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Anyone up? Really bad emotional day, it ***** not being high
Tramadol is Xanax right? I had a problem with hydrocodiens idk if they have the same withdrawals. Well I slept great last night I told my fiancée we go out and I made reservations she got home and I was passed out at like 7pm and slept till like 5 am. Haha so ofcourse I woke up with a lot of energy but my brain was saying sit down. So I'm watching the (the rifleman with chuck Connors, and listening to my girl nag it's a splendid morning. Anxiously awaiting college football!!
How are you doing? I feel your pain. I too have the same problem with tramadol. I miss my kids. I know our relationship has changed because I decided to put tramadol before them. I want to stop, need to stop..... Please keep me posted on your journey. I am so scared.
He texted me from a random number I told him I was done with those. Mille I said I can't avoid not ever hearing about them or seeing them places I go. Mine has to do with will power, you can steal those from your parents if you wanted them. I just remember being a lot and I mean ALOT better off at this point last time (first time I detoxed) but this second time is worse than last time that's for sure..getting close to 21 days still having issues. Last time by 14 days I was fine. Weird how it's harder each time I can only imagine the people on there 4th or 5th detox. Ya but weed is weed all the old school people say that, the only diffrence now days is knowing how to grow better to get better weed. You can still find your regular out door grown weed (70's style) just everyone like the high THC more for your money. Just take less hits. Idk I'm not going to smoke anymore for awhile unless it's highly needed. Been fine today though a lot of yawning and boredom, just been sitting around, somedays I have the will power to get up and work out and do stuff other days I just want lay down all day.
Marijuana is not like it used to be; in my day (1970's) it was 10% THC (approximately)...now, its' upwards of 40%. And I know why you didn't get could sleep. It suppresses REM sleep. That's the deepest level of sleep, when you dream, and go through Rapid Eye Movements (REM.)
Honey, I gotta ask you: Why are you still in contact with the dude you bought hydro's off of? DELETE HIM. You're on a slippery slope. You aren't going to get better all at once. 19 days is not a long time, even though it feels like it. Are you in an aftercare program? Therapy?
I'm on day 35 and I am STILL NOT NORMAL. I'm still coughing constantly, sneezing so much I keep pee'ing my pants (thought that might give you a laugh) my eyes and nose water constantly, my heart races, and I'm so anxious sometimes I just want to scream! BUT. BUT, BUT BUT. I will NOT put another addictive drug in my body. I just won't. This is MY LIFE and I get to live it----clean, sober, feeling everything.
We aren't in this life for peace. We're in this life to feel, to experience joy, sorry, happiness, sadness, but most of all (and this is just one woman's opinion) to help others. How can you help others if you're high?
It's too early in your sobriety to tell if you can handle the occasional toke. And texting your dealer is dancing with the Devil. Please think about this.
Good luck, sweetie. God Bless.
-Robin
Honey, I gotta ask you: Why are you still in contact with the dude you bought hydro's off of? DELETE HIM. You're on a slippery slope. You aren't going to get better all at once. 19 days is not a long time, even though it feels like it. Are you in an aftercare program? Therapy?
I'm on day 35 and I am STILL NOT NORMAL. I'm still coughing constantly, sneezing so much I keep pee'ing my pants (thought that might give you a laugh) my eyes and nose water constantly, my heart races, and I'm so anxious sometimes I just want to scream! BUT. BUT, BUT BUT. I will NOT put another addictive drug in my body. I just won't. This is MY LIFE and I get to live it----clean, sober, feeling everything.
We aren't in this life for peace. We're in this life to feel, to experience joy, sorry, happiness, sadness, but most of all (and this is just one woman's opinion) to help others. How can you help others if you're high?
It's too early in your sobriety to tell if you can handle the occasional toke. And texting your dealer is dancing with the Devil. Please think about this.
Good luck, sweetie. God Bless.
