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Problems in Northern Utah
I posted a short while back about my Percocet addiction.. And, well, I've been calling around, and going to a lot of places. Every place I've found has been a dead end. The sliding scale places want me to wait two weeks before I can even talk to a doctor, to even be considered for medication, and the rest are incredibly high priced.
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, I can't work because of the Withdrawals and lack of Detox help, and I can't afford the detox help I've found because I don't have a job to pay for their services.
I'm trying to get on Bupo.. Right now I'm on this drug called Librium I got from the Er I went to a short while back, but it's not really doing much.
I'm wondering if anyone lives near here, and knows of any place that can actually help me, or if someone has other ideas for what I can do. I'm about to put in a call to my General doctor, but he's gone through the W/D process with me twice already, and the last time he seemed pretty fed up over it, so I'm fairly worried about bringing it up to him, afraid it may jeopordize my future career..
I can't take much more of this, I'm at a dead end, and I can't find a way out. Any help would be useful.. This is just a nightmare.
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, I can't work because of the Withdrawals and lack of Detox help, and I can't afford the detox help I've found because I don't have a job to pay for their services.
I'm trying to get on Bupo.. Right now I'm on this drug called Librium I got from the Er I went to a short while back, but it's not really doing much.
I'm wondering if anyone lives near here, and knows of any place that can actually help me, or if someone has other ideas for what I can do. I'm about to put in a call to my General doctor, but he's gone through the W/D process with me twice already, and the last time he seemed pretty fed up over it, so I'm fairly worried about bringing it up to him, afraid it may jeopordize my future career..
I can't take much more of this, I'm at a dead end, and I can't find a way out. Any help would be useful.. This is just a nightmare.
You hit the nail on the head! Methadone, used sparingly (ONLY A FEW OR COUPLE OF DAYS) , is truly the best way to face the horrors of D/Ts. It's the only way to do it and not feel hardly any W/D pain. It is hard to get at times ( the right Dr. will help you), but truly worth the money you save once you get off. I usually take one in the a.m. and one in the p.m. for two or three days. I do get a slight "bad day" feeling about four days after coming of the Methadone but it's nowhere near the way I feel without anything. The trick to the Methadone working is that they make you not "Crave" pain meds hardly at all and virtually eliminate the leg pain and gut burning etc.... BE SURE YOU WAIT UNTIL THE OXY or other OPIATE's HAVE WORN OFF OR YOUR HEAD WILL BE SEVERELY SPINNING IN MOST CASES I HAVE FOUND! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
I'm not sure how potent the Oxymorphone is? It just says,like Oxy,that
it's an abuse drug,so I'd tend to think it's close to the same thing as
Oxy,but I could be mistaken. I'll put a new thread up,to see if anyone
knows. Thanks.Feel Better.
it's an abuse drug,so I'd tend to think it's close to the same thing as
Oxy,but I could be mistaken. I'll put a new thread up,to see if anyone
knows. Thanks.Feel Better.
what do you think of the opana? did you research it yet? ami wrong about it being some pretty rugged stuff? have a good one! we need to start a new thread, this one is getting quite long...
Don't get down on yourself about the Anxiety,sorry. I can tell you from my
personal experience also,that I had the worst case of panic attacks when
I got off both meds,too. I even went to the ER a few times because I was
afraid that I was going to hurt myself and or someone else. The mental
part of the withdrawls were 110% harder to deal with for me,than the
physical stuff,which really wasn't that bad. I just would lay in bed all day
long,tossing and turning,driving yself even more nuts. Even though my
body was totally exhausted,I could not sleep a wink,even with Benzo's.
I know that everyone says that it will get better with time,but after 5 measly
weeks of it myself,I just couldn't take it anymore.I too,was worried that I fried
my brain beyond ever getting better,if that's possible?It was just crazy,to be
substituting one med for another,just to function.What's the point of being
on a different med that's not making you any better than the med you were
taking in the first place?The benzo's were making me feel ten times worse,
than the Methadone did. At least I could function almost 100% on the Meth.
