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Prescription drug abuse

I think a friend of mine might be addicted to prescription drugs. How can I confront him with my concerns without ticking him off. What if I am wrong? Can anyone tell me what signs to look for to make sure?
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Well, that makes two emails to her.  I emailed Cindi last night when I posted about the Rachel Hunter thing.  Enough is enough.
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Wow! I'm quite the topic of conversation these days. I want to sincerely thank all those who said such gratifying things about me. What most of you don't realize is that you have all saved my life countless times simply by being my friends. It is my priviledge and salvation to offer what knowledge and experience I might have to those who suffer. Whatever my faults, my motivation for being here has and will always be true to the spirit of this forum.

I'm sorry to take so much time and realestate to resolve the groovy/mariposa/minime/rachael hunter issue. For those who don't know, she is an extremely troubled person who almost singlehandedly destroyed this forum, I think it was sometime last fall. Fortunately, we've bounced back. But it appears that the threat has returned. As per my previous post, I am now turning this problem over to Cindy at Med Help.

I apologize to our newcomers who came here for help and have been forced to wait while this war of words raged. I want them to know that their welfare is important to me and I will now concentrate on addressing every post that has up to now gone unanswered. I can't guarantee that I have the knowledge to help all of you, but I will certainly try.

Thomas
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You know, you're really very foolish. You get banned from Med Help for cause. You let some time go by, then you sneak back in under the handle "minime." But you just can't hide your hate, can you? This dispute between us has resulted in your exposing your true identity once again. You see, Mariposa, it's easy to spot you because there is simply no one on any addiction forum as blatantly vicious as you. I wonder: should I pity you or encourage your self-destruction?

One thing I know, your illicit presence on Med Help diminishes the forum as well as every legitimate member. I would ask you to do the decent thing and stop posting, but I know you too well. Instead, I'm going to inform Cindy at Med Help that you've returned unbidden and are posting under the handles "minime" and, of all names, "Rachael Hunter." I guess you forgot that you used the Rachael Hunter alias last time around! Fatal error, don't you think? Of course, you're free for the time being to create yet another false identity. But experience shows that you're incapable of hiding your malevolent soul for long. Truth be told, you've probably already posted under other handles. No matter. The good people that care about this forum will just have to root out your aliases one by one until you're gone.

Thomas
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Well there ya go...I tried. You choose to be hostile towards everyone here that opposes you rather than just move on. So why don't you just go ahead & leave this forum? If you're so bothered by everybody here & their words, opinions or advice, why stay? To cause more problems? Your hostility is not needed & I'm sure not appreciated. To blatantly attack Blue for agreeing with me by saying "F-U" is utterly childish & uncalled for. Blue said no harsh words towards you & you should apologize for your reply...but something's telling me not to hold my breath.

FINISHED!!
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And, as Mariposa/Groovygirl/Rachel Hunter has just pointed out, some people keep it going.  People should just let it go.  By the way, Rachel Hunter is the name Groovygirl/Mariposa goes by.  Or, it might just be a pseudonym.  So, I thought those not in the know should be informed.
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Minime, please get in touch with me.

This forum is a valuble service to addicts and chronic pain sufferers alike, and about every 6 weeks a new confrontation breaks out for many different reasons. If any of you are reading this forum as a newcomer, please do not be scared away; as addicts, many of us have egos that can be bruised quite easily, and because of that we tend to be confrontational at times.

Fingers COULD be pointed at about 5 people here who have let this new confrontation go on too long, but I say to you- DROP IT for now.

***@****
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That is so true.  I am commenting on what you wrote about Thomas' original post and not knowing how it all came to be what it is now.  That is the way it usually happens around here.  And, it is usually the same players.  Minime tried to do it with me back when during Hellbent's banning.  I think she has definitely shown us what her MO is.  Just to remind, when all that dust cleared, and I posted to someone about something, she jumped right on and asked where Hellbent is....just for a little dig.  So, after this, I think the track record has been established.  Basically, people should just move on.  Certain people feed off of this.
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The morals in Aesop are keepers. If only I had taken them to heart earlier. ~~
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i have to point out that a few months back some very special people were banned from this forum for being too religious.

i am truely suprised you would choose to keep such hostile people on a help forum, yet ban people who where a true insperation.

just my  opion

linda
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And, if that was a shot at me, you got to be kidding.  This latest thing has nothing to do with me.  I just couldn't help but comment on what finished wrote.  He hit the nail right on the head.  This IS a message board.
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Butt out and F-U.
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Hey hon

Haven't spoke to you in awhile. I am so glad to hear that you are sticking to your game plan. It WILL get better. Just hang in there. No one said it's easy, if it was we would do it over and over again. ( although lots of us do anyhow!! lol)

keep me posted, my thoughts and prayeres are with you.