-Robin
Well yesterday was day 18 and I decided to smoke a little weed. I know some of you all say don't substitute one drug for another so.though I have to say i was laughing and felt good my body aches were gone felt great to be short. Then when bedtime came I was tossing and turning all night slept like ****... So I will say it was good for everything but sleep, for most of us sleep is the biggest factor so I'm hesitant about smoking it again. The main reason I picked yesterday to smoke was because one of the guys I get hydrocodiens from texted me he had some. The whole time it was in my head there's hydrocodien right up the street. I smoked was laughing eating watching tv felt fine forgot all about that text. Then at like 10pm I started to fall asleep then I went to bed and tossed all night so idk why it did that. I got to say the weed saved me yesterday. So thankfully I'm on day 19 going on 20,I will say this someone said on another forum "Xanax,Valium,weed,alcohol etc etc is helping you through withdrawals but your not leading into a sober life" that post stuck with me. I took a little Xanax at night to help with sleep (which it did) for like 6 or 7 of those nights. Now I haven't taken any Xanax in 3 or 4 days, and I don't feel the want for them so no addiction to them. But I've been clean off opiates for 19 days and only about 10 of those days was I actually sober off everything. I'm just rambiling now but I got a lot of irritability this morning so. Y'all have a good day
I just wan to mention that there is a long list of drugs that folks use to substitute for a drug they preferred to take daily. These include benzos, sleep meds, methadone, and suboxone.
When you can get through a day without any mind altering substances...that is a sober day, in my opinion, and it's how many of us have approached recovery. Major illness or trauma that requires medication is an exception, of course.
When you can get through a day without any mind altering substances...that is a sober day, in my opinion, and it's how many of us have approached recovery. Major illness or trauma that requires medication is an exception, of course.
I just wan to mention that there is a long list of drugs that folks use to substitute for a drug they preferred to take daily. These include benzos, sleep meds, methadone, and subonone.
When you can get through a day without any mind altering substances...that is a sober day, in my opinion, and it's how many of us have approached recovery. Major illness or trauma that requires medication is an exception, of course.
When you can get through a day without any mind altering substances...that is a sober day, in my opinion, and it's how many of us have approached recovery. Major illness or trauma that requires medication is an exception, of course.
You are getting some great advice so far. You are doing awesome! Great job! I, too, want to caution you that using other substances will get you nowhere. When I went into rehab the first day, they asked me a lot of questions. At one point, I told them I had smoked pot the night before to try and sleep. Then at another point I told them I had been drinking a glass of wine every night to take the edge off the withdrawal.
The staff said, "So, you are substituting one drug for two other drugs?" I got it right then. I had not viewed it that way. I was substituting one drug for another. That is so self destructive. My addictive personality did not want me to be substance free. I could not fathom a world substance free. Now, here I am sober.
Keep up the good work friend!
The staff said, "So, you are substituting one drug for two other drugs?" I got it right then. I had not viewed it that way. I was substituting one drug for another. That is so self destructive. My addictive personality did not want me to be substance free. I could not fathom a world substance free. Now, here I am sober.
Keep up the good work friend!
I do not like trazadone. i have found doxepin to be wonderful for insomnia. It is prescription only, but it is not narcotic. I am doing great on it, and I had very bad insomnia before I started using. I was using Ambien before the Doxepin. I thought that nothing else would work. I wish I had known.
Gabapentin is used to treat seizures. I was given it at detox because I was using a benzo as well as the hydrocodone. I have never heard of gabapentin being prescribed for opiate detox. Hmmm. Strange. Unfortunately, it does not have an effect on your energy level. You really don't notice it at all.
Thank you so much for the advice and encouragement Gunner- you're doing amazing and your story is helping so many.
Well, you're doing great...look how far you've come! You seem very insightful, and very aware, which will help you a lot!
I'll be cheering you on, along with the others!
I'll be cheering you on, along with the others!
