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Please Help!! Need info on withdrawel symptoms!

Hi everbody ... i am new to all this ... i jst had herniated disc surgery this past july on my neck and am on all types of med. I jst recently lost my insurance so i have no way of getting any of my prescriptions. I've had to stop ALL my meds because i have no more and i thought i was getting the flu but i've been wondering if i could possibly be going through withdrawels. I'm on oxycotin, imatrex, midrin, zanaflex, effexor, ambien, lubriderm pain patch. I've been on all sorts of meds for over a year now ... they keep getting changed to this and that. Please can anybody help me. The past 3 days i've been running a fever, vomiting, diarrehea, sweating profusely, cold sweats, light headed, pretty much jst plain feeling like ****! Do any of these symptoms go along with medication withdrawel, and if so what do you do about it.... do you notify your dr., can he even help me get through it????????
      ANY response will be helpful ... and thank you for taking the time to read this!

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Good to talk to people who no what I no about painkillers. It is the worst to kick. I hate the weakness worst of all. I can't even get out of bed without taking 3. I have kicked it 5 times only to get right back where I was. I have kids so I have to stay strong. For those of you with no kids to take care of and no permanent job if your willing u can kick this at home. Stay on the couch and in the tub for about 7 days. Every part of your body hurts and feels nasty. For those of us who can't stop daily life it's hard. We have to tell someone. Suboxone has really saved me. You can kick it and still carry on your everyday life with those. I was taking about 12 Lortab 10s everyday just to keep from getting sick. I started looking like Elvis after a year or two of it. I will Pray for all of you and hope you will do it for me.
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If your a doctor....your a little late that question was asked 6 years ago....LOL

Will there be a co-pay ?
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I always shunned prescription narcotics until 4-24-01 when I awoke with severe pain all over my body.  I went to a rheumatologist who prescribed Vicodin ES.  It made me feel like I used to.  I think I had a reaction to my Hepatitis B shots.  After about 5 months eating Vicodin, they were no longer effective, and Dr. put me on OxyContin 10mg. tabs.  He felt that the time-release formula would be less addicting.  Well, the 10's lead to the 20's, and by June of 2002, I was up to 4 to 7 of these bad boys every day!  Then I would run out.  So I was getting 120 of them a month and still running out a week early.  One night, I awoke with severe chest pain, I couldn't breathe, I was sweating profusely, and I swear I was having a mild heart attack.  I felt so alone.  I knew the Oxy's would end up killing me if I did not stop abusing them...I quit them cold turkey.  For the first three to four days I felt awful.  Fatigue, yawning, restless legs, depression, and the diarrhea!  I am SO THANKFUL that I took the dry road.  It has been 2 weeks since I stopped them, and I feel much more like myself.  I'm smiling again, cracking jokes, singing, walking a mile every other day, and the depression is subsiding.  Still have the runs, though.  Heres what helped me:  A quality multi-vitamin, Panax Ginseng, 100mg. in the a.m. and 100mg. at about 2:00p.m., lots of water, coffee in the morning, lots of emotional support from my Husband and his Father, who worked in one of the worst Psych Hospitals for 30 years!, eating fresh fruit and lots of veggies and wholesome foods-stay away from the sugar fix because it makes the aingst much worse, and meditation.  Relax, go lay down, put everything out of your mind, and concentrate on calming and peaceful thoughts.  Your fatigue will subside, and by 2-3 weeks, you will feel much better.  Good luck, and be persistent.