On the Benzo's,I was like a living vegetable.LOL.Who needs that?
They wouldn't give me specifics on what type of shots they want to give
me. I asked the Dr. before he jumped out the door,are the shots steroids?
He said yes,and that's all I needed to hear. I'm not doing them,even though
they have me booked for 2. I just don't think this is the PM place for me. I
just want to take the less invasive step to see what other types of oral meds
will work for me,that's all. Is that too much to ask for,in this money making
machine they call "Pain Management? Hope you feel better. God Bless.
personal experience also,that I had the worst case of panic attacks when
I got off both meds,too. I even went to the ER a few times because I was
afraid that I was going to hurt myself and or someone else. The mental
part of the withdrawls were 110% harder to deal with for me,than the
physical stuff,which really wasn't that bad. I just would lay in bed all day
long,tossing and turning,driving yself even more nuts. Even though my
body was totally exhausted,I could not sleep a wink,even with Benzo's.
I know that everyone says that it will get better with time,but after 5 measly
weeks of it myself,I just couldn't take it anymore.I too,was worried that I fried
my brain beyond ever getting better,if that's possible?It was just crazy,to be
substituting one med for another,just to function.What's the point of being
on a different med that's not making you any better than the med you were
taking in the first place?The benzo's were making me feel ten times worse,
than the Methadone did. At least I could function almost 100% on the Meth.
On the Benzo's,I was like a living vegetable.LOL.Who needs that?
They wouldn't give me specifics on what type of shots they want to give
me. I asked the Dr. before he jumped out the door,are the shots steroids?
He said yes,and that's all I needed to hear. I'm not doing them,even though
they have me booked for 2. I just don't think this is the PM place for me. I
just want to take the less invasive step to see what other types of oral meds
will work for me,that's all. Is that too much to ask for,in this money making
machine they call "Pain Management? Hope you feel better. God Bless.
Oxymorphone 10 mg
Hydrocodone 20 mg
Oxycodone 20 mg
Methadone b 20 mg
Morphine 30 mg
here is a chart i found...it may be hard to understand the way it pasted but it means that just 10mg of opana is equal to 20mg of hydrocodone,= to 20mgs of oxycodone,= to20 mgs of methadone b and also = to 30mgs of morphine....it sounds like some rugged ****, like maybe you arent going to even miss the methadone or oxys...but i am not a pharmacist, so do some research of your own to be safe...well that sucks that they kind of treated you like a criminal, they took your picture?? why? did you ask them why? i hope you posed well for them...they will probably cut and paste your head and put it in some internet porn....LOL!!! i am just kidding i couldnt resist....just trying to make you laugh.did it work??? when do you go back again? do you think this will work for you? i would stay away from the shots, just my opinion. i had cortizone shots in my heels and left shoulder, didnt do a thing for my feet, and it debilitated me in the shoulder because the doc said hte one in my shoulder "crystalized?" whatever that means... and there is another shot they want to give you...but they have to put you to sleep for it...i might think its some type of nerve block in your spine? but not sure...i would ask about that one again too. and hey dont get down on yourself , this might be the solution you have needed, you wont know until you give it a try...what strength opana are they giving you...i read they come in 5mg, 10mg, 20 mg and 40 mgs??? find outso we can research it more... also i guess all opana is extended release? kind of like percocets compared to oxycontin...they say to make sure you swallow whole...do not crush or chew and has to be taken on empty stomach..1 hour before meals or 2 hours after meals... also said dose is 1 tablet every 12 hours...do your research on this, i dont think i have ever heard of it...never know though i probably took it at 1 point and dont even know it LOL!! did you tell him about your problems with methadone tapering? and not sure about this correct me if i am wrong..but i think they do make 15mg percs, they are just 15mgs oxycodone with no tylenol, and they are light blue and small with a score across the back... i feel like **** about 80 % of the time now...it is getting better, i just cant deal with all of these new wierd *** problems...like panic attacks? iused to hear people talk about panic and i would say under my breath "well just dont think like that or just stop hyperventilating!" and now i have panic attacks, the agoraphobia, what the ****? i cant leave my house now, you are talking to the bar hopping party jumping girl that hated being home!!! and the anxiety is just unreal, that has got to be the worst!! i can feel the anxiety just coursing through my body...all i do is cry now... the depression has such a hold on me that even when i say the word "depression" it gets worse....and this new avoidant behavoir i have...i avoid everything now...family, friends. dr. appts, going to the dentist..but thats part of the agoraphobia...i am just freaked out all the time...i guess i am a freak...i am worried that this **** is here to stay, the longer i am clean the worse i seem to get....i just dont get what has happened to me....well have a good night and check in with you later. peace.
