Methadone. cut off at 40mg

[outlawzmjc]

Hello people. im 21 years old and have been doing Percocet/Oxy Contin 80's since i was in Grade 9. I was doing all those drugs up until about 1 year ago. I got onto the methadone program with my Girlfriend (She was doing the same **** as me and went to get on methadone) I got up to 100mg. When i went to see my doctor he suggested i come off 10mg every 2 weeks. It has been 4DAYS off cutting cold turkey off of 40mg of methadone ALL because there were no doctors to give me a perscriptiion. The last couple days is damn near impossible to sleep, i toss and turn all night IT *****!. Anyways i just wanted to know what im in for.(If anyone else has stopped at 40+mg) I already have EXPLOSIVE Diarrea, constant chills all over my body, cant sleep, always feel like my stomach is turning, and i even am getting Extreme sneezes (dont know if its cause of methadone). i would be still on methadone right now if a doctor was in, but itll be a little bit more than a week till they get "back" from vacations or w/e the **** they do. What i have to help me is Clonidine .1mg (i think) im supposed to take 3 at night to help me "Sleep".... it doesnt work so I Smoke Mary J everyday. For some reason i dont like to be in a "Normal" state of mind, i like to have a buzz constant. but know that my lil girl is getting bigger (3yrs) i want to get off all this **** and live a normal life without drugs. ANY TIPS TO GET THROUGH THIS??? For some reason i think that its only gonna get worse.

[Cirul]

Hi there I've been on the methadone program for 2 years and over 10 years on painkillers and heroin before getting on the program. I got up to 85mg and started tappering 4mg a day felt fine then I got down to 40mg and just stopped going. Day 1 and 2 isn't bad cuz liquid methadone stays in your system for up to 48hrs. Day 3-7 was the worst I didn't want to get out of bed. Somehow I still had my appetite but yes I did get the hot/cold sweats, restlessness, sneezing alot, and diahrehha. Yes it sucks but I'm on day 9 and I'm feeling alot better now. I'm still don't feel fully recovered but I feel fine I'm moving around and eating everything in sight. Everyone is different tho alot of it is mental your anxiety kicks in and makes things worse especially not getting any sleep. Try not to think about it to much. Take some Tylenol or Ibuprofen pain reliever don't take any not even weak painkillers to where it could set you back from your recovery. Good luck and God bless

[Trissy32]

Trissy32
Oml!!!! Please please please please please , do not tell me all this . I have read every single thing answered to your question as well as frig I'm gonna be like jumping off of 30 myself and I'm down to 35 now be 30 mg Thursday or Friday one an I already dread it cause of what I'm already feeling from tapered and now look when I'm get to 30 mg after a week I'm in fir it Comn off 30 mg...
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[outlawzmjc]

damn didnt see your post before. i think i would trade a methadone withdrawl for 5 days of any other withdrawl :/

[Trissy32]

Oml!!!! Please please please please please , do not tell me all this . I have read every single thing answered to your question as well as frig I'm gonna be like jumping off of 30 myself and I'm down to 35 now be 30 mg Thursday or Friday one an I already dread it cause of what I'm already feeling from tapered and now look when I'm get to 30 mg after a week I'm in fir it Comn off 30 mg...

[JimmyC333]

can I come live with you for awhile once I get down to 10 or 5 mg of methadone...lol,,,Ive only been on 40mg for abit over a month! well its methadose now but same thing, so Im on 4 mg or whatever.Ill pay you and maybe it will save my life! I live in Vancouver BC...email me...***@****

[gnarly_1]

hi welcome to the foum well I feel a lot like you do about the clinics but for some they do save lifes dont get me wrong im not pro methadone I was on the stuff for 6 1/2 yrs and dosed up to 150mg it waas ruff coming off and I like you was sick for months you need to feed your brain what it needs to heal for 15 bucks at walmart you can pick up whey protein shake mix you mix it with milk the chocolate flavor is good and it will give your brain the building blocks of what it needs to heel cheep its got ecential amino acids in it as well as vitamins along with the extra protein your brain needs to hel drink 2 a day till you start feeling better ....I only wish I found this stuff soner in 2 mo you can cut down to 1 a day give it a try And i couldent agree more you should have never been put on methadone now more and more people with pill problems arew going this rout and where having to detox them off methadone....a lot harder to do then the DOC would have been good luck post back when your feeling better.......Gnarly

