itself in the early stages as bouts of coughing, the feeling that something is in your throat, difficulty swallowing, hoarseness of the voice and eventually heartburn to various levels.

Be aware that if you are feeling any discomfort in your esophagus, don’t discount the possibility of reflux or ulcer.  Caught early, are easily treatable.  If left unchecked can develop into some nasty stuff!  Anxiety adds to this condition as well so be careful and be aware of your digestive health. If you do get some heartburn, go easy on the harsh antacids, many contain aluminum and are not good for the kidneys over extended periods of time.

We are all going to go through joint pain, anxiety and tension while getting off this stuff.  Be patient and give your body time to adjust.  The goal here folks is to eliminate ALLpain killing pharmaceuticals, not just the ones that make you high.

Pain free from Mother Nature folks, that’s what we want!  That’s what we deserve!  
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Hey, do you take anything else or have you when you C/T the vicodin? Just wondered. Maybe you told me and I forgot. lol Brain still has a few sheets over it. :) Feeling a little shaky today for some reason. Not sure why, and I keep sneezing??? Is this the vicodin withdrawal thingy? The sneezing, I mean.  I just read a Soma post and man NOW I am thinking that might be harder for me to get off of than the vicodin BUT I AM DETERMINED...:) Hey, anything is possible if you PUT your mind to it, right? OK just wanted to touch base for the day. I am going out of town until Thurs. so may not be posting much unless my friend's computer is working. OK hope you and everyone else struggling with these pills is having a GREAT day....Thanks again ...Precious
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