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I always shunned prescription narcotics until 4-24-01 when I awoke with severe pain all over my body.  I went to a rheumatologist who prescribed Vicodin ES.  It made me feel like I used to.  I think I had a reaction to my Hepatitis B shots.  After about 5 months eating Vicodin, they were no longer effective, and Dr. put me on OxyContin 10mg. tabs.  He felt that the time-release formula would be less addicting.  Well, the 10's lead to the 20's, and by June of 2002, I was up to 4 to 7 of these bad boys every day!  Then I would run out.  So I was getting 120 of them a month and still running out a week early.  One night, I awoke with severe chest pain, I couldn't breathe, I was sweating profusely, and I swear I was having a mild heart attack.  I felt so alone.  I knew the Oxy's would end up killing me if I did not stop abusing them...I quit them cold turkey.  For the first three to four days I felt awful.  Fatigue, yawning, restless legs, depression, and the diarrhea!  I am SO THANKFUL that I took the dry road.  It has been 2 weeks since I stopped them, and I feel much more like myself.  I'm smiling again, cracking jokes, singing, walking a mile every other day, and the depression is subsiding.  Still have the runs, though.  Heres what helped me:  A quality multi-vitamin, Panax Ginseng, 100mg. in the a.m. and 100mg. at about 2:00p.m., lots of water, coffee in the morning, lots of emotional support from my Husband and his Father, who worked in one of the worst Psych Hospitals for 30 years!, eating fresh fruit and lots of veggies and wholesome foods-stay away from the sugar fix because it makes the aingst much worse, and meditation.  Relax, go lay down, put everything out of your mind, and concentrate on calming and peaceful thoughts.  Your fatigue will subside, and by 2-3 weeks, you will feel much better.  Good luck, and be persistent.
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HI EVERYONE,THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE,I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU,YOUR STORIES HAVE REALLY HELPED ME.IT ALL STARTED WHEN,I GOT INTO A CAR ACCIENDENT 2 YEARS AGO,THEY PUT ME ON VICODIN,FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS,I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE ADDICTING,THEN WHEN THEY WERE ALL GONE AND THE DOC. WOULD NOT GIVE ME ANYMORE,THEN I STARTED TO GO TO WITHDRAWLS,FOR ABOUT 2 DAYS,THEN STUPID ME WENT AND GOT MORE OFF THE STREET,AND IT WENT ON FOR 2 YEARS NON STOP EVERY DAY,I WOULD TAKE UP TO 12 A DAY.THEN I REALIZED HOW BAD IT WAS GETTING,I DIDNT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING,BUT THEM.IT WAS  MESSING UP MY LIFE AND MY REALTINSHIPS WITH EVERYONE I LOVE.IT IS NOW DAY 10 THAT IV'E BEEN CLEAN,I WENT THROUGH ALL THE HORRIBLE WITHDARAWLS,IT'S BEEN HARD BUT I AM FEELING SO MUCH BETTER,AND I KNOW I COULD DO IT,JUST AS WELL AS ALL OF YOU ,JUST STAY STRONG AND BE HAPPY,PRAY TO GOD,EVERYTHING WILL GET BETTER,TIME HEALS EVERYTHING.
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Meagain,how ya doin? I'm sorry it took me so long to get back yo you.I wrote out a big long page for yoou last weekend and got deleted.your story caught my eye,cause when I was trying to get off ocs I was fighting with my family too,and getting panic attacks.Kip gave you some good advice.hes good for that (hi Kip!) My doc put me on Neurontin wich is simular to klonopin,but better cause its non addictive,and helps with chronic pain ,panic attacks ,bipolar depression,acouple other things I cant remember.It seemed to help alot with the withdrawl.wich I was really surprized.To answer your ? about withdrawl Kip is right.everyone is different.I'm seeing a counselor who specializes in substance abuse among other things.But she told me it could take me up to 6 months for the withdrawls to completely disapear,but I was on opiates for 3 years.It probably wont be as bad for you because you were only on them for 1 year.THe worst of it for me was over in about 3 weeks some people say it only takes a few days,but its always takin me longer to heal or get over things.I'm just slow like that.But on an encouraging note,It was the best thing I could have ever done.It feels good to get out of bed without having to take a bunch of pills 1st.And when your son looks you in the eye and says "mom theres something different about you,your nicer now" Priceless, my eyes welled up with tears.I never doubted for a minute If I was doing the right thing.anyway hang in there,and keep me posted                            MYHELL