[angiedabomb]

Hey, how you doin?  I had something tell me it was only going to get worste too when i came off 50mg cold turkey.  For some reason, methadone has scared the **** out of me when i realised it controlled my life, as well as my death. There is something wrong with this drug, its like it rots you from the inside.  I would go at the clinic everyday, and i was absolutely clean from everything and they never had my drinks or the right dose ...they played with me alot like that...i had my doctor go on vacation and was cut off  too ...thats when i decided they werent gonna play with my life like this...so if you ask me, methadone  is a dangerous poison handed out without a care and without warning, and it kills you the minute you start taking it.  im ten months clean from it, and im still really sick, and because i came off cold turkey, but ill kill myself before i go back on it and let them think they can control me like this. And trust me, once your on methadone, you are a useless member to society in their opinion, so they dont care who they hurt or kill in the process..all they cre for are statistics and numbers. If you think methadone is to help you, you are dead wrong. Its to minimise crime and control lives. Thats how the system work. Not to mention metjadone was invented by hitler, an evil man who wished everybody dead.  What is realy wrong here, is that i was given methadone and i shouldnt have because i was using oxys for two months ...and its suppose to be an heroin or heavy use of narcotics... They are not being carefull with this drug and reality is that methadone is sold on the streets and sooner or later, it will be just as accesible as anything els and ruin the lives of many other inocent people.  Instead of offering you a poisonous drink, they should just offer you a bullet...since we are hopeless people in their opinion anyway.  What amazes me, is that nothing is being done to stop this...no one is fighting this and its wrong ...absolutely wrong!!!  Its just a control game, havent any if you felt like you were going to paralyze when you stopped? I did, and i feel like im fighting off a major stroke all the time.  Regardless, im fighting this because i feel like i was murdered, but god just isnt ready for me...i havent served my purpose yet, but let me tell you, i feel like blowing up every meth clinic i see....why not? We are nothing but useless drug users to them anyway...knowledge is power, power is control, and control is just one big ******* lie...i believe in freedome, and when i hear methdone, i smell ******** in the whole health care.  imagine half the world on methadone ten years from now? Wow! Lets all cut them off ...new world order alright

[angiedabomb]

Hey, how you doin?  I had something tell me it was only going to get worste too when i came off 50mg cold turkey.  For some reason, methadone has scared the **** out of me when i realised it controlled my life, as well as my death. There is something wrong with this drug, its like it rots you from the inside.  I would go at the clinic everyday, and i was absolutely clean from everything and they never had my drinks or the right dose ...they played with me alot like that...i had my doctor go on vacation and was cut off  too ...thats when i decided they werent gonna play with my life like this...so if you ask me, methadone  is a dangerous poison handed out without a care and without warning, and it kills you the minute you start taking it.  im ten months clean from it, and im still really sick, and because i came off cold turkey, but ill kill myself before i go back on it and let them think they can control me like this. And trust me, once your on methadone, you are a useless member to society in their opinion, so they dont care who they hurt or kill in the process..all they cre for are statistics and numbers. If you think methadone is to help you, you are dead wrong. Its to minimise crime and control lives. Thats how the system work. Not to mention metjadone was invented by hitler, an evil man who wished everybody dead.  What is realy wrong here, is that i was given methadone and i shouldnt have because i was using oxys for two months ...and its suppose to be an heroin or heavy use of narcotics... They are not being carefull with this drug and reality is that methadone is sold on the streets and sooner or later, it will be just as accesible as anything els and ruin the lives of many other inocent people.  Instead of offering you a poisonous drink, they should just offer you a bullet...since we are hopeless people in their opinion anyway.  What amazes me, is that nothing is being done to stop this...no one is fighting this and its wrong ...absolutely wrong!!!  Its just a control game, havent any if you felt like you were going to paralyze when you stopped? I did, and i feel like im fighting off a major stroke all the time.  Regardless, im fighting this because i feel like i was murdered, but god just isnt ready for me...i havent served my purpose yet, but let me tell you, i feel like blowing up every meth clinic i see....why not? We are nothing but useless drug users to them anyway...knowledge is power, power is control, and control is just one big ******* lie...i believe in freedome, and when i hear methdone, i smell ********.