I understand what your saying, those comments were my addiction and high seeking state of mind, when I'm bored I do think of other things like drinking. I tell myself once you have a couple months sober then you can have beer every now again. I only tell myself that cause the thought in my head " never being high again" really messes with my head. Yes I know Xanax is a touchy thing but I was just saying what I did. I'm not trying to get people to take Xanax but it's what I did to ease a little. Although I knew my mind will want to develop an addiction to any other drug id take so I was careful with it. I understand what your saying completely.. Thank you for your comment please keep commenting as the others thank you so much I know its crazy to think 18 days is 3 hours away. The diarrhea is back but everything seems okay now, boredom at times and stress about thats life but laughter and all those good emotions are back as well so the good over rides the bad for me now. Talk to you all soon
I got to hand it to you, buddy....you've put your mind to it, and look how far you've come already! Kudos to you! Keep up the great work, JUST be careful, you HAVE to be mindful of that addict voice in your head. It will deceive you, try to trick you, and lie to you. Some of the things you're saying kind of indicate to me that that voice is sneaking through.....
"Though I know it's all about will power, but this morning was just like in my head "you went 12 days good job, see you can quit now take a couple it will end the BS and it will be a good high". "
" If I don't start having some Grown up fun though I'm going to lose it I got to like treat myself to the bar once a week or something."
Now, obviously, the first quote is nothing you would miss as your addict brain talking to you, which is good. It's the second quote that IMO represents that more subtle, vague kind of thinking...addict thinking. Not everyone views "adult" fun as something that requires a mind altering substance, you know? It's going to be that kind of ingrained thinking that's tough to overcome...and that is vital to staying on top of...to protect your recovery/sobriety.
PLEASE be careful with the Xanax too. A lot of people DO truly have no problem using a benzo sparingly to help them through their detox, and never look back. Plenty of other people find themselves with a new problem, which they would have never imagined.....so again, just be cautious.
You should be very very proud of yourself, you're doing amazing. Keep up the great work, and keep posting! Best of luck to you.
"Though I know it's all about will power, but this morning was just like in my head "you went 12 days good job, see you can quit now take a couple it will end the BS and it will be a good high". "
" If I don't start having some Grown up fun though I'm going to lose it I got to like treat myself to the bar once a week or something."
Now, obviously, the first quote is nothing you would miss as your addict brain talking to you, which is good. It's the second quote that IMO represents that more subtle, vague kind of thinking...addict thinking. Not everyone views "adult" fun as something that requires a mind altering substance, you know? It's going to be that kind of ingrained thinking that's tough to overcome...and that is vital to staying on top of...to protect your recovery/sobriety.
PLEASE be careful with the Xanax too. A lot of people DO truly have no problem using a benzo sparingly to help them through their detox, and never look back. Plenty of other people find themselves with a new problem, which they would have never imagined.....so again, just be cautious.
You should be very very proud of yourself, you're doing amazing. Keep up the great work, and keep posting! Best of luck to you.
How much and how long were you on? I basically used Perc's and Oxycodone mostly off and on for 10 months and then every day for two months escalating to about 200 - 250mg's a day for the final two weeks. I have to say I feel lucky (day 11 / going on 12) and all the physical wd's are gone - never really had gastro issues which is weird..... Insomnia was the biggest issue which caused serious fog and fatigue but after a good slumber last night I am starting to feel better. Feel far from my old self but hopeful that will come with each passing clean day.
I am 21 days clean off percocets. It was a rough ride, but def worth it. my energy is slowly coming back, but at least the withdrawals are mostly gone. The upset stomach and and weird stools were the worst. Good luck to all.
Congrats to you! Keep it up! I feel like we are following a similar trajectory and I'm just a few days behind. Finally slept decent last night (night 10). Crashed at 8 and didn't get out of bed until 6!!!! Woot woot! So for those who are reading, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SLEEP AGAIN!!!! Because believe me, I was beginning to wonder!!!