Hydrocodone 20 mg
Oxycodone 20 mg
Methadone b 20 mg
Morphine 30 mg
here is a chart i found...it may be hard to understand the way it pasted but it means that just 10mg of opana is equal to 20mg of hydrocodone,= to 20mgs of oxycodone,= to20 mgs of methadone b and also = to 30mgs of morphine....it sounds like some rugged ****, like maybe you arent going to even miss the methadone or oxys...but i am not a pharmacist, so do some research of your own to be safe...well that sucks that they kind of treated you like a criminal, they took your picture?? why? did you ask them why? i hope you posed well for them...they will probably cut and paste your head and put it in some internet porn....LOL!!! i am just kidding i couldnt resist....just trying to make you laugh.did it work??? when do you go back again? do you think this will work for you? i would stay away from the shots, just my opinion. i had cortizone shots in my heels and left shoulder, didnt do a thing for my feet, and it debilitated me in the shoulder because the doc said hte one in my shoulder "crystalized?" whatever that means... and there is another shot they want to give you...but they have to put you to sleep for it...i might think its some type of nerve block in your spine? but not sure...i would ask about that one again too. and hey dont get down on yourself , this might be the solution you have needed, you wont know until you give it a try...what strength opana are they giving you...i read they come in 5mg, 10mg, 20 mg and 40 mgs??? find outso we can research it more... also i guess all opana is extended release? kind of like percocets compared to oxycontin...they say to make sure you swallow whole...do not crush or chew and has to be taken on empty stomach..1 hour before meals or 2 hours after meals... also said dose is 1 tablet every 12 hours...do your research on this, i dont think i have ever heard of it...never know though i probably took it at 1 point and dont even know it LOL!! did you tell him about your problems with methadone tapering? and not sure about this correct me if i am wrong..but i think they do make 15mg percs, they are just 15mgs oxycodone with no tylenol, and they are light blue and small with a score across the back... i feel like **** about 80 % of the time now...it is getting better, i just cant deal with all of these new wierd *** problems...like panic attacks? iused to hear people talk about panic and i would say under my breath "well just dont think like that or just stop hyperventilating!" and now i have panic attacks, the agoraphobia, what the ****? i cant leave my house now, you are talking to the bar hopping party jumping girl that hated being home!!! and the anxiety is just unreal, that has got to be the worst!! i can feel the anxiety just coursing through my body...all i do is cry now... the depression has such a hold on me that even when i say the word "depression" it gets worse....and this new avoidant behavoir i have...i avoid everything now...family, friends. dr. appts, going to the dentist..but thats part of the agoraphobia...i am just freaked out all the time...i guess i am a freak...i am worried that this **** is here to stay, the longer i am clean the worse i seem to get....i just dont get what has happened to me....well have a good night and check in with you later. peace.
is it called opana oxymorphone "er"....is it the extended release? it actually sounds like something pretty strong that is definately stronger than percs...i am reading more ...get back at ya...