[angiedabomb]

Hey, how you doin?  I had something tell me it was only going to get worste too when i came off 50mg cold turkey.  For some reason, methadone has scared the **** out of me when i realised it controlled my life, as well as my death. There is something wrong with this drug, its like it rots you from the inside.  I would go at the clinic everyday, and i was absolutely clean from everything and they never had my drinks or the right dose ...they played with me alot like that...i had my doctor go on vacation and was cut off  too ...thats when i decided they werent gonna play with my life like this...so if you ask me, methadone  is a dangerous poison handed out without a care and without warning, and it kills you the minute you start taking it.  im ten months clean from it, and im still really sick, and because i came off cold turkey, but ill kill myself before i go back on it and let them think they can control me like this. And trust me, once your on methadone, you are a useless member to society in their opinion, so they dont care who they hurt or kill in the process..all they cre for are statistics and numbers. If you think methadone is to help you, you are dead wrong. Its to minimise crime and control lives. Thats how the system work. Not to mention metjadone was invented by hitler, an evil man who wished everybody dead.  What is realy wrong here, is that i was given methadone and i shouldnt have because i was using oxys for two months ...and its suppose to be an heroin or heavy use of narcotics... They are not being carefull with this drug and reality is that methadone is sold on the streets and sooner or later, it will be just as accesible as anything els and ruin the lives of many other inocent people.  Instead of offering you a poisonous drink, they should just offer you a bullet...since we are hopeless people in their opinion anyway.  What amazes me, is that nothing is being done to stop this...no one is fighting this and its wrong ...absolutely wrong!!!  Its just a control game, havent any if you felt like you were going to paralyze when you stopped? I did, and i feel like im fighting off a major stroke all the time.  Regardless, im fighting this because i feel like i was murdered, but god just isnt ready for me...i havent served my purpose yet, but let me tell you, i feel like blowing up every meth clinic i see....why not? We are nothing but useless drug users to them anyway...knowledge is power, power is control, and control is just one big ******* lie...i believe in freedome, and when i hear methdone, i smell ********.

[outlawzmjc]

i got maybe an hour of sleep last night..i even got that melatonin ****...it didnt do anything at all, and i took 6mg. do i need to take more...i need my sleeeep

[outlawzmjc]

i got maybe 2 hours of sleep last night, i feel like i just want to run away and take the easy road and get back on methadone. But i know if i do that i will just be going through what i am now again some other day. Time to suck it up i guess cause there is no turning back for me. TheEagle ive checked that protocol. lots of info thanks.

[OnOxyfor10yrs]

Darn, your endurance and ability to sustain constant pain is not normal. I am not being funny here at all. How in the he77 do you do it?????

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

I am willing to bet that you havent looked into the Amino Acid Protocols yet??  Would be worth while for you......At rt hand side of page find the box that says Health Discussions ----  Then look for the Amino Acid Protocols and read them ..... lot of good stuff there ....  and if you arent reading too fast -- you will want to pay close attention to the amino tyrosine ....  functions similar to a stimulant --- will help wth energy problems though.....   Learn as much as you can about this stuff -- knowledge is power and you cannot have too much knowledge about your enemy ................

[outlawzmjc]

i feel so WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no energy.

[Kova]

i agree with kim.  took about 6 weeks to feel good again, with some good days and bad days towards the end.  i think for me the worst of the physical stuff were days 5-10.  

[kim715]

I went c/t off of 25 mgs.As far as the people here who have done it,I think I went off of one of the lower doses.Most people here who have gone c/t have come off a much higher dose then me.There is no danger in the detox,as long as there are no underlying medical conditions,but thats the case no matter what you're detoxing from,with the exception of alcohol and benzos.Going c/t off of either of them poses a risk no matter what.Research actually indicates that there is virtually no difference in coming off of 40 mgs or coming off of 4,depending on how long you've been on it of course.And I gotta tell you,loving myself,believing in a higher power those are exactly the 2 things that got me through.It was 6 weeks before I can actually say I began to really feel better,but I made it, and I'm thankful everyday.

