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My daughter is an opiate addict!!
My daughter22yrs old is addicted to opiates. Perks is her drug of choice. She used to snort them but now she is shooting up. She showed me the track marks. I have been hearing rumors for some time but had no proof. Till she finally confessed. I have been raising her daughter for over a year now because of her addiction. She told me she wants to stop but doesn't want the sickness. She has an appointment with a Methadone clinic at the end of this month.What I want to know is if methadone works or is it actually worse. I have heard it is worse than the opiate addiction. But I am not even sure if she is serious or not cause she has said this stuff to me before. Anyone have any advice would be appreciated.
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You have a reason to be concerned, meth is nothing to play with the consequences can be deadly as you well know. Remember though that many addicts who turned to meth did turn there lives around. There is always hope out there and it sounds like you are doing all you can. You can't keep kicking yourself in the butt, you can only do so much. The ultimate outcome lays with your daughter and her alone. But having kids myself, I understand your grief and pain. I had one son that turn to pot in his early yrs in college and until about 6 months ago when I started to clean myself up from the pills did he finally admit he had never quit smoking it. He went to a NA meeting with me when I got my 30 day token and he said from that day on after listening to others talk about their addictions that he finally decided to give it up. I was disappointed that all those yrs he had not been open with me, but the fact that he finally did and said he was finished that is all that matters. He and I talk openly with each other about our addiction now and its hard to believe that we both finally know what is most important in our lives and that is our family. I only wish for the same outcome and one day I do think it will come for you. Stand strong and firm with your daughter, but love her all along.
I know this post is two yrs old but I really wish I could get in contact with you . I have a very similar situation with my daughter 24 she lives with me and has a baby that will be 4 on may 1st she was in a bad car accident a yr ago i allmost lost her broke her neck in two places bone sticking out of arm etc............ three nights of sleeping outside ICU she had everything in her system when accident happened meth heroin and a morphine patch on thank god she didnt hurt anyonelse and thank god the baby was not with her My daughter is a very good charmer Its like she has a whole other life and its a very dark one. It scares me like nothing else ive ever experienced. She has a philosphy that as long as youre not messed up when your kid is around its ok I know right now she is doing percs again and i dont really know what else. She is capable of taking care of her daughter she does it but i worry that is not her first priority as it should be its so scarry If you or anyone with similiar story would like to talk my email is :***@**** my name, Cheryl God Bless all
Me and my daughter has always been blessed with an open relationship. Sometimes to the point I want to put my fingers in my ears and make blabla sounds to drown out the info I really don't want. But it is a blessing all and all.sometimes she sugar coats stuff but the truth comes out in the end. I am just at a crossroads where I kow I need to stop enabling, yet its hard to turn off the mommy button. I just beed to be there if she needs an ear to talk or a shoulder to cry, but financially I need to turn off the tap. She can't spend all her money and expect me to keep her in her home, pay her rent elect, food, house supplies ect. I don't want her on the streets but I also need to quit picking up the pieces. I am raising her daughter and running my own household, I can't keep her and her boyfriend in their own home, when they don't even attempt to do it themselfs.they buy their fixes and the heck with anything else. I am rambling but I think you can see where I am coming from.
She is just now in the process of talking about getting clean. She has an appointment at a meth clinic next week I am hoping she goes. She doesn't live with me so our contact is limited to a couple days a week. What is b ad about this is that she lives with another addict and I am worried about the fact that this may just be a lot of smoke and no real plan in getting clean. She may be just looking for a cheaper high. It really has me concerned. I keep hoping for some miricle but right now I am very sceptical.cause I could see them both using opiates on top of the methadone and the consequences could be very bad. Thank you for you reply.any insight is helpful. And kudos to you on your recovery.:)
I take suboxone and I don't know much about methadone but I do know that methadone does not have a opiate blocker in it. I have friends who take methadone and the high they say if similar to other opiates like percs, hydro, and etc. There is another medicine that has the same main ingredient as the suboxone called subutex that does not have the opiate blocker in it, It works the same as suboxone but does not have nalaxone it that suboxone does. I have been taking suboxone for about 2 months and I feel really good right now. I know that one day I will have to come off of it but I am not going to worry about that for now. I am building a good aftercare program for when that day does come.