Sorry I didn't respond in a few days. Went to my new PM Dr. down here and,
all I can say is that I'm "Traumatized". What a "Huge" differrence in the way
the programs are structured. First of all,once you get in the office,you get
faced with a nurse,who makes you initial this huge list of procedures in
which you must follow as she reads them off. They take your picture,as
if you were a criminal,make you get blood work,EKG.ETc...You feel like
your at a jail or something,which makes you stomach turn right away.
The DR. comes in and spends like 90% of the time talking about the
Methadone I was taking and that I shouldn't feel like an "Addict" which
I told him I felt like. I brought my last month's script bottles with the pills
from this month in them.LOL. They were in my wife's purse and I didn't
show him that I had them until He was going to leave without giving me
any new meds for at least a week. I mentioned somewhere in the con-
versation of how bad my Oxy intake was. He obviously didn't realize how
bad it was,since he said as he tried to squeeze out the door to dee other
patients that I would just take 3 of the Percs he was going to give me.
They counted up my Mmethadone,which was 68. He doesn't know I have
a new bottle with at least 300 in it,but It's none of his business,to say the
least. He said he woud count up my 15mg of Oxys and then write me a
script for Percs. I know they dodn't make 15mg of Percs,just 10,so I told
them as long as they give me the same mg's worth of the Percs as I had
of the Oxy,no problem. Well,the nurse comes in,without counting the Oxy
or signing a paper like when she counted the Methadone for me to sign.
I was a little concerned,since she already had a Perc script and didn't even
tell me how many Oxy s he counted. What kind of BS is that? It was my
fault that I even brought the meds I quess. I 'm in worse shape now,than
I was in before I went there. I had a stronger med taken away from me
and got stuck with ****. Now I've been really depressed lately. He wants
me to drop from 40mg of the Methadone to 20mg in only a week and wants
to give me something called Opana,which is Oxymorphone.Have you ever
hard of this? It sounds just like the Oxycodone I'm completely immune too.
I'm really upset now. He also wants to start giving me injections,which I
don't want,since Cortisone shots inhibit healing of tendons,joints and ligaments,
so they just deteriorate faster. I'm not looking to have my knee replaced anytime
soon,so I'm not going to do the shots. I know it's his way of making more money
on you in between your every month visit,I'm not stupid. What kind of shot is it
that they need to put you to sleep to administer? Sounds really bad to me and
you need to be picked up once you have the shot. My wife can't take off anymore
work to take or pick me up from anywhere,since she will be risking her job and since
I'm not working,we will lose the house for sure,right? I need to start working soon,so
how can I keep getting shots every week or 2 and still keep a new job,it just ain't
going to happen,that's why I don't want the shots. I'll try the Opana next week,but
that's it for now,no shots I'll tell him. It's been too much of a change and shock to
me already,for just one day,I've been told to drop my Methadoneto half what I'm
taking,and that's as low as I can go already,before I'm not able to sleep or function.
Enough about me,how are you doing with your tapering? I hope you aren't feeling as
bad as you have been? Is your computer OK? Let me know. God Bless.
all I can say is that I'm "Traumatized". What a "Huge" differrence in the way
the programs are structured. First of all,once you get in the office,you get
faced with a nurse,who makes you initial this huge list of procedures in
which you must follow as she reads them off. They take your picture,as
if you were a criminal,make you get blood work,EKG.ETc...You feel like
your at a jail or something,which makes you stomach turn right away.
The DR. comes in and spends like 90% of the time talking about the
Methadone I was taking and that I shouldn't feel like an "Addict" which
I told him I felt like. I brought my last month's script bottles with the pills
from this month in them.LOL. They were in my wife's purse and I didn't
show him that I had them until He was going to leave without giving me
any new meds for at least a week. I mentioned somewhere in the con-
versation of how bad my Oxy intake was. He obviously didn't realize how
bad it was,since he said as he tried to squeeze out the door to dee other
patients that I would just take 3 of the Percs he was going to give me.