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Meagain,how ya doin? I'm sorry it took me so long to get back yo you.I wrote out a big long page for yoou last weekend and got deleted.your story caught my eye,cause when I was trying to get off ocs I was fighting with my family too,and getting panic attacks.Kip gave you some good advice.hes good for that (hi Kip!) My doc put me on Neurontin wich is simular to klonopin,but better cause its non addictive,and helps with chronic pain ,panic attacks ,bipolar depression,acouple other things I cant remember.It seemed to help alot with the withdrawl.wich I was really surprized.To answer your ? about withdrawl Kip is right.everyone is different.I'm seeing a counselor who specializes in substance abuse among other things.But she told me it could take me up to 6 months for the withdrawls to completely disapear,but I was on opiates for 3 years.It probably wont be as bad for you because you were only on them for 1 year.THe worst of it for me was over in about 3 weeks some people say it only takes a few days,but its always takin me longer to heal or get over things.I'm just slow like that.But on an encouraging note,It was the best thing I could have ever done.It feels good to get out of bed without having to take a bunch of pills 1st.And when your son looks you in the eye and says "mom theres something different about you,your nicer now" Priceless, my eyes welled up with tears.I never doubted for a minute If I was doing the right thing.anyway hang in there,and keep me posted                            MYHELL
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Meagain,how ya doin? I'm sorry it took me so long to get back yo you.I wrote out a big long page for yoou last weekend and got deleted.your story caught my eye,cause when I was trying to get off ocs I was fighting with my family too,and getting panic attacks.Kip gave you some good advice.hes good for that (hi Kip!) My doc put me on Neurontin wich is simular to klonopin,but better cause its non addictive,and helps with chronic pain ,panic attacks ,bipolar depression,acouple other things I cant remember.It seemed to help alot with the withdrawl.wich I was really surprized.To answer your ? about withdrawl Kip is right.everyone is different.I'm seeing a counselor who specializes in substance abuse among other things.But she told me it could take me up to 6 months for the withdrawls to completely disapear,but I was on opiates for 3 years.It probably wont be as bad for you because you were only on them for 1 year.THe worst of it for me was over in about 3 weeks some people say it only takes a few days,but its always takin me longer to heal or get over things.I'm just slow like that.But on an encouraging note,It was the best thing I could have ever done.It feels good to get out of bed without having to take a bunch of pills 1st.And when your son looks you in the eye and says "mom theres something different about you,your nicer now" Priceless, my eyes welled up with tears.I never doubted for a minute If I was doing the right thing.anyway hang in there,and keep me posted                            MYHELL
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ok:
how long are w/d? this is difficult, cause everyone is different!
approximation work beter here. 3-4 days for the actual "sickness"
part of it, followed by a period of depression and lethergy of
anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months. the fist 3-4 days are like a
bad case of the flu, with head trips thrown in. the first 3-4
days are easy, cause you'll be so sick that you won't be able to
act on any of your thoughts of picking up again. the 2 weeks to
2 months after are the hard part!

get on the L-tyrosine, b6, zink, manganese, and magnesium now, so
when you do start to detox it won't be quite as bad. after your
first 3-4 days, get up and get moving. physical acivity makes a
real big difference!

hope to here it all goes as "painlessly as possiable!"

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
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i cant tell you the inner peace i found in finding this site. I have been abusing oxycotin for a year and others for 4 more,3 weeks ago i decied to try to quit,but family promblems made it impossable to go through withdrawl right now, but i cant stopp thinking about how excited i am to actully stop taking these f--- pills. I keep having panic attacks about how long withdral relly lasts and would love for someone to give a striagh anwer,so ill know what to expect. I know no one can tell me to the hour or day but ineed a real time frame so i can cope with the idea of withdrawl and the fact that it will be over
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bl1216:
welcome to the forum! tell your wife there is always room for one
more addict here. try to get her to start posting. also post in a
thread closer to the top. it is real easy to get overlooked in the
basement! there is a wealth of info. about how to get off hydro-c
on this forum. buprenex is one option, but is not available in my
area (upper midwest).

