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OxyContin/Codone addiction :-(
Hello This is my first post, but ive been reading posts for the last week or so. Heres my problem,
Im 19 and Ive been taking Oxycontin/codone 5mg(codone) and 20(contin) for about a year now... the First time i tryed them i took 40mg and boy was i sick as a dog.. Now heres where it starts to get interesting and i would like to know if anyone else can relate to this...
I have always been a drug user since ive been about 13 or so.. but anyway i started stealing my dads oxy's about winter time of this year , i took them just for kicks of course and knew NOTHING about them at the time.. i Soon figured out that these pills made me a brand new person.. at the time i started i was suicidal everyother day and severely depressed and was glad i found oxy right in my own home, and was glad i could kill myself at any time... well soon enough obviously all depressing feelings went away, and OXY made me Very emotional about everything.. I often VOMITED every other time i took OXY.. But anyway that slowly went away as my body got used to it i suppose .. and once i stopped feeling sick from them is when i realized i might have an addiction problem.. i Am now Addicted to a steady 30mg a day or somtimes more depending on how high i want to get/boredem.. even though i dont get that high for long.. my high lasts about 30-45 min and im not talking about crushing them or anything of that nature.. well basicly the point of this post is to Give you a little background info and my main questions are How long does your high last? did you vomit for teh first couple months? I have more to post! THX
Im 19 and Ive been taking Oxycontin/codone 5mg(codone) and 20(contin) for about a year now... the First time i tryed them i took 40mg and boy was i sick as a dog.. Now heres where it starts to get interesting and i would like to know if anyone else can relate to this...
I have always been a drug user since ive been about 13 or so.. but anyway i started stealing my dads oxy's about winter time of this year , i took them just for kicks of course and knew NOTHING about them at the time.. i Soon figured out that these pills made me a brand new person.. at the time i started i was suicidal everyother day and severely depressed and was glad i found oxy right in my own home, and was glad i could kill myself at any time... well soon enough obviously all depressing feelings went away, and OXY made me Very emotional about everything.. I often VOMITED every other time i took OXY.. But anyway that slowly went away as my body got used to it i suppose .. and once i stopped feeling sick from them is when i realized i might have an addiction problem.. i Am now Addicted to a steady 30mg a day or somtimes more depending on how high i want to get/boredem.. even though i dont get that high for long.. my high lasts about 30-45 min and im not talking about crushing them or anything of that nature.. well basicly the point of this post is to Give you a little background info and my main questions are How long does your high last? did you vomit for teh first couple months? I have more to post! THX
By the way...the link to that group page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OxyHeads/?yguid=112175585 I hope to see you there soon
Hi hilliard...you had aske about a forum where you could talk about your addiction with others who aren't currently in recovery. There is a group in Yahoo! Groups called OxyHeads. It's a good group of folks and you'd be more than welcome to talk about any and everything relating to your Oxy (and other opiates) use. hope this helps.
<I have so many holes in my blanket from nodding off with a cig in my hand>
Whoa, that brings back some memories. I have some real nice blankets that are swiss cheese, and are a constant reminder of the state I was in.
Are you an addict or a pain patient? Do you abuse your prescriptions to get high? How do you ingest your OC's?
Whoa, that brings back some memories. I have some real nice blankets that are swiss cheese, and are a constant reminder of the state I was in.
Are you an addict or a pain patient? Do you abuse your prescriptions to get high? How do you ingest your OC's?
Before you completely go off your meds, please talk to your doc about other solutions. You have been through a lot and must have severe pain. Maybe you have a spouse or friend who can just give you the meds when you are supposed to take them. I am praying for you. You are not alone. We are here for you.
