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Legal question regarding suboxone
Hi...
I hope someone can answer this question. I started the Suboxone treatment yesterday with a horrible outcome. Long story short, I ended up finding another detox location closer to my home to go through instead of the one I went to yesterday. The med office wanted me to come in on a daily basis to get my dose for the day. Mind you, I paid, up front for the pills. I got my prescription filled, then decided that I didn't want to do it that way, and came home with my prescription.
I don't need anyone writing saying that the docs do that for safety, blah blah blah. I know this. I get the reasons why they do it. My situation is different though and I'm not willing to play by their rules. Might sound bad to you, but I'm being honest. I plan on taking the pills WHEN they are needed.. only when I'm symptomatic. After a week to 10 days, I then plan on weening myself off the Suboxone. I understand that the withdrawal from that is not as bad as with Lortab. I started taking the Lortab because of kidney stones, not because I was trying to get high or party or whatever. I became physically addicted because of a medical situation.
My question is this..... can I get into any LEGAL trouble for not returning to the clinic? I did not sign anything nor was I an inpatient. The "rules" at the clinic were that I was to get the RX filled, bring it back to the clinic and let them dispense it to me daily. I just got the RX filled and drove home. I'm going to do this MY way.
I just don't want the cops showing up causing problems for me. Maybe a bit paranoid. But right now, with the way I feel, that's the last thing I need.
Thanks.
Thanks in advance.
I hope someone can answer this question. I started the Suboxone treatment yesterday with a horrible outcome. Long story short, I ended up finding another detox location closer to my home to go through instead of the one I went to yesterday. The med office wanted me to come in on a daily basis to get my dose for the day. Mind you, I paid, up front for the pills. I got my prescription filled, then decided that I didn't want to do it that way, and came home with my prescription.
I don't need anyone writing saying that the docs do that for safety, blah blah blah. I know this. I get the reasons why they do it. My situation is different though and I'm not willing to play by their rules. Might sound bad to you, but I'm being honest. I plan on taking the pills WHEN they are needed.. only when I'm symptomatic. After a week to 10 days, I then plan on weening myself off the Suboxone. I understand that the withdrawal from that is not as bad as with Lortab. I started taking the Lortab because of kidney stones, not because I was trying to get high or party or whatever. I became physically addicted because of a medical situation.
My question is this..... can I get into any LEGAL trouble for not returning to the clinic? I did not sign anything nor was I an inpatient. The "rules" at the clinic were that I was to get the RX filled, bring it back to the clinic and let them dispense it to me daily. I just got the RX filled and drove home. I'm going to do this MY way.
I just don't want the cops showing up causing problems for me. Maybe a bit paranoid. But right now, with the way I feel, that's the last thing I need.
Thanks.
Thanks in advance.
One more day down!!!!!
It should just keep getting better and better!!!
Just dont be surprised if you have a bad day here and there. Sub can sneak those in on ya ever so often. Just hang tight!
Three days with no pills.... I am truly impressed!
Henry
Im so sorry but I have to get this off my chest....
It seems as many people posting the negative comments here are quite uneducated themselves on Suboxone therapy and Substance abuse.
Simply put, Opiate use for whatever reason, pain or recreation. Leads to TOLERANCE which leads to DEPENDENCE, which leads to ADDICTION. This comes straight from the American Medical Association. Us addicts took it all the way down the line, Kecia has halted this process at dependance. And it is very different.
"If she where just physical dependent she could have just tapered
off of her pills, why use suboxone ? I did not take my pills to get high....... "
If you take opiates for a long period of time and are human you are going to have wd's. Why put yourself through that misery if you dont have to? Suboxone does not cure addiction. It simply minimizes wd's and allows your brain's receptors to begin producing its natural morphine again.
When we ingest foreign opiates for long periods of time, our brains stop producing endorphins. Endorphins are chemically identical to opiates, and when our bodies get them from an outside source, they feel they dont need to be produced anymore. We stop ingesting foreign opiates, and then have NO endorphins in out receptors, which is why we wd, and feel like hell. Suboxone minimizes the wd's from coming off your former opiate of choice and kick starts endorphin production so thatwhen we stop our DOC, there is more endorphins (Serotonin, Epinepherine, Dopamine, Norepinepherine) filling our receptors than would be without the Sub.