keep posting closer to the top, you've come to the right place.
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
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hi everyone,
  my problem is this, my wife has been taking prescribed pain killers (mostly loretab)for about 15 years,for about 6 months now she has tried several times to stop but the withdrawals are apparently too much to bare. at 1st. they were prescribed for a back injury from a car accident,but now it is strictly an addiction. Everytime she tries to stop she gets really sick,and hurts badly,Then ends up going back to the doctor and they give her another prescription. In her defense i must say she is really trying,but not ever going through something like this myself it is hard for me to relate with what she is going through. my medical insurance has recently cancelled her coverage therefore the exspence is now all out of pocket. we have considered detox programs but i dont have the money required to get her in. She apparently can,t quit cold turkey so now i don,t know what to do. what can anyone tell me about Buprenex? Does it work? Is it obtainable? and most of all is it safe? I love my wife very much but this has become a huge strain on both of us. If it is hard on me then I,m sure it has got to be hell on her. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,    Bless you all and good luck.
                        bl216
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Sorry to hear about your loss.Whwn it rains it pours,just dont relapse!Today is a month for me.It sounds like we got clean around the same time.Its kinda funny that term (clean) cause I still dont feel clean.I'm still feelin pretty shitty.Like you said not as bad as before.I went to see a counselor today,so I am feelin better mentally.She specializes in substance abuse,among other things.But shes been doing it for a while,and she wants to put me on some meds called nuerotin.I think thats how you spell it?It sounds pretty good,Its like a anti-depresant,anti-anxiety,for chronic pain, mood swings and its suposed to be good for p.m.s.I dont know to much about your situation,or where you live,but if you live in mass. I'll give you her name.I know its hard to find good Dr.'s. It took me 10 years just to find a good pcp.But anyway ,,,,,hope all is well yoll be in my thoughts and prayers,we can get thru this! just keep hanginon!                               MYHELL                                                                        Hope to hear from ya soon
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry I haven't been here in a while, been trying to get well. Thanks for the solid truth about withdrawls. It does Suck....BIG TIME. Still pluggin away and have been drug free for almost a month.....still don't feel that great but not as bad as I did in the begining......Luck to all. I'll be back in a few days....had a death in the family so I have to go away for a few days. Peace
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Hurray!!!!  your doing so good nooneschild...  i am so proud of you and all your hard effort.  that prayer and God you were talking about earlier, are with you...  things will get better very soon.  doesnt just feel good to know that your cleansing the **** outta your body?  strange as it may seem with everytime i sat on the toilet i knew all yuck was leaving me.  one thing i did right away was call my pharmacy and told them not to refill my script (which was for 240 pill).  i told them not to release it to me or my husband.  they were very supportive of my decision.  all of your symptoms sound so familiar, as though i went through it yesterday...  and never want to go back to that place again....  

please, please keep going...  i think about you often...  please know that my prayers are with you...  oh yeah and by the way...  went back to church yesterday for the first time in along time...  i have much to be thankful for...  please check in with us okay?  

love, strenght & peace to you
stars......
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hjp
good job so far, keep things in perspective and fight the big battles first: stay off the hydros, keep the fluids coming, lots of calories( boost, ensure +).  Keep the small problems small: valium, ultram.  Ask your physician to try Questran for your diarrhea....may firm things up (one packet 3 times daily) as long as it doesn't irritate your bowel.  You may also be a candidate for zaniflex( non addicting pain med used in people with irritable bowel, colitis, crohns, etc.)  It makes you really sleepy, which might be positive now.  good luck...chin up.......hjp
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Well I am not sure if anyone is still out there or not, but somehow it seems to help to keep checking and writing.