be safe
linda
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Hey, finnished!! Just have to say I AGREE

I haven't posted here in awhile but i am very familiar with Thomas Finnished and even you MINIMME

all i have to say is CUT IT OUT!! If you don't like the people on this board minimme than DON"T Come. No one is making you.


be safe
linda
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That post nor any other was not meant as a "dig" nor did I exclude anybody from what I was trying to convey. You're correct in the fact that I did not specifically address Thomas or anyone else by name. My entire point, starting from the first post regarding this was that I constantly see YOU in these tiffs. Not pointing any fingers at you for starting them however...and that's SINCERE. My point is this: It is up to EVERYONE involved with these arguements to take the higher road & pass on further commenting that is hurtful, aggressive or insulting. That DOES include Thomas, you, myself & everyone here. NONE is above any other here. It just seems that you take a lot of what is said as insulting or mean-spirited. My posts to you were neither of these yet you came back with this:

"Are you saying that Thomas, who started this, can say terrible things to me and everyone else (including you) can continue to bash me, but I should say nothing?"

Including me? How could you possibly interpret my words as "bashing?" And NO...I am not saying that Thomas or anybody else can say terrible things. What I'm trying to do is maybe help you to see these things from a prospective other than one of a defensive position. If you remember, you & I once had words & it was resolved because I chose to accept the fact that the bickering was leading nowhere. I read over Thomas' original post that "started" this & I don't really see why this became what it has. If Thomas or anybody else says things to you that you don't like, you have the right to retaliate if you so choose but I see nothing that will come of it other than more bickering. I see your point when you say that I have helped to keep this going but my intentions are different than most. My intention is ONLY to help you to see that NOTHING has come of this, NOTHING will come of this & maybe you should try to not take one's words as hurtful as you seem to. I apologize if you feel that I have jumped on the "minime-bashing-wagon" or I am contributing the anger you're feeling. That was never my intention. I TRULY hope you see my posts as they were intended...as helpful...not hurtful.

FINISHED!!
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You keep telling me to drop it - I only respond to the posts written to me.  Are you saying that Thomas, who started this, can say terrible things to me and everyone else (including you) can continue to bash me, but I should say nothing?

I was doing all I could do to help Freezing, when Thomas decided to insult me, so what you and everyone else is saying is that it is OK for him but not me...you, along with everyone else, has continued to help keep this thing going.  It blows my mind to see how hypocritical everyone can be.

There are a couple people here that continue to throw digs even when I'm posting to someone else trying to help them.  When they stop, so will I.
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Minime...Why wont you drop it? You have accomplished absolutely nothing with the continued lashing & insults. I don't agree with the "ganging up" on minime that's occurring here but I STRONGLY disagree with your comments to Thomas regarding him killing himself. Be it seriously said or not...it was uncalled for & quite frankly...childish. You DO have some of an old member's qualities named Mariposa & they are NOT qualities to be proud of. I've tried to advise you on how to handle these attacks & you've obviously chose to ignore that advice...which is fine. That's the beauty of choice & freedom. But you have contributed to turning this forum into a wrestling ring (not alone) & many people have jumped into this "fight" without need. If there is one person...only one person on this forum that's capable of handling himself it's Thomas. Please...there are many people here posting questions amongst the harsh words that may be overlooked. Please drop this. Pride is a wonderful quality but there IS such a thing as TOO MUCH pride. Swallow your pride if you're truly here to help those in need. If you're here for reasons other than to help those people or to help yourself...please leave. I don't believe that this is the case with you mini. I believe you are here to help when you can but you must stop the continuous fighting to do so.

To those defending Thomas...like I said before, I think if anybody on this forum is capable of defending himself, it's Thomas. It's great to see the outpouring of support & praise to Thomas but when you start lashing out against mini, it makes the snowball that much bigger. That does NOT mean that you shouldn't point out to mini or anybody else the things that he or she may be misinterpreting about Thomas. BUT...Calling names or lashing out in the defense of anybody accomplishes nothing. We ALL really need to focus on the HELP in medhelp.org. If something is said that we do not like, appreciate or agree with, we have the choice to scroll past that post without comment, comment with a little tact or attack the poster. I think that the most productive decision would be the first two rather than the last. This is coming from a guy who ran head-first into EVERY battle waged against him with aggression, anger & hostility just a few months ago...BUT...I've learned a LOT from the other "old-time" members here like Rex1, MrsRat, Thomas & many others. I now look at these arguments & shutter to think that this was me not long ago. Please drop this argument. It has made zero sense from the start & will make less in the end.