Why couldn't we all just be stoners? Haha weed would have been a lot better alternative shoulda sticked to that. It's been 4 years since I smoke weed to, I'm getting curious ha. I think once I get to the one month mark ima smoke a litte chronic. Lol yall are thinking this guy is weird haha. Anyways I woke up felt good went to work for 9 hours then I worked out HARD at my new gym ran 6 miles it was TUFF. Then took my son and my girl to eat again tonight had some cedar plank salmon with rice and corn, it was so good I haven't had diarrhea all day so that might be the end of that " fingers crossed" staying occupied keeps my mind off withdrawals even though every now and then I crave the pill but it doesn't last long. I just got home now on the couch ready to get tired. To the person that's on "day 10 going on 11" congrats my turning point with sleep was on my 14th night so maybe it will be for you hang in there, the no sleep is one of the worst parts.Also to sheelie I'm glad these comments are helping you like they are me, the mood swings Is defiantly a problem I know I had a short fuse for awhile. Just take your daughter to dinner and the park (if she's young enough) i know it sounds like to much but once you get out there you'll think "alright I just got to do this and that then I'm back home" you'll end up forget about the withdrawals while your out your minds off of it. Plus you get credit for hanging with your kid, take her to do something she wants to do (if possible) if you want to make up for going off on here and you'll end up feeling better about it. I'm not the one that should be telling people what to do I'm on day 17 now (which isn't out the blue) so taking advice from me isn't a gurantee thing but it did work for me.. Every now and then when Anxiety is bad and you can't sleep il take a bit of Xanax or even nightquil since it's like the flu to help with the allergies and sleep issues. Just make sure don't take Xanax a lot cause it's addictive. Honestly I hate Xanax high but take .25mg which isn't much but it will help with sleep a tad atleast it did for me. I haven't had to use it in 4 days now but for those first two weeks it helped. Now I'm getting natural sleep and parden my french but **** yesss haha. I'm slowly but surely winging off these pain killers. I know (PAWS) will come later on if it hasn't already so I know I'm not clear yet but starting to be normal again, no more restless legs or insomnia I have my appetite back, energy to do things to the full extent
Reading all of these responses has given me some hope. I'm a mother of two and on day 3 of Tramadol withdrawal. I was on about 250-300mg a day for about two years. I feel awful- not so much physically but completely emotional and psychologically.
I'm craving the pills. I'm am emotional wreck- I lasted out at my poor 9 year old son yesterday because I just feel so bad and then I felt awful for that so spent all evening crying.
I've not gotten out of bed today yet. It's all I can do to keep myself from calling my doctor to beg for more pills. I pray this goes quickly. I just was tired of being dependent on a pill to be happy.
I'm craving the pills. I'm am emotional wreck- I lasted out at my poor 9 year old son yesterday because I just feel so bad and then I felt awful for that so spent all evening crying.
I've not gotten out of bed today yet. It's all I can do to keep myself from calling my doctor to beg for more pills. I pray this goes quickly. I just was tired of being dependent on a pill to be happy.
Way to go Gunner! Congrats on 16 days! I have been reading and following your post as I'm currently on through 10 working on 11 days and it's great to hear that the sleep does actually come back! That's been the worst part for me so far! Other than that I feel very lucky! Keep it up!
Thank you all for the replies, wasn't sure anyone was on anymore. Anyways day 16 today!!! Anyways I will look into aftercare very soon and go check it out a few times and see what it's all about.. Yesterday was a lot better I went to work at 8am left at 2pm it was a slow day but it kept me occupied. Then I signed up for a gym so I could start focing myself to workout to my girl and kid to dinner then when I got home I watch Monday night football and crashed hard I got a good 8 hours of sleep. I'm so sore from the gym right after dinner I was rushing him to the toilet haha I had to go. Anyways about to head to work again today,maybe if I repeat this it will keep me occupied and my mind off drugs and working out makes me so sore but it does help me sleep at night. Atleast it did last night hoping it does today. Again all of you thanks for the reply I read all of them multiple times it does give me ideas and state of mind. So please keep it up I want someone to relate to. To "never again" your making me feel good that I wasn't on oxy I heard there a lot stronger so I can only imagine how your first month was but you got through a month so that's ******* awesome!!!! Congrats I got 2 weeks before I'm at your point so, if I were you is feel good about that 2 weeks isn't **** compared to a month. Talk to you all soon hopefully..
Hi honey...listen, you are doing really well, but you need to think about aftercare. There are online meetings you can attend, but talking to other folks about why you developed this addiction is really, really important.