They counted up my Mmethadone,which was 68. He doesn't know I have
a new bottle with at least 300 in it,but It's none of his business,to say the
least. He said he woud count up my 15mg of Oxys and then write me a
script for Percs. I know they dodn't make 15mg of Percs,just 10,so I told
them as long as they give me the same mg's worth of the Percs as I had
of the Oxy,no problem. Well,the nurse comes in,without counting the Oxy
or signing a paper like when she counted the Methadone for me to sign.
I was a little concerned,since she already had a Perc script and didn't even
tell me how many Oxy s he counted. What kind of BS is that? It was my
fault that I even brought the meds I quess. I 'm in worse shape now,than
I was in before I went there. I had a stronger med taken away from me
and got stuck with ****. Now I've been really depressed lately. He wants
me to drop from 40mg of the Methadone to 20mg in only a week and wants
to give me something called Opana,which is Oxymorphone.Have you ever
hard of this? It sounds just like the Oxycodone I'm completely immune too.
I'm really upset now. He also wants to start giving me injections,which I
don't want,since Cortisone shots inhibit healing of tendons,joints and ligaments,
so they just deteriorate faster. I'm not looking to have my knee replaced anytime
soon,so I'm not going to do the shots. I know it's his way of making more money
on you in between your every month visit,I'm not stupid. What kind of shot is it
that they need to put you to sleep to administer? Sounds really bad to me and
you need to be picked up once you have the shot. My wife can't take off anymore
work to take or pick me up from anywhere,since she will be risking her job and since
I'm not working,we will lose the house for sure,right? I need to start working soon,so
how can I keep getting shots every week or 2 and still keep a new job,it just ain't
going to happen,that's why I don't want the shots. I'll try the Opana next week,but
that's it for now,no shots I'll tell him. It's been too much of a change and shock to
me already,for just one day,I've been told to drop my Methadoneto half what I'm
taking,and that's as low as I can go already,before I'm not able to sleep or function.
Enough about me,how are you doing with your tapering? I hope you aren't feeling as
bad as you have been? Is your computer OK? Let me know. God Bless.
hi there...my computer is kind of fixed..i can at least access med-help and my e-mail now...just to let you know if you want to chat
i will reply to your post later...i'm not ignoring you...just having c0mputer problems...its all screwed up....sorry...have a great day... i will try again later...
Don't feel bad about being a different person. My wife has a new husband,too.LOL.
I was a crazy Coke head and Alchie when we me and continued for about another
4 years. Once I got clean,for only 3 months,she was extatic,since I was a completely
different person,than before. Now,after another huge setback(hips being replacd and
being on drugs for another 5 years),it's been crazy also. About a month ago,as my
wife was holding on too my scripts in her car,so I wouldn't abuse them as much.
She locked both sets of keys in here Jeep in the garage.It was early in the morning
and it totally F'd up my morning schedule. I like to get up.take my pillls and go
smoke on the back porch with the computer surfing the internet. Well,that just set
me off,like a crack-head having his crack taken from him. I told her that I was going
to break the window. She saw the old me,again. I told her I was just kidding,but a
part of me,knew that I wasn't. It was scary for both of us. I didn't break the window,
but just the thought of it,made me scared and knew I needed to stop this junk
I've been on for so long,again.I just have a very short temper lately,but I know it
is all drug related,so don't feel bad about yourself having a hard time also. I'm glad
to see your tapering and doing so well. I see the new PM Dr. at 8 on Monday morn.
Can't wait,but I'm also super scared as to what he might be like. If he's a jerk about
my abuse or from my past,since he will read all about my prior addictions that gave
me the hip issues. I'm so pissed that the Dr' had to put all that shameful stuff in is
report.Why couldn't they just put that I conracted a bone disease and didn't know
what caused it,because they actually don't know exactly what caused it. They put
in the report that alcohol and drugs did it,but I personally think that,plus the over
excersising of riding over 20 miles a day,everyday hard,did it more so,but Dr's
always look at the bad instead of the good,right? It just drives me nuts,everytime
I have to go see a new Dr.,just sitting there in the room,before the Dr. comes in.