The reason we experience Sub wd's is because even though our bodies are producing these wonderful chemicals again, sub is still partially held in those receptors by its high binding potential, and until it can come out all the way endorphins can not get it, which is why we feel kinda like ****.
I hope this helps, Im sure it wont but I tried..... If anyone would like to explain or argue my thoughts please PM me. Some of the things said on this board could really turn a person off to this site....
Excellent post, Kecia...and it IS thanks to this forum that you are doing SO well, thank GOD!
I think it is a shame that you were put on the sub as well...the only hope I have is that so far...so good...I hope that you continue down the road to recovery without too many potholes. At least, now you are better equipped and better educated to deal with it.
Yay...3 days off the Sub is GREAT!!!!!! :0)
I think it is a shame that you were put on the sub as well...the only hope I have is that so far...so good...I hope that you continue down the road to recovery without too many potholes. At least, now you are better equipped and better educated to deal with it.
Yay...3 days off the Sub is GREAT!!!!!! :0)
we pinky sweared.... is sweared a word.. but we did. sssh hun. So not worth it.
What were the doctors orders exactly? She may have been placed on a very low wean dosage according to the levels of opiates in her blood
Shows that all my posts were not read. The stupid doctor wanted me to do a long slow taper. He wrote me a script for 100 pills. The doctor was an idiot. Plain and simple.
What were the doctors orders exactly? She may have been placed on a very low wean dosage according to the levels of opiates in her blood
Shows that all my posts were not read. The stupid doctor wanted me to do a long slow taper. He wrote me a script for 100 pills. The doctor was an idiot. Plain and simple.
Ok, now I sorta get it. The one question that keeps being asked, 'then why is she on
the sub in the first place. Its called being uninformed. I was really struggling with the w/d's from the lortab. Really badly. The diarrhea, the body aches, the sweats. I had started to taper ON MY OWN before finally calling my regular care physician to ask for help. Because I was just really really ill.
That being said... I knew NOTHING about sub. Nothing. Never heard of it. Obviously, what my husband and I should have done was come home and done a bit of research on it. I can't say it would have changed anything. I don't know. I just know I was sicker than heck and wanted to not be sick. When your in the throws of wd's, your not thinking real clearly. But see, this is the perfect example of A DOCTOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING. I have heard over and over that I shouldn't have even been given the sub. I had no idea the dangers of this drug and I only was SAVED by what this doctor wanted to do to me... a long slow taper.... by coming to THIS FORUM. I became pretty informed, rather quickly. I was on the sub for a total of 8 days. I have now been off the sub for... well, today is day 3. But maybe that is where some of the confusion is... where many of you aren't "getting it." You keep asking, if she isn't an addict, why is she on sub. So I see the confusion. It makes me really sad to know what could have happened if I had done what this doctor wanted me to do. I would have been ill for so much longer than necessary. So the answer to your question about why was I on the sub in the first place... it's because I didn't know any better. And I didn't ask enough questions, and neither did my husband. But anyone who's been totally sick with wd's ... which by the way, the clinic told me to come that way.. .which I found weird... they wanted me withdrawing from my meds and sick when I arrived.) knows that thinking clearly or rationally is a tough one when your in that state. My husband did ask some questions, but they weren't the right ones...
Anyway. I hope that maybe helps you see why I ended up on the sub. Perhaps I should have tried to stay and taper on the lortab, but it was extremely painful. I haven't had that with the sub. I know many of you say I will feel it mentally, the wd's are bad ... with depression etc. I haven't had that YET. I pray I don't. But I can assure you, even with all the nastiness here... I will seek assistance with that part of it HERE if I should find myself struggling with it.