ok...this is my first time every posting anything like this. But by reading some of your comments it's kool to find others like myself, however I wouldnt put this on anyone!!! Ive been on Lortabs 5-7-10's since 1991. Now for over a year Ive been on Oxycontin and Lortab. I would get 80's from one doc and 40's from another. Its time to stop. All this has occured from a bad car accident where I died 3x and was in a comma for 2 mos. but my neck broke also along with my hip and femer. I gotta a lot to live for and these pills are killing me now. Ive had 3 spinal surgeries on my neck and my surgion wants to now fuse my skull to my spine.....but Im not going to let him because once I can get off this sh*t I dont want to go back. I have an appointment with my primary doc this morning cuz I cant handle these withdrawls. The cold skin, but hot inside, sweaty, clammy, legs cramping, not sleeping, chest pains.....my god who knew that this would cause so much pain. I was taking the meds for the pain, but now they are causing too much pain and panic in my life. My tolerance got so high that I was going thru about 8-10 OC 80mgs a day. Its a wonder I havent burnt my house down cuz they make me chain smoke and I have so many holes in my blanket from nodding off with a cig in my hand. Ive gotton to the point where I cant even get up off the couch or bed to do anything. Oh and the stress, I wouldnt even know how to cope with stress sober right now. Anytime anything would go wrong, or whatever, there was another excuse to pop a pill or two or three or whatever. So, you all wish me luck today, for I am going to try to start getting my life back, sh*t.....just have a life of some sorts would be nice right now. Best of luck to you who are trying as well or those of you who know that you need to try......just remember, you are not alone in this fight!!!
hooked bad
hooked bad
I sweat more on OC's than I did detoxing of of them. When I was using them (I remember being at one 80 a day and going through this), I would need to sit in front of a fan for 10 minutes just to cool down b4 getting dressed. The sweating goes away after a month or so.
hey, this is my first time on here and I have read some of your comments.This oxy is very bad stuff,believe me my dad who is 62 got on it by a doctor giving him 65 80mg a month, plus alot of more pain medicine. He has had back pain for about 20 years now after surgery. I can not tell you all the heck I have been through with this man. My mom passed away three years ago and believe me this is like a nightmare. I feel for anyone who is hooked on this medicine. I have done everything thing I know to get my dad help and I feel as I am hitting my head against a brick wall. All I can say is I hope all of you will try to get off this medicine before it is too late. My dad has nothing not even a dollar in his billfold. No one every tells you how bad something is till it is too late. I will pray for all on this medicne and hope God answers some of my prayers.
the sweats and the restleg are the worst....the sweats are a killer! in fact, I'm thinking that WHEN i am "over" oxy, and clean (I'm in taper mode) it's going to be a problem for me ALWAYS....i.e. it'll come rushing back to me when I perspire for any reason......(sometimes I wonder, do i make sense or is it all just in my head?) have a good one.....E
I know i will have to quit eventually.. the heat is going down now where i live so i think winter is a fall is a better time to do W/D , because its not hot and the heat plus the sweat during the summer added to the huge amount the body makes you go through on withdrawl.
Hilliard:
welcome to the forum! there will always be room for just one more
junky in here, so come on in.
i read, and then reread your post with great sadness. i, like you
started using drugs when i was 13. by the age of 15, i was, like
you expiermenting with opiates. i finally seatled in to ripping off drug stores to support a ever growing habit. except for 17 years of clean time, i've spent most of my time until recently shooting all the dope i could get my drug addicted hands on. today i am 51 1/2 years old.
ya' know i never gave much thought as to what i would do if i ever needed an opiate pain killer like oxycontin for real physical pain! well today i do and i'm really screwed!! with the grace of god, an excelent pain doc and a really wonderful wife i have been able to slowly get my life back. unlike you, today i have to use oxycontin because of intractable pain.
you are still young enough, and your habit is light enough. now is the time to quit. sooner or later you will have to kick your
opiate habit. you may go a couple of weeks, or you may go a cou-
ple of years without stopping, but sooner or later everyone has
to kick for some reasion or another. now my point here is you
will be much better off if YOU pick the time and the place and not let fate pick it for you. where would you like to kick your
oc habit.... on the floor of a jail cell where you will be the
major amusement of other inmates and sadistic guards who won't
give a **** about your wellbeing! or maybe something a little safer...say a detox center or even your parrents house. believe me, you don't want to go the county jail cell route (i have). i kicked a 5-10 grain (300-600 mg) a day morphine habit on the floor (ya can't fall off the floor) of the county jail in johnson county iowa. believe me there are many place more comfortable and much, much safer too.
please keep posting and keep an angel on your shoulder--ok
kip
welcome to the forum! there will always be room for just one more
junky in here, so come on in.
i read, and then reread your post with great sadness. i, like you
started using drugs when i was 13. by the age of 15, i was, like
you expiermenting with opiates. i finally seatled in to ripping off drug stores to support a ever growing habit. except for 17 years of clean time, i've spent most of my time until recently shooting all the dope i could get my drug addicted hands on. today i am 51 1/2 years old.