Another day almost over, still have not gotten the hydro. refilled. Took Ultram and phenegran today, but so far I think this is the second time, The Doc and pharmicist are encouraging about my not taking them very often and assure me that they will not become a problem with the way I am taking them, 2x's in 4 days. Alternating between Restoil and Valium for sleep. Immodian seems to be kind of keeping the runs down a little. Felt better today but the Dr. sent me to the ER for some IV fluids for dehydration. I felt better afterwards. Managed to work from noon until 530!! Trying to get to sleep early as possible because even with the night meds, I still wake up every hour or so, sometimes need to get up and walk for the leg cramps, took tylenol last night and not sure if that worked or I was just so tired I managed to go back to sleep within an hour..
will check back again tomorrow..Oh, I did manage to go out in the yard for a short while and play toss with my dog...first time in months for that..She was a very happy little girl..
Keep the prayers coming and I will continue to pray for all of you. Thanks for listening.
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Thanks Stars, we can all use the extra power of the prayers.
So far, so good, no hydro. now since my last dose on Thursday!
Not bad as of now, but on my Dr and pharmicist advise, yesterday I did take some Ultran & Phenegran, helped somewhat with the pain. They told me not to take them as prescribed, 2x every 4 hours, but only take them when I really need them, for pain, not stress relief and even then to try to wait at least an hour or so after I think I need it and to keep trying to stretch it out longer and longer. I feel sooo tired but at the same time, I can not sit still. My mind is going 100 miles an hour and my body is saying "What the H*** is going on here" Clean house though, have found all kinds of scrap material and sewing everything I can find..will give it to the shelter afterwards. Anything to keep my mind occupied. Bored, restless, to tired to do anything, want to sleep, want to do something, can't concentrate enough to read or even play games on the computer....oh the joy of it all.
It will get better, it will get better, it will get better.
I guess I got so used to doing nothing but go to work, come home, sleep, and start all over again the next day that now I don't know what or how to do anything else. You kind of forget about everthing else, God forgive me, even church and prayger. I have prayed harder then I ever have before, yes, I am asking again for something, His help, but that is all I know to do, forgive me and take over and help give me the strengh and courage to do this.
Well, enough rambling for now. Thanks for listening and the encouraging words. Will check back soon.
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i'm going to throw my two cents in here nooneschild....  congradulations on your first step to freedom!  i am praying as of this day today you are still on the same road...  you are in a great place here...  i was reading this forum for weeks before i even decided to quit my 20+ day vicodin habit...  i know that without the strenght of God and the people on here i wouldnt be 16 days free as of today!!!!  i feel unbelievably great!!!  the support here is awesome, so please keep coming back, regardless of your outcome.  know that you are not alone.....  we will help you carry your burden...  my thoughts of strenght are with you, as i will pray for you as i continue to pray for every person here, and those who are alone in their struggle...  peace to you.....  stars......
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Thanks Dunit for the reply. I found the post a question yesterday and tryed it,said they had the max for the day. Again this morning. Oh well, I will just stay here if no one minds.
A little over 24 hours now, with no hydro. One small step. The runs started yesterday, the fatigue 2 days after I cut back to 1 dose a day. I copied the "recipe" but don't have all of it yet. Taking the Immodin AD and Phenegran 50 for N/V. I also take it for sinius ( yes it orginally was an antihistimine and does work for that)I took a Restoril 15mg last night and slept well, woke a few times and had to get up and walk around for the leg cramps, but all in all not as bad as I was expecting it to be.
Another question, I also have some Ultram 50mgs. but after reading all of these posts, it seems that that can be just as bad as the hydro.?? I was told that it was a non narc and also non addicitve?? Is it ok to take 1 or 2 of them if I get in some serious pain?
I told my husband last night what I had started doing and he is very supportive. He went and got some Ensure hi proten, mulit vitimans, immodian ad, refilled the phenegran, and got every kind of food he could think of that I like ( can goods, micorwave, easy fix stuff.) I can not afford to loose any more weight. Last year I had a fractured jaw resulting in surgery with all teeth removed and dentures, along with all the intestinal problems afterwards and went from 136 lbs down to 106!
My GI Dr. does not think I should even try to do this right now, with the recent surgery and GI problems, but I figure I have some runs, N/V and pain from that anyway, why go through it 2x's? My GP still has not returned my calls from the daily attempts the past 4 days, and all the help lines I have found all have answering machines and NO ONE has called me back yet!!