And I do appreciate your opinion. I do. But this is also where the 'you don't know me" thing comes in. Before the kidney stones... I was the type of person who would NOT take pain meds for a tooth ache or having dental work done. I would take over the counter Tylenol. I would not take a script from the dentist. The only time I've taken pain meds is with the kidney issues and the stents. Because I just could not bear (bare?) it. So hon, everyone is different. This is why I kept getting so frustrated. While you found yourself wanting to take the pills for every little pain, I don't have that same desire. That does NOT , AND I REPEAT... it does not make me any better than you. I do not think that for one minute. Please oh please don't take it that way.
Anyway.. I hope maybe this sheds some light on things. I apprec... gosh, my hands are not working right now... I do appreciate your last post. The tone was much different. Thank you for that. It would be nice if we could all be civil here. I have gained so much from being here.
the sub in the first place. Its called being uninformed. I was really struggling with the w/d's from the lortab. Really badly. The diarrhea, the body aches, the sweats. I had started to taper ON MY OWN before finally calling my regular care physician to ask for help. Because I was just really really ill.
That being said... I knew NOTHING about sub. Nothing. Never heard of it. Obviously, what my husband and I should have done was come home and done a bit of research on it. I can't say it would have changed anything. I don't know. I just know I was sicker than heck and wanted to not be sick. When your in the throws of wd's, your not thinking real clearly. But see, this is the perfect example of A DOCTOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING. I have heard over and over that I shouldn't have even been given the sub. I had no idea the dangers of this drug and I only was SAVED by what this doctor wanted to do to me... a long slow taper.... by coming to THIS FORUM. I became pretty informed, rather quickly. I was on the sub for a total of 8 days. I have now been off the sub for... well, today is day 3. But maybe that is where some of the confusion is... where many of you aren't "getting it." You keep asking, if she isn't an addict, why is she on sub. So I see the confusion. It makes me really sad to know what could have happened if I had done what this doctor wanted me to do. I would have been ill for so much longer than necessary. So the answer to your question about why was I on the sub in the first place... it's because I didn't know any better. And I didn't ask enough questions, and neither did my husband. But anyone who's been totally sick with wd's ... which by the way, the clinic told me to come that way.. .which I found weird... they wanted me withdrawing from my meds and sick when I arrived.) knows that thinking clearly or rationally is a tough one when your in that state. My husband did ask some questions, but they weren't the right ones...
Anyway. I hope that maybe helps you see why I ended up on the sub. Perhaps I should have tried to stay and taper on the lortab, but it was extremely painful. I haven't had that with the sub. I know many of you say I will feel it mentally, the wd's are bad ... with depression etc. I haven't had that YET. I pray I don't. But I can assure you, even with all the nastiness here... I will seek assistance with that part of it HERE if I should find myself struggling with it.
And I do appreciate your opinion. I do. But this is also where the 'you don't know me" thing comes in. Before the kidney stones... I was the type of person who would NOT take pain meds for a tooth ache or having dental work done. I would take over the counter Tylenol. I would not take a script from the dentist. The only time I've taken pain meds is with the kidney issues and the stents. Because I just could not bear (bare?) it. So hon, everyone is different. This is why I kept getting so frustrated. While you found yourself wanting to take the pills for every little pain, I don't have that same desire. That does NOT , AND I REPEAT... it does not make me any better than you. I do not think that for one minute. Please oh please don't take it that way.
Anyway.. I hope maybe this sheds some light on things. I apprec... gosh, my hands are not working right now... I do appreciate your last post. The tone was much different. Thank you for that. It would be nice if we could all be civil here. I have gained so much from being here.
Perhaps you should keep your overly drawn out posts to private messages.
LOL....Oh believe me....it is tempting...now perhaps you should read the link I provided.
NOW I AM bit angry b/c I dont deserve to be addressed as you have addressed me...I didn't insult you, put you down, or critique your posting style. Perhaps learn to have an educated discussion rather than resorting to put downs, eh?
Maybe YOUR posts are a bit too short. ;0)
LOL....Oh believe me....it is tempting...now perhaps you should read the link I provided.
NOW I AM bit angry b/c I dont deserve to be addressed as you have addressed me...I didn't insult you, put you down, or critique your posting style. Perhaps learn to have an educated discussion rather than resorting to put downs, eh?
Maybe YOUR posts are a bit too short. ;0)
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