Feeling like a loser,waiting for them to come in and inspect me like a coroner
inpects a dead person on a slab.I'm paranoid too,over the stupidest things,just
like going to the store,or going to the Dr's office. Well,I don't need to medicate
to go out,but don't feel bad,it's these damn drugs messing up our brains forever.
The Dr's know this,and love it,because they can keep having the same patient
forever,with different symptoms from different drug side effects. It's a shame,and
you'll never hear a Dr. tell you that,but you know it's true.We are all guinea pigs
being tested for the rest of our lives,without even knowing it. That's why we need
to get off these mind alterring drugs,NOW. Have a great day.Peace out.
I was a crazy Coke head and Alchie when we me and continued for about another
4 years. Once I got clean,for only 3 months,she was extatic,since I was a completely
different person,than before. Now,after another huge setback(hips being replacd and
being on drugs for another 5 years),it's been crazy also. About a month ago,as my
wife was holding on too my scripts in her car,so I wouldn't abuse them as much.
She locked both sets of keys in here Jeep in the garage.It was early in the morning
and it totally F'd up my morning schedule. I like to get up.take my pillls and go
smoke on the back porch with the computer surfing the internet. Well,that just set
me off,like a crack-head having his crack taken from him. I told her that I was going
to break the window. She saw the old me,again. I told her I was just kidding,but a
part of me,knew that I wasn't. It was scary for both of us. I didn't break the window,
but just the thought of it,made me scared and knew I needed to stop this junk
I've been on for so long,again.I just have a very short temper lately,but I know it
is all drug related,so don't feel bad about yourself having a hard time also. I'm glad
to see your tapering and doing so well. I see the new PM Dr. at 8 on Monday morn.
Can't wait,but I'm also super scared as to what he might be like. If he's a jerk about
my abuse or from my past,since he will read all about my prior addictions that gave
me the hip issues. I'm so pissed that the Dr' had to put all that shameful stuff in is
report.Why couldn't they just put that I conracted a bone disease and didn't know
what caused it,because they actually don't know exactly what caused it. They put
in the report that alcohol and drugs did it,but I personally think that,plus the over
excersising of riding over 20 miles a day,everyday hard,did it more so,but Dr's
always look at the bad instead of the good,right? It just drives me nuts,everytime
I have to go see a new Dr.,just sitting there in the room,before the Dr. comes in.
Feeling like a loser,waiting for them to come in and inspect me like a coroner
inpects a dead person on a slab.I'm paranoid too,over the stupidest things,just
like going to the store,or going to the Dr's office. Well,I don't need to medicate
to go out,but don't feel bad,it's these damn drugs messing up our brains forever.
The Dr's know this,and love it,because they can keep having the same patient
forever,with different symptoms from different drug side effects. It's a shame,and
you'll never hear a Dr. tell you that,but you know it's true.We are all guinea pigs
being tested for the rest of our lives,without even knowing it. That's why we need
to get off these mind alterring drugs,NOW. Have a great day.Peace out.
actually not too bad, like i said mostly the chills (this is just cutting back 2mg at a time) BUT i had some stomach cramping last night, but other than that not bad....i really am excited to get to just 8mgs daily, that cuts the cost to only a forth of what i was paying at first...i was on 32 mgs daily at first (thats is 4 , 8mg pills) the cost for 1 script of 30 is $170.00 weekly...i will be soo happy when i get it down to $170.00 monthly...plus i am uninsured ...i let my truck get repossesed so i can continue my treatment...now thats dedication!!! (LOL) i used to get real nervous around doctors too (they are so superior to us) .....NOT!!! but my doc is young and really nice....i got lucky this time. it ok about not posting i HAD to actually leave the house today to go school shopping for my boys, i hate leaving my house, i have agoraphobia with panic...so when i leave the house i have to dose up on klonipin, i just started that, but i am not sure its working...i still had some trouble on the way home...because i just wanted to be home and couldnt get here fast enough...stupid huh? i cant beleive what has happened to my brain from drug abuse...its pretty scary...i am definately not the same person i was before...a little glimmer of the old me shows up once in a while...but i could be mostly gone forever....and to think...i did this to myself...sick and twisted, HUH? talk to you later, have a good one...peace&love
How are yoy doing today? Sorry I didn't post lately,was busy going yard
work all day.I asked my father,what I should do. He said to tell the truth.