Taking away the drug is the first step, but you got high every day for 2 years for a reason. That reason is still inside of you. I hope i am not being too harsh...I just want to NEVER see you go through this again.
Just for the record, I was on a much stronger drug (oxy) and I'm at day 32. I still feel crappy. My heart rate is fast, I have restless legs, and I feel like a deer in the headlights. NOW what do I do with the rest of my life...---that kind of feeling.
BUT. I will never, ever, EVER go back and take opiates again. I don't have another recovery in me. The past 30 days felt like climbing a steep hill. I turned a corner at day 16. It got me SO MAD when I'd read on the internet that "the worst symptoms usually subside in 3-5 days." LIES!
You are so young...you have your whole life ahead of you. I know that sounds like a cliche but it is true. Face this demon in you that wants to get high. 'Cause there is a good chance its going to come back and slap you upside the head when you least expect it. Life is full of curveballs..you will face stressful, scary times, when you don't feel like you have the emotional resouces to handle things, and there is your grandparents medicine cabinet with a bunch of little white answers.
Be a role model for your son...GO to a meeting. I went to AA for 5 years before I even started taking opiates (I was dating a guy who had long term sobriety.) It's a GREAT group. Now...I say that with a disclaimer. Some groups really suk. Full of what I call "AA-Nazis"...folks who insist that if you can't do exactly as they say, you're not sober. If you change ONE word of the sereneity prayer, you're a loser. 90 meetings in 90 days or you won't make it. Screw those people.
Go a dozen AA meetings and just observe. Listen. Find one that speaks to you...because you will.
Honey, you are younger than my youngest child so I know what I'm talking about. Stopping the drug is only the first step. Finding out why you took it is just as important.
I'm pulling for ya, sweetie. Bless you.
-Robin
Taking away the drug is the first step, but you got high every day for 2 years for a reason. That reason is still inside of you. I hope i am not being too harsh...I just want to NEVER see you go through this again.
Just for the record, I was on a much stronger drug (oxy) and I'm at day 32. I still feel crappy. My heart rate is fast, I have restless legs, and I feel like a deer in the headlights. NOW what do I do with the rest of my life...---that kind of feeling.
BUT. I will never, ever, EVER go back and take opiates again. I don't have another recovery in me. The past 30 days felt like climbing a steep hill. I turned a corner at day 16. It got me SO MAD when I'd read on the internet that "the worst symptoms usually subside in 3-5 days." LIES!
You are so young...you have your whole life ahead of you. I know that sounds like a cliche but it is true. Face this demon in you that wants to get high. 'Cause there is a good chance its going to come back and slap you upside the head when you least expect it. Life is full of curveballs..you will face stressful, scary times, when you don't feel like you have the emotional resouces to handle things, and there is your grandparents medicine cabinet with a bunch of little white answers.
Be a role model for your son...GO to a meeting. I went to AA for 5 years before I even started taking opiates (I was dating a guy who had long term sobriety.) It's a GREAT group. Now...I say that with a disclaimer. Some groups really suk. Full of what I call "AA-Nazis"...folks who insist that if you can't do exactly as they say, you're not sober. If you change ONE word of the sereneity prayer, you're a loser. 90 meetings in 90 days or you won't make it. Screw those people.
Go a dozen AA meetings and just observe. Listen. Find one that speaks to you...because you will.
Honey, you are younger than my youngest child so I know what I'm talking about. Stopping the drug is only the first step. Finding out why you took it is just as important.
I'm pulling for ya, sweetie. Bless you.
-Robin
So proud of you all! Everyone is trying so hard and that's what
Counts!!! So sorry for you who lost ur husband! Let me know if I can help! I'm feeling ok so far just a few stomach cramps and hate dealing with some people and issues sometimes hah! Anyway that may be just me! Lots of
Luck to everyone
Posting and I love ya all!!!
Counts!!! So sorry for you who lost ur husband! Let me know if I can help! I'm feeling ok so far just a few stomach cramps and hate dealing with some people and issues sometimes hah! Anyway that may be just me! Lots of
Luck to everyone
Posting and I love ya all!!!
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