ya' know i never gave much thought as to what i would do if i ever needed an opiate pain killer like oxycontin for real physical pain! well today i do and i'm really screwed!! with the grace of god, an excelent pain doc and a really wonderful wife i have been able to slowly get my life back. unlike you, today i have to use oxycontin because of intractable pain.
you are still young enough, and your habit is light enough. now is the time to quit. sooner or later you will have to kick your
opiate habit. you may go a couple of weeks, or you may go a cou-
ple of years without stopping, but sooner or later everyone has
to kick for some reasion or another. now my point here is you
will be much better off if YOU pick the time and the place and not let fate pick it for you. where would you like to kick your
oc habit.... on the floor of a jail cell where you will be the
major amusement of other inmates and sadistic guards who won't
give a **** about your wellbeing! or maybe something a little safer...say a detox center or even your parrents house. believe me, you don't want to go the county jail cell route (i have). i kicked a 5-10 grain (300-600 mg) a day morphine habit on the floor (ya can't fall off the floor) of the county jail in johnson county iowa. believe me there are many place more comfortable and much, much safer too.
please keep posting and keep an angel on your shoulder--ok
kip
kip I've got you by about two months on quitting the nicotine
(1-4-01). It was tough but doable. Three weeks in the hospital
with bacteriol pneumonia with a tube in my left lung got me going. It was almost like your w/ds on the jailhouse floor, no
smoking in the hospital and nowhere to hide with that tube
attached to me. This coming off a 21/2 pack a day 30 year habit.
Tom
(1-4-01). It was tough but doable. Three weeks in the hospital
with bacteriol pneumonia with a tube in my left lung got me going. It was almost like your w/ds on the jailhouse floor, no
smoking in the hospital and nowhere to hide with that tube
attached to me. This coming off a 21/2 pack a day 30 year habit.
Tom
I am sad for you, because you are young and have not yet seen what can happen to you with these drugs! I am 48, and only abused painkillers after 40 for back pain that I still have, but, am clean. You will hit rock bottom, you may lose your life, your friends, girlfriend or boyfriend because you willl get so caught up you will not think you need anybody to love you, just the drugs will be enough for a while. Stop now! Listen to me! I left my husband and wish I could turn it around, but, is too late. He worhiped the ground I walked on, but, I did not tell him about mydrug use until I felt I was queen of denial and wanted to live in peace. I am living in peace now. I live alone, and am lonely as hell. Don't become me! Throw thelast ones out and seek treatment. That feeling of euphoria only lasts a little while, after using for a few years they will literally make you sick. Please, I beg you! Take your life and family over the drugs. I love you. You are a fellow addict.
Hellbent, Thanks for giving us a glimpse into a day in your life back than. It scares me to death!!!! I have been taking OXY for a few weeks now, as my doctor changed me from Vic's because I have chronic back pain, and have 2 monthes until I can go under the knife. He started me on 20mg twice a day. After 10 days I wasn't getting enough pain relief, so he switched me to 2-40mg a day(8-28). I have to go back to the doc now as I can't sleep(wired), and I have gotton sick(puke) a couple of times(It's like my body shuts down and doesn't digest the food I eat). I guess my body can't handle OXY. With the way it keeps me up at night, I can't imangine how you could've fallen asleep with that much in your system.
Congrats on kicking your habit and getting your life back together. Your story with the amount you were doing was unbelievable. If it makes you feel better talking about it, you have my ear. It's like a scared straight story. Peace!!!!
Congrats on kicking your habit and getting your life back together. Your story with the amount you were doing was unbelievable. If it makes you feel better talking about it, you have my ear. It's like a scared straight story. Peace!!!!
Hillard, to answer your question. I do not smoke. I quit in October of 1999.
"Jack"
"Jack"
(It's like my body shuts down and doesn't digest the food I eat).
That's exactly what happens. Opiates slow your digestive system way down. Food digests at a snails pace, you get constipated and usually gain weight. The constipation thing is a real health problem. From what I have read, your body doesn't absorb minerals in that state, and all kinds of other problems can occur, including colon cancer and ruptured intestines, which I think is what Elvis died from. I used to take laxatives, but the best thing I found was grape juice, tons.