Sure I will.LOL. I'm not going to tell my new Dr. anything more than he
asks for,since I usually say to much or the wrong things. I've gotten
screwed before,by telling the Dr. that I will show him my pharmacy
presciption history. That has literally scared the **** out of one Dr.
He was wondering,how I was still breathing,me too.LOL. By the way,
how are you doing with the tapering? I feel for ya,since I do know
how hard withdrawls can be,even though I'm not currently going thru
them.Hang in there and I'll talk to ya soon. Peace.
work all day.I asked my father,what I should do. He said to tell the truth.
Sure I will.LOL. I'm not going to tell my new Dr. anything more than he
asks for,since I usually say to much or the wrong things. I've gotten
screwed before,by telling the Dr. that I will show him my pharmacy
presciption history. That has literally scared the **** out of one Dr.
He was wondering,how I was still breathing,me too.LOL. By the way,
how are you doing with the tapering? I feel for ya,since I do know
how hard withdrawls can be,even though I'm not currently going thru
them.Hang in there and I'll talk to ya soon. Peace.
i am sorry i dont know what you should say to him...when i finally was ready to face my addiction i went to the doc that was prescribing me alot of vicoprofen, i told him i was worried that i had a problem with the meds, and asked him to help me...he immediately left the room, sent his nurse in to tell me to find another doctor that he couldnt help me, i went to 1 more doctor after that with the same reaction, so i gave up and went into full blown addiction and at some point i decided i had to do something or i was going to die or commit suicide... so that is a touchy subject with me, i tried honesty and was left to fend for myself with no help or guidence. so i dont DARE tell you what to say to new doc... it would scare me if the same thing happened to you because of some advice i gave...so sorry. everything i have done to get clean...i have done ALONE...only help and support from my husband,my sub. doctor and now therapy. i had horrible WD'S with the transition from methadone to the sub, terrible for 4 days...but now when i cut back, i wake up with EXTREME chilled to the bone feeling, i cover up , take a nap, and its gone when i wake up... its not bad...YET...but i hear it will be the lower i get in mgs....not looking forward to that!!!
Did you have major symptoms from tapering off the Sub? I know I will have
severe consequences when I try to taper the Methadone. That's probably
why I have not tried to do it more than once after I failed going C/T. Can't
wait till Monday. Seeing my first new PM Dr. in 5 years. Just hope he
dosen't get a bug up his butt about my usage. Should I be honest with
him about how much Oxy I take,or should I just tell him it doesn't work
anymore,since I've built up a very high tolerance to it in the last 5 years?
It super important on what I say to him about the reason I'm coming to
him besides the point I needed someone local and couldn't afford to keep
going up North every month.I'm happy,but scared as hell,because he will
be my only hope as far as getting any releif from this nightmare I'm going
through.You have to have all your records sent to a new Dr. down here,before
they will see you,and especially prescribe you anything. It's not like that up
North. The total time between me telling my old Dr. I needed my records
sent to Fl was 3 weeks with my wife screaming at the lazy ******* that
worked there. Do they even realize the seriousness of this situation? Since
I am a new patient,all the PM's down here are not able to just "Squeeze Me
In". Is that because they have to do extra typing to get me in the sysytem?
These lazy asses make me sick. If they were in any of the patients shoes,
they'd understand the severity of needing to get in somewhere right away.
