No question - just a hug to all

[stannab]

I think that everyone n this forum has tons of courage.  Seems as though getting off is killer but, staying off must be very difficult.  That is the part that scare the **** out of me.  going through all of the pain to w/d and then relapse.  I would love to hear from all of you about relapse.  How to stay clean????  After I go through this hell to get off I NEVER want to go through it again.
stannab

[Bob641]

Hi, and thanks for your kind words.For me the hardest part is getting off actually, I just am a bit weak dealing with withdrawal symptoms, which in my case thy get complicated with bad migraine,muscle cramps and anxiety, I can deal with the anxiety and muscle cramps, but the migraine is a killer and I always have to rely in Imitrex or something strong to make it go away.
Staying out of it is not big deal for me, believe or not. About 4 years ago I got detoxed in a hospital after having a seizure(and I had other one about one year earlier for trying to stop my DOC)due to the lack of my DOC at the time, it was Fioricet and I took around 14 pills a day for about 6 years. After that I never had cravings neither stop to think about the drug or the effect it produced in me.
Same thing is happening now with Vicodin 5/500mg and Tramadol 50mg, I took the first one for about 1 year 2 to 4 pills a day and the 2nd one for about 2 years the same
amount. I quit cold turkey about 15 days ago and I'm having withdrawals effects but not cravings or desire to take them even if I have some left, I won't take them.
Keep strong,
Bob

[gizzy32]

Relapse is very painful and causes many on a downward spiral and overwhelming feelings of guilt and shame. I was the king relapser and all i know is each time it gets harder and harder. Everyone has their own way of staying clean. For me now i use this forum for aftercare and have a few close friends i can talk to that help a lot. Staying clean is tough, but once you make those couple changes and learn from your mistakes then it becomes easier. I do believe to stay clean some type of aftercare is needed, but i am an addict and that's what i need to STAY clean. If you chose to never go through this again and stick to your plan, then you won't ever relapse, cause it's our choice now. Best of luck to you.