That's exactly what happens. Opiates slow your digestive system way down. Food digests at a snails pace, you get constipated and usually gain weight. The constipation thing is a real health problem. From what I have read, your body doesn't absorb minerals in that state, and all kinds of other problems can occur, including colon cancer and ruptured intestines, which I think is what Elvis died from. I used to take laxatives, but the best thing I found was grape juice, tons.
I think most of us have been where you are: Feeling euphoric on opiates, and not wanting the ride to ever end. Not a damn thing anyone said early on would have changed my mind either. But, this is generally a place for people who have been through the whole addiction cycle, and have come out the other side or are trying desperately to.
You know that your tolerance will increase, that you will need more and more to feel good, that you will have a terrible monkey on your back, that when you finally quit (and you will finally quit, or die using), you will have a terrible experience. You will never be the same after using these things long term. Make sure to enjoy it now, because this stuff changes the cells in your body after being on em' for a bit. You are in for a long life of being an addict, whether you are using or not.
And don't get too cocky about being able to kick anytime. My experience is that many people go back one too many times and never get clean. They die with a needle in their arm perhaps, or on the streets, or both. Recovering from hard drug abuse is not a forgone conclusion. It's like a rubber band. It'll stretch and snap back for awhile, then the rubber band will break, and there is no making it snap back again.
Is this the "vibe" you are looking for? Probably not I'd wager. Go check out the alt.drugs.hard newgroup. I frequented it for years when I was in utter denial and wanted to talk about the great things that Oxycontin was doing for my life.
You know that your tolerance will increase, that you will need more and more to feel good, that you will have a terrible monkey on your back, that when you finally quit (and you will finally quit, or die using), you will have a terrible experience. You will never be the same after using these things long term. Make sure to enjoy it now, because this stuff changes the cells in your body after being on em' for a bit. You are in for a long life of being an addict, whether you are using or not.
And don't get too cocky about being able to kick anytime. My experience is that many people go back one too many times and never get clean. They die with a needle in their arm perhaps, or on the streets, or both. Recovering from hard drug abuse is not a forgone conclusion. It's like a rubber band. It'll stretch and snap back for awhile, then the rubber band will break, and there is no making it snap back again.
Is this the "vibe" you are looking for? Probably not I'd wager. Go check out the alt.drugs.hard newgroup. I frequented it for years when I was in utter denial and wanted to talk about the great things that Oxycontin was doing for my life.
thanks again! to answer some of you.. i considerd telling my parents.. but im not sure thats such a good idea.. i dont want to stir the pot really.. Ive for now decided to just take oxy till i can no longer get it.. its a horrible addiction but, it really helps me.. ive built new social skills from being on it ect ect.. and to answer the question about the low amount of OXY i take , i do usually take just enough to get high for 30 to 45 min then just let it stay in my body so to keep me "normal" until night before i go to sleep.. i know 30-50 mg a day of OC is little compared to others. but thats just because im not making my dose larger as to get more high, so thats why im able to stay at that level.... i hope that makes sense for some of you.. before i was aware of my addiction, i took random amounts of OC from 5 a day which i was on for many months which i only took in the morning before school but i started to take 10 eventually.. so i dont use a lot of it to get more and more high... i started use of it on a daily basis because it helped me cope more then any other solution i was trying... i was very shy before.. but now im outgoing towards people ect.. i believe this is a combonation of matureing and the oxycontin use.. Tonight while i was on Oxy i went to a big event called bumbershoot here where i live and was able for pretty much the first time in my entire life to approach girls i didnt know and start a conversation.. now some of you may laugh , but for me it was a HUGE step. im actullay very proud of myself.. My psych calls this my Oxy abuse an ill attempt at self medication.. while that is true in one light , it is also better then any antidepressant ive ever been givin.. some of those such as celexa, mind you just one 20mg pill of that stuff will make me more high then almost any amount of Oxy... but of course in a much much differnt way.. the high i get from my celexa is almost comparable physicaly to withdrawl.. while mentaly that of being very very high strung..