[Kova]

I know!  i mean, 5-7 days of hell with the others, at least you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.  the methadone WD are so tricky too, because as you know, you have good days and bad ones, so just when you think it's all over you get hit again!

Kova

[kim715]

Kova,I was just saying that to someone today about the methadone w/ds.I think what makes them so rough is not that their that much more intense but that they last so much longer then the w/d from other drugs.

[Kova]

Also, as for the methadone WDs being "extremely severe", for me i would say that the only truth in that is that they do last longer, but everything else is pretty much the same.  actually, i have detoxed off of a bag of heroin a day for a week, and those withdrawals were much worse but only lasted about 5 days.  but the physical and emotional WDs from heroin were i think even more extreme(only after 1 week of use!), and i did it without any help of other meds or even amino acids.  my husband was a hard core heroin junkey for 6 years, and he came off cold turkey without any other meds as well.  don't get me wrong, methadone was no picnic, but for me at least they were not the worst of what i have experienced, just the longest.

Kova

[Kova]

How can you say that it is impossible when all of us here are living proof that it is very very possible.  how is it dangerous?  have you heard about somone dieing fron methadone detox?  i know people personally that have jumped off of a much higher amount than myself at 40mg, and they are alive and well to tell about it.  just wondering where you got your information.

Kova

[kim715]

I know you say your on methadone at the present time.Have you ever completely detoxed from it before?

[christos24]

im in shock, thats extremely dangerous and any professional would say thats virtually putting yourself through the worse hell imaginable. i am extremely proud and glad to hear eagle that you were able to do that, but for the other 85% of ppl that is just not possible at all. many ppl have attempted and will attempt it, but willpower is not even a percentage of the factor taht plays in getting off successfully off of methadone. theyre are hundreds of factors taht play crucial roles in actually getting off. like i said that is unbelievable that you were able to do that and that is an accomplishment you can tell for the rest of your life, but for most any higher power, loving yourself on the inside will not hold you over going cold turkey from methadone, with wd;s lasting well over a month and getting worse everyday. you are extremely lucky to be the 1% that have been able to say that, but everyone is different and they need to do what is right and works for them..christos

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

Whomever thinks that going cold turkey at 40mg is impossible ..... I have some premium ocean front land outside Tampa - its there every day at low tide...Are you intersted in purchasing as an investment?

And I quit from 85+ mg cold turkey ------ wasnt fun but I thank my God every day that I did it .............................................

[christos24]

going cold turkey from 40 mgs is impossible. ive been in a methadone clinic for a little over 5 months and am at 95 mgs and am comfortable. i ahd tried suboxone and it worked well for a while but iw as taking the absolute ceiling effect dose at 32 mgs  day, meaning i couldnt go any higher, an higher and i would actually have severe withdrawals, so methadone has been an extreme help with my sobriety, but i would never consider going cold turkey from 40 mgs. you ned to go to a clinic and not go through getting prescriptions, that can elad to abuse and taking more and more, cuz after talking it for mroe than a week you barely have that opiate effect cuz it builds in your system and stays for a long time. you could possiblly go down to 30 mgs and switch over to suboxone and taper off that. both are hard and not fun to withdrawal from, but i know alot of ppl who have done that and have had success. most methadone clinics only drop you down 2 mgs at a time, never more than 40 mgs so thats very extreme, i can imagine the terrible hell youre going through and i wish that upon no one. you need to fine the nearest clinic and get on that program its cheap and effective in helping you stay sober and recover.clonidine and benzos will hlep, but methadone withdrawal doesnt last a week or two like most other opiate wd's, it last at least  a month if not a lot longer and theya re extremely severe. you need to go back to 40 mgs and taper down slowly its the only way...-christos

[outlawzmjc]

You guys sound like you know your stuff. i checked out that thing, ima try some of the things on there. thanks alot.