It was a month and a halffrom the time the new Dr. got my records and gave
me a date to be seen,do you beleive that? It's at least a month or more wait
down here for any PM center to see a new patient. That's a crime.in my eyes.
The main reason I'm going to this place,is the fact that they accept my new
insurance,that's basically it. Can't afford to go to a cash place. We'll see what
happens. Wish me luck and hope you would give me an opinion on what to
tell this guy? Have a good day and thanks in advance.
severe consequences when I try to taper the Methadone. That's probably
why I have not tried to do it more than once after I failed going C/T. Can't
wait till Monday. Seeing my first new PM Dr. in 5 years. Just hope he
dosen't get a bug up his butt about my usage. Should I be honest with
him about how much Oxy I take,or should I just tell him it doesn't work
anymore,since I've built up a very high tolerance to it in the last 5 years?
It super important on what I say to him about the reason I'm coming to
him besides the point I needed someone local and couldn't afford to keep
going up North every month.I'm happy,but scared as hell,because he will
be my only hope as far as getting any releif from this nightmare I'm going
through.You have to have all your records sent to a new Dr. down here,before
they will see you,and especially prescribe you anything. It's not like that up
North. The total time between me telling my old Dr. I needed my records
sent to Fl was 3 weeks with my wife screaming at the lazy ******* that
worked there. Do they even realize the seriousness of this situation? Since
I am a new patient,all the PM's down here are not able to just "Squeeze Me
In". Is that because they have to do extra typing to get me in the sysytem?
These lazy asses make me sick. If they were in any of the patients shoes,
they'd understand the severity of needing to get in somewhere right away.
It was a month and a halffrom the time the new Dr. got my records and gave
me a date to be seen,do you beleive that? It's at least a month or more wait
down here for any PM center to see a new patient. That's a crime.in my eyes.
The main reason I'm going to this place,is the fact that they accept my new
insurance,that's basically it. Can't afford to go to a cash place. We'll see what
happens. Wish me luck and hope you would give me an opinion on what to
tell this guy? Have a good day and thanks in advance.
its nice here in NH, but not much to do, i have lived here my whole life..been there, done that. and it definately isnt the place to be (very northern NH) if you have an addiction problem, nothing for options without driving 2-3 hours each way, no meth clinics, no detox places....NOTHING!! which is why i went the suboxone route. so far so good ,,,started at 32 mgs daily, i am now down to 10mgs daily and weekly therapy, gotta keep on trudging through this mess i got myself into, some days are REALLY bad, but getting better every day, i can even see some of the "old me" popping in here and there...not sure if that is a good sign or not???? have a good one, and keep on trudging
I'd love to live up there. I hate this poor excuse for a state. The heat this summer is
just brutal and we are not even having a hot summer this year.LOL.
I'm not really stuck as far as more surgeries go,since they are all done,
the 2 I had already. I never even had the rest of my body checked for any
type of joint problems yet. I don't need anymore problems,you blame me?
One of the surgeons asked me how my shoulder's were. I said don't I have
enough issues already with my damn hips? So long as I don't drink or
do coke I guess,I won't have any more diease issues. I was riding my bike
for 20 miles everyday when I was doing that junk,and I told the Dr's that I
thought that that's what wore out my joint so fast. He said no,but it had to
be a combination of all of those things. I had lost my DL when I was arrested
the second time,so I went 10 miles each way to go get the drugs almost everyday
for years. I had my DL suspended for almost 3 years,can you beleive that? All
because I couldn't afford a lawyer and got shafted by a Public Pretender. Al
this stuff happened like 11 years ago,though. Just thought you'd like to
get a laugh.Got to get some sleep,too.Good night and God Bless.
just brutal and we are not even having a hot summer this year.LOL.
I'm not really stuck as far as more surgeries go,since they are all done,
the 2 I had already. I never even had the rest of my body checked for any
type of joint problems yet. I don't need anymore problems,you blame me?
One of the surgeons asked me how my shoulder's were. I said don't I have
enough