How is your daughter doing? It is very hard to stop using opiates and it can be a very long process. I choose the suboxone because I was tired of that nasty foggy headed feeling and just wanted to be normal. I am as normal as I can be right now with the suboxone.
The suboxone just makes me feel normal. I do not get high from it and if not for putting that strip in my mouth twice a day no one would ever know I am taking anything. My mind is clear and I am in the present. I wish for you that your daughter could be in the same.
It is hard for family to watch us go threw what we do even to get clean. I almost lost my husband and I did lose my job to those monster little pills I stuck in my mouth many times a day. Have you tried going to Alanon? It would help you understand more and learn not to enable your daughters drug use. I am sure she is a very good person underneath the drugs. The monster takes us over and the hold is strong, it takes a lot of very hard work and sickness to overcome them. I am 51 and was addicted and am addicted to most painkillers (opiates) Started out for legit pain and when I tried to stop I couldn't.
I hope you find that thing that works for your daughter, and when you get her back keep talking openly about the feelings that you both have and learn to work together to control cravings in the future. I am sure I am no help and I am just rambling, but wanted to offer you something positive.
How is your daughter doing? It is very hard to stop using opiates and it can be a very long process. I choose the suboxone because I was tired of that nasty foggy headed feeling and just wanted to be normal. I am as normal as I can be right now with the suboxone.
The suboxone just makes me feel normal. I do not get high from it and if not for putting that strip in my mouth twice a day no one would ever know I am taking anything. My mind is clear and I am in the present. I wish for you that your daughter could be in the same.
It is hard for family to watch us go threw what we do even to get clean. I almost lost my husband and I did lose my job to those monster little pills I stuck in my mouth many times a day. Have you tried going to Alanon? It would help you understand more and learn not to enable your daughters drug use. I am sure she is a very good person underneath the drugs. The monster takes us over and the hold is strong, it takes a lot of very hard work and sickness to overcome them. I am 51 and was addicted and am addicted to most painkillers (opiates) Started out for legit pain and when I tried to stop I couldn't.
I hope you find that thing that works for your daughter, and when you get her back keep talking openly about the feelings that you both have and learn to work together to control cravings in the future. I am sure I am no help and I am just rambling, but wanted to offer you something positive.
I have a question about methadone? I was wondering is the buzz the same as say perks, oxy, ect. And also can you use other opiates with methadone and feel their effects. I read that suboxin has an opiate blocker does methadone? Or am I looking at an od in the near future?
Thank you for the contact info I will check into some local resorces for her. God bless you!
Get ahold of Russ at Miracles Happen in Wheeling (304) 242-0217.
I'm pretty sure that Miracles Happen is a men-only residential place, but Russ will know every possible resource in that area. He's been in Recovery himself for 30+ years and is just an amazing man. I met him by telephone in May of 2005 when I was in real trouble and in person in 2007 (or 08) when he gave a lead at the Fellowship Home in Charleston.
CATUF
1958
I'm pretty sure that Miracles Happen is a men-only residential place, but Russ will know every possible resource in that area. He's been in Recovery himself for 30+ years and is just an amazing man. I met him by telephone in May of 2005 when I was in real trouble and in person in 2007 (or 08) when he gave a lead at the Fellowship Home in Charleston.
CATUF
1958
Thank you for your answer, I wish she would just hone up in her house and go ct, but all she talks about is how bad her sickness is when she can't get her fix. I understand what she is saying but I also know it will pass. She has had what is called cotton sickness 5 times in the past couple months, she has hep c I think, and she is showing signs of jaundice again. I just wish she would have the sickness from getting clean instead of all the sicknesses from her using! Just makes no sense to me.
I am in the northern panhandle.The bad thing with it all is the fact that she doesn't have insurance.And a lot of the programs up here just detoxs and releases. Its very fustrating to say the least. And I know if she started getting the sickness she would just sign out of a program and go use again. That is what she told me and I can't force her into anything cause its all voluntary.
Where in WV are you? There are lots of recovery resources in the Mountain State - but some have more than others. I got clean and sober in the eastern panhandle in 2005 and have stayed clean and sober in the Kanawha Valley.
No matter how your daughter gets to "clean" (ct, taper, suboxone, methadone, jail), the more important thing will be finding some program of recovery and sticking to it.