I called in work today, first week back on the job, worked 1/2 days for 4 days and now not going in..
I am rambling on here, sorry, but it does feel good just to get it out. Is there a chat room where any of you met?
Thanks for listening.
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Hello to all! I (like most of you) would never have thought that I of all people would be writing to you, but here I am.
I have been on Vicodin & Loratab for years now, for real medical reasons ( which I am sure most people start that way.) Enough is enough. Once again I will try to quit. I know I have a very long and hard time ahead of me but I have just got to do it.
For over 3-4 years now I have been on these meds for various reasons, surgery's, migraines, cluster headaches to name a few. After I started taking the Vicodin ES, 2 then 3x's a day for the headaches, as prescribed by the Doctor, then various surgerys, then up to Loratabs 25-30 mgs 3 -4 times a day. I have had enough and want off ( again.) I have tried 2 or 3 times in the past to get off but have never made it more than a week or so, the withdrawl was just too much for me. I took my last 30 mgs. this morning. Last week I cut down to only 30 mgs. 2x's a day, then from Sunday until today, once a day. The dirreaha has started already, now I am waiting for the rest to start. I have always had intestinal problems, with the runs and naus./vomiting, but I remember the last time I tried this, I got like spasms then within minutes would vomit. Ok, I can probably handle that part because I do have plenty of Phenegran 50 mgs for that. The weakness, anyone, what can I do about that?? the last time I actually did have the flu and could not keep anything down from that, not even the Loratab, after about 4 days without the pills, it ( the weaknes and vomiting ) was so bad I honestly could not walk from my bed to my couch without stoping to rest!! Then I took some of the Loratab for a bad headach and wa la, enegey returned and I was able to eat. Of course it also put me back up to the daily dosage I was on before. Now, just in cutting it down like I did, I am only working 1/2 day at a time because I just do not have the enegry to do any more ( and I have a job where I sit at a desk all day long!!) I had surgery 2 weeks ago for a strangulated hernia, and went back to work on Monday, I really need some help here. Drugs that I have on hand, or can get if needed are Phenegran 50 mgs, Elival 25mgs, Valium 10 mgs.,Restoril 15 mgs., Doxipin 25 mgs., Bentyl 20 mgs. I do have a refill on the Loratabs but have not gotten it and hopefully will not get it. I need to work, but if need be can take another week off ( I think.)  My husband is aware of the pain meds but of course anytime he mentions them I just blow him off. Tonight I will tell him I am going to get off and enlist his support. Besides my recent hernia surgery, I also have Enteritis & Colitis, ( had upper and lower scopes done in the hospital. I am also taking Previcid each day.
Sorry this is so long. I have spent the entire day reading your posts and I am looking forward to some speady replies. Thank everyone in advance.
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Sorry everyone, I am new at this and thought that I was posting a question not an answer. How do I do that??
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to ask a Queston you clickon "contact" and then The Harvard Med name in blue. They usually answer that their daily # of ?'s have been recieved. I guess that's why we keep on giving each other advice.
Anyway only  have a minute but, I think you need to take a good look at yourself and the amount of meds you are taking. Yes you have had serious medical conditons and pain, but overuse can cause more pain than many illneses.A lot of us can testify to that. Try to take as few as possible , get some help from an understanding Dr. who is trained inpain manaagemnt and detox.
I am now on day 7 of detox with bupernex and feel great.
Please try and find a professional to talk to.I wish you the very best. You sound like you are in a lot of physical and mental pain, but don't get down, get up and seek help,it's out there I promise. Keep posting, we care
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Hangin on, Thanx for the response can only talk for a sec,I hope this doesnt sound sadistic . But it helps to know others are goin thru the same stuff,I think ya just have to suffer for a while and get everything out of your system,I know it sux but I am getting a little betta day by day.If you can get your hands on some downers they help and L-tyrosine,hope to hear from ya soon.Ill be prayin for ya!                 MYHELL
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