Well anyway i just wrote a lot about nothing sorry for rambleing .. i just had to tell someone... PS i hope the mood on this board supports both current users and users trying to quit.. if its only the trying to quit mood, ill be sad and leave you people alone, but if its both thats good to know... ill be fine either way.. but please tell me which way it is!~!! sorry im very new to talking about this! thanks bye
Well anyway i just wrote a lot about nothing sorry for rambleing .. i just had to tell someone... PS i hope the mood on this board supports both current users and users trying to quit.. if its only the trying to quit mood, ill be sad and leave you people alone, but if its both thats good to know... ill be fine either way.. but please tell me which way it is!~!! sorry im very new to talking about this! thanks bye
hi and welcome. no one here will tell you to leave because you are getting high, however, this is a recovery forum. most people here are either sober or trying very hard to get that way.
in the 50's they used opiates as antidepressants. did you know that? i have to agree with you that opiates can "seem" to work much better than typical antidepressants. i say "seem" because initially that might be true - if you keep taking opiates, and eventually you will have to increase your dose to get high, it will not give you the same happy feelings.
most addicts will admit that they keep trying to get back that great feeling (high) they got when they first started using. you can never get it back. your usage is so low right now, and i pray that you will stop now. all addicts can probably tell you when they hit rock bottom. i can. these "happy" feelings and your feeling more outgoing IS NOT going to last. don't you see? that is how these little pills get to us. everything starts out wonderful, but then once your hooked, it turns around and you end up chasing a high you'll never get again. you keep using just to feel normal. you know. you've read about it here.
please think some more about quitting. it is only going to get harder - that is fact. we will all be here to help you.
in the 50's they used opiates as antidepressants. did you know that? i have to agree with you that opiates can "seem" to work much better than typical antidepressants. i say "seem" because initially that might be true - if you keep taking opiates, and eventually you will have to increase your dose to get high, it will not give you the same happy feelings.
most addicts will admit that they keep trying to get back that great feeling (high) they got when they first started using. you can never get it back. your usage is so low right now, and i pray that you will stop now. all addicts can probably tell you when they hit rock bottom. i can. these "happy" feelings and your feeling more outgoing IS NOT going to last. don't you see? that is how these little pills get to us. everything starts out wonderful, but then once your hooked, it turns around and you end up chasing a high you'll never get again. you keep using just to feel normal. you know. you've read about it here.
please think some more about quitting. it is only going to get harder - that is fact. we will all be here to help you.
i understand! and i am addicted, ive gone four days without them before and it did not feel good... but i could do it again.. BTW i dont know if you saw but ive been on these for almost a year.. 8 months now .. this isnt a recent thing!.. anyway here i am at 430am cleaning my whole apartment.. i keep getting cleaning urges at the early morning hours .. ill eventually go to sleep and wake up tomorrow around 4 or 5 in the afternoon .. what a life! but i am honestly looking forward to the coming College QTR! that correct my erratic sleep cycle... BTW is there any fourms for people currently taking OC and others like it.. and want to quit but want to continue with them.. if so id love to be directed towards them... im feeling that the only responses im going to get here is to gett off them, and thats sorta making me uncomfortable.. sorry but its just the vibe im getting.. - hill
i just want to talk about my addiction.. not talk about quiting it... thats 100% up to me, and i would inform you all when that will happen.... but again i JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT BEING ADDICTED TO OXY AND THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF A EVERYDAY OC USER!
it's the vibe you're getting, because this is a "recovery" board. you found this place, because you must have searched "recovery" or "addiction."
i'm sorry if you aren't happy with the responses you are getting. however, it would be in your best interest to listen to what those with experience have to say. we (they) are only trying to help you.
at 19, i never thought i'd end up where i am today - believe me. i was in college, living large and having a blast. i wouldn't have listened either - you came here on your own though, so i have to believe that some part of you knows you need to stop...now.
anyway, i don't know of a board where drug abusers hang out, but i bet it wouldn't be too hard to find one. you found this place, so with a little searching, i bet you can find what you are looking for...although i hope you don't...i don't think you need any encouragement in the wrong direction right now.
think about it, and if you decide you want help, we'll be here...take care:)
i'm sorry if you aren't happy with the responses you are getting. however, it would be in your best interest to listen to what those with experience have to say. we (they) are only trying to help you.
at 19, i never thought i'd end up where i am today - believe me. i was in college, living large and having a blast. i wouldn't have listened either - you came here on your own though, so i have to believe that some part of you knows you need to stop...now.