Eventually she will need to want to stay in recovery and be willing to go to any length to do so. However, I do not believe that is true initially. In 2005 I was forced into recovery - i didn't want it and I didn't think it would work for me. I thought my life was pretty much over and I just wanted people to leave me alone until it was. It did seem vaguely sad to me that my life was ending in such a hopless mess, but . . . .
I go to two meetings a week these days at the Sheriff's Day Report Center and have come to know a number of people who were forced into recovery by the Judge of Drug Court. I've seen some amazing changes in some of the people in that program - I've watched as the living-dead have been slowly restored to life.
It's not hopless for your daughter and she doesn't have to do it alone. Help is out there.
CATUF
1957
No matter how your daughter gets to "clean" (ct, taper, suboxone, methadone, jail), the more important thing will be finding some program of recovery and sticking to it.
Eventually she will need to want to stay in recovery and be willing to go to any length to do so. However, I do not believe that is true initially. In 2005 I was forced into recovery - i didn't want it and I didn't think it would work for me. I thought my life was pretty much over and I just wanted people to leave me alone until it was. It did seem vaguely sad to me that my life was ending in such a hopless mess, but . . . .
I go to two meetings a week these days at the Sheriff's Day Report Center and have come to know a number of people who were forced into recovery by the Judge of Drug Court. I've seen some amazing changes in some of the people in that program - I've watched as the living-dead have been slowly restored to life.
It's not hopless for your daughter and she doesn't have to do it alone. Help is out there.
CATUF
1957
Oh I feel so bad for you - no mother should have to endure that.
Although I never advocate the use of maintenance drugs such as suboxone or methadone, I understand that often we must choose between the lesser of the 2 evils. I hope that the suboxone will help your situation with your daughter - but please understand that suboxone is not a safe drug and it can be abused, the withdrawals can be severe and long-lasting for some and the doctors tend to use very high mg. even though they could achieve the same results with less.
I just wanted to offer you my perspective of suboxone, others can offer you different perspectives - but perhaps it will work well for you. It will provide your daughter with a counselor and give her the chance to work through the addiction and get on the road to recovery.
Very best of luck to you, I wish you and your family the best.
Peace
Although I never advocate the use of maintenance drugs such as suboxone or methadone, I understand that often we must choose between the lesser of the 2 evils. I hope that the suboxone will help your situation with your daughter - but please understand that suboxone is not a safe drug and it can be abused, the withdrawals can be severe and long-lasting for some and the doctors tend to use very high mg. even though they could achieve the same results with less.
I just wanted to offer you my perspective of suboxone, others can offer you different perspectives - but perhaps it will work well for you. It will provide your daughter with a counselor and give her the chance to work through the addiction and get on the road to recovery.
Very best of luck to you, I wish you and your family the best.
Peace
Well talked to my daughter about the methadone, so she is going to check out a suboxin clinic instead. I just hope she does something soon cause if not I know I am going to be buring her. Which is not how it should be. No parent should have to bury their child!!!
Yes I do want to get my daughter back, She is so deep into her addiction that she doesnt realize half of what she has done to everyone around her. I asked her if the clinic actually has therepy involved with the methadone and she said yes so that is a plus. I am going to try and direct her into aa or na if she will go. She needs a sponser. Cause I understand her addiction with what I have read but I have never had it. H@ll I dont even drink!!!LOL! I continue to hear alot of negative about the methadone, which I will talk to her asap about. Cause I honestly think she wants off the drugs in some way but she enjoys the high too much. Which is a shame.She is a good person under all her addiction. Thank you for your answers everyone and I will keep posting to keep you all up to date and even just for my own sanity. Cause with this and the acholic in the other room I am ready to scream. Thanks again.
Oh dear Lord this is so sad. Your daughter is still in there, but the addiction disease has taken over her life. SHE has to WANT to be sober more than anything in life before you'll see a change. Her confession was a small step in the right direction, and in your shoes I'd be skeptical too. Honestly, I don't see your daughter being successful while living with a man who is using.
Methadone IS an opiate, and it's a strong, long-acting opiate. The idea behind methadone maintenance is harm reduction. It helps get the person get off street drugs and hopefully ends harmful behavior like prostitution and stealing. Meanwhile, the patient is supposed to work a recovery program. Without that work, addiction is still in control.