FINISHED!!
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Feel free to ask anytime.  I have more experience than I wish I had.  I have done a ton of research on opiates and opioids.  I hope I was able to help you in some way.
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I'm definitely not angry anymore...haha...this has gotten funny with everyone stating St. Thomas' virtues...pulease!
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Peeps were banned for less than religion. (if that is true) "Staff" informed us/me on another site (I dare not post the URL for peeps +have+ been banned for that, selectively)

However, Robyn Banks/Mariposa/minime are beyond the pale. There are a bezillion self help books but this addict's recommendation is Aesop's fables.

These^^^^ morales are to live/die by.

The Subutex/Suboxone thread is where the silly bickering started.

There posts under that thread are C2, C5, C9-10, C42, C44, C49 (Thomas's words)

And: C7, C11, C16-17, C26, C34, C38, C40, c43, C47 (minime's words)

I will not take sides. It's easy to determine who is angry and who is not.

One didn't even have to be present the day "inferred main idea" was taught. A (literal) no brainer.

Regardless, I read/have read here on this forum a long time, long enuf to remember mariposa, groovy and now.. Robyn Banks.

Anger is part of the healing process.

So is reading x-cellent writers, such as.. most recently: Sisyphus and Dancin' in the Dark.

As for mythology, there are a few posts dedicated to the character/story of Sisyphus on another site. I dare not say where though.

Cheers. This nightly glass of vino is hardly worth the effort to pop the cork, but it's better than washing down Vikes w. Stoli.

Isn't it?

otz

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AGAIN someone (Blue) butts in and flames ME, but yet again I cannot say anything back.  I can do this as long as you can.
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Why would you waste so much time and energy corresponding with someone you find as loathsome as Thomas?

When you go back & read through your own vituperative messages towards someone who actually contributes to this board, you will read the pathetic, hysterical rantings of a child tangled in a web of unfounded fury.

Could the drug you are using possibly be contributing to this?

Take some time to cool off and then come back.  We're all here for you but I am shocked at the tone of your messages.  Go & jump off a bridge?  Take some time - please.

Dancing in the Dark
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A shell of a human you say?  Someone who has helped countless people and inspired so many?  Psycho-******* like you belong in Anger Management Therapy hooked up to a Thorazine drip to keep them quiet!  By the way, Home Depot is running a sale on duct tape so we can seal off our windows in case of an attack  --- you might want to get a few rolls and use it on your mouth!
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Basically, you are addicted to opium....to a certain degree.  Both hydrocodone and oxycodone will relieve your withdrawal symptoms.  If you are taking hydro, you might as well be taking oxy.  Of course you would feel better taking hydro four times a day.  Hydrocodone is an opiate agonist, just like oxycodone, or morphine and so on.  The only way to truly get the withdrawals over with is to just do it without either.  Taking hydro is just substituting one for the other.  Any opioid agonist will make you feel better.  That is what cross-tolerance basically is.  If have a tolerance for one, then you have a tolerance (to some degree) to the other agonist.  And, vice-versa.
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First, I am not sure why mimi is upset with Thomas, I did not read that far above, but, I will tell you that there is not a better person(addict that he is) who has not tried to help each and everyone on this board.  Thomas has suffered through withdrawals and had seizures that almost killed him, but, he is still right back here, trying to save us, or lives.  And to ask him to jump off a bridge, how inhumane.  I am sorry to say this, because I do feel your pain too mimi, and I know that you must be huring real bad inside because of your addiction, but Thomas does not think he is better than anyone else, and he doens't think he knows it all.  What he does know, he shares, in hopes I believe that if he can help one person not make the same mistakes with drugs like he has, it will be worth it.  Don't you see the true caring, empathy and compassion in his words. Many of us here see nothing but that. Yes, Thomas says he has been abusing for 30 years, but, like all of us who have abused, I know he wants to stop.  I know the last time I talked to him here, he was 3 weeks clean, but, still wanting to get high!  I hope Thomas you are still hanging in there, but, if not, I still love you, and you are still a wonderful man.  Suicide is what we all are afraid of at times, when going through withdrawal, when hitting rock bottome.  We want to live, have a life, feel joy again, and to have someone tell the most needed person on the forum to do that, I have to only hope and believe that you are in severe pain.  But, we are still here for you, and even though I know Thomas is hurting by what you said, I truly believe he will reach out to you if you will let him.  Maybe it is your fear of what he says to be the truth that frightens you and you get defensive.  Whatever it is, open up your heart a little and let him in.  He can save your life, he did mine a few weeks ago.  I took zanax for only two weeks and at the percribed dose, but, when stopping this short acting benzo I thought I was dying and almost went to the emergency room with such awful pains of anxiety in my chest.  I lost 10 lbs(thanks Thomas I wanted to lose that weight) in one week, couldn't eat and each day I came here and Thomas talked to me and told me it would get easier everday.  That the panic and severe fear I was feeling was just the withdrawal, not that I was going crazy or dying.  Bless you Thomas.  Love to all here, you to MIMI
Love Sugarbeens
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