anyway, i don't know of a board where drug abusers hang out, but i bet it wouldn't be too hard to find one. you found this place, so with a little searching, i bet you can find what you are looking for...although i hope you don't...i don't think you need any encouragement in the wrong direction right now.
think about it, and if you decide you want help, we'll be here...take care:)
"anyway Im getting ready to quit.. ive done a couple of test runs (48 hours)and its very very bad.... the Sweating id have to say is the worst part.. especially the way it makes my skin feel.. anyway i have 14 20mgContins left and im planning on trying to taper them over 3 weeks then stop cold turkey, so at best my withdrawal will only be short hopefully."
those are your words...that's what you are getting a response from me about. i thought you were asking for help with quitting...not maintaining.
those are your words...that's what you are getting a response from me about. i thought you were asking for help with quitting...not maintaining.
comment by hilliard:
"... anyway Im getting ready to quit.. ive done a couple of test runs (48 hours)and its very very bad.... the Sweating id have to say is the worst part.. especially the way it makes my skin feel.. anyway i have 14 20mgContins left and im planning on trying to taper them over 3 weeks then stop cold turkey, so at best my withdrawal will only be short hopefully..... .. WELL THANKS GUYS AND GALS I HOPE THAT ALL MY QUESTIONS GET ANSWERD!! THANK YOU!!!i hope to befriend a couple of you or more! thanks! :) :)"
I thought by your above statement, that you were wanting to taper and then quit. Then you said that you didn't want to quit, but continue on with using? I think that the confusion here was the fact that you expressed a desire to quit, then changed your mind, or is that what happened?
I have to completely agree with groovy. You will get support here, but you have to understand that for those of us who are REALLY battling (I'm in a really vulnerable state right now after just getting another prescription for Norco then throwing it away) this and need to find a safe haven like this forum to come to to help us continue on with sobriety, it's not easy to read all of the justifications of using narcotics. Man, did I ever use all of those justifications! I still do -- like, my house is SPOTLESS all of the time, I work out daily (and intensely - great for my health!), I'm much more talkative/outgoing, of course my mood is highly improved -- there are so many. But it does come down to the fact that all of us here know that maintaining sobriety is the only way to go. Personally, I didn't get off to counting pills, avoiding withdrawals, having to take a pill before any social function just to function, fighting tolerance, worrying about health effects, waking up feeling like ****, mood swings, draining my finances, etc. I wasn't born with a bottle of pills in my hand, and I know that it's an unnatural state of existence, but hey, that's my own rationale right now.
Good luck to you in whatever you decide.
"... anyway Im getting ready to quit.. ive done a couple of test runs (48 hours)and its very very bad.... the Sweating id have to say is the worst part.. especially the way it makes my skin feel.. anyway i have 14 20mgContins left and im planning on trying to taper them over 3 weeks then stop cold turkey, so at best my withdrawal will only be short hopefully..... .. WELL THANKS GUYS AND GALS I HOPE THAT ALL MY QUESTIONS GET ANSWERD!! THANK YOU!!!i hope to befriend a couple of you or more! thanks! :) :)"
I thought by your above statement, that you were wanting to taper and then quit. Then you said that you didn't want to quit, but continue on with using? I think that the confusion here was the fact that you expressed a desire to quit, then changed your mind, or is that what happened?
I have to completely agree with groovy. You will get support here, but you have to understand that for those of us who are REALLY battling (I'm in a really vulnerable state right now after just getting another prescription for Norco then throwing it away) this and need to find a safe haven like this forum to come to to help us continue on with sobriety, it's not easy to read all of the justifications of using narcotics. Man, did I ever use all of those justifications! I still do -- like, my house is SPOTLESS all of the time, I work out daily (and intensely - great for my health!), I'm much more talkative/outgoing, of course my mood is highly improved -- there are so many. But it does come down to the fact that all of us here know that maintaining sobriety is the only way to go. Personally, I didn't get off to counting pills, avoiding withdrawals, having to take a pill before any social function just to function, fighting tolerance, worrying about health effects, waking up feeling like ****, mood swings, draining my finances, etc. I wasn't born with a bottle of pills in my hand, and I know that it's an unnatural state of existence, but hey, that's my own rationale right now.
Good luck to you in whatever you decide.
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