As so many people here have said, detox is only the beginning, and using is only a symptom of addiction. If you had cancer, would you only treat the symptoms? Addiction is no different. I pray that your daughter will someday understand that and push hard for her recovery. She just might surprise herself - and everyone else in her life. :-)
Methadone IS an opiate, and it's a strong, long-acting opiate. The idea behind methadone maintenance is harm reduction. It helps get the person get off street drugs and hopefully ends harmful behavior like prostitution and stealing. Meanwhile, the patient is supposed to work a recovery program. Without that work, addiction is still in control.
As so many people here have said, detox is only the beginning, and using is only a symptom of addiction. If you had cancer, would you only treat the symptoms? Addiction is no different. I pray that your daughter will someday understand that and push hard for her recovery. She just might surprise herself - and everyone else in her life. :-)
I pray ever night for her to recover from her addiction. But over the past year I have watched her become someone I don't know. She has stolen and alienated herself from the entire family even stole from her 2 year old daughter. Lost all her old friends, and now she hangs with dealers and users. She s stripping for a living and now I am hearing she is doing prostitution. She is spiraling out of control. God blessed her once and pulled her from death after a horrible atv accident.3 brain surgurys and half her head is titanium. I honestly don't know if she is going to get so lucky this time.Sorry if I sound cynical and cold but it is very fustrating!!
Thanks for the advice and that is what I thought about the methadone. What also makes it bad is that she lives with her boyfriend who is also banging. I have told her because of reading this site that the best way is ct. She just shrugs me off and tells me I have no idea what it is like(wd) which is true. The next time she is at my house I will try to get her to read this site. For me its better than any alanon meeting out there.It really has helped me understand addiction in many ways. I just hope she will save herself before its to late.
HI welcome to the forum....first off im sorry to here about your daughter perc's are popular with the kids these days kinda like pot was 30yrs ago....I really feel for you I am not only an addict but raised one also and it almost put me in my grave my daughter hit the streets at 13 as a meth/crack addict and its no fun watching them ruin there live...if your doaghter is slamming a needle in her arm then methadone is better then that...I was on methadone for 6 1/2 yrs and normally dont recommend it....the withdrawal hands down is as bad as it comes
and eventually you will want off it and the recovery takes months...I would tell your daughter this...you can suck it up and be sick for about a week...flu like symptoms with some added anxiety..if after you try and it dosent work out then go to methadone just tell her it should only be used as a last resort....there is no get out of jail free card here...the methadone will take away the cravings and put your addiction on hold it will give you time to seek out treatment like N/A or a/a most clinics have consoling also but just be honest with her about the withdrawal....I tapered for 8 1/2 mo to soften the blow went threw 2 weeks of he!! was sick the rest of the first month...the second month I remember telling my conslor that I should be farther along then I was...it wasent till I hit about 90 days that I started to even feel better.......I have helped a lot of people get off methadone and this is very typical of how it goes...print this and give it to your daughter to read....coming off of oxycodone is only gonig to take her a 5 day week mabe no sleep for 2weeks but it will be a cake walk compared to detoxing from methadone...I wish you all the best with your daughter....I hope she finds it in herself just to quite....if you can get her on here to read a bit it may ez her mind good luck and God bless......Gnarly
and eventually you will want off it and the recovery takes months...I would tell your daughter this...you can suck it up and be sick for about a week...flu like symptoms with some added anxiety..if after you try and it dosent work out then go to methadone just tell her it should only be used as a last resort....there is no get out of jail free card here...the methadone will take away the cravings and put your addiction on hold it will give you time to seek out treatment like N/A or a/a most clinics have consoling also but just be honest with her about the withdrawal....I tapered for 8 1/2 mo to soften the blow went threw 2 weeks of he!! was sick the rest of the first month...the second month I remember telling my conslor that I should be farther along then I was...it wasent till I hit about 90 days that I started to even feel better.......I have helped a lot of people get off methadone and this is very typical of how it goes...print this and give it to your daughter to read....coming off of oxycodone is only gonig to take her a 5 day week mabe no sleep for 2weeks but it will be a cake walk compared to detoxing from methadone...I wish you all the best with your daughter....I hope she finds it in herself just to quite....if you can get her on here to read a bit it may ez her mind good luck and God bless......Gnarly
i can;t give you much advice but to let you know i will be praying for you, i too am suffering opiate addiction with perks, i only take them as they were perscribe and a little more but i know how hard it is and to let you know there are great people in here she needs support and love and things will get better just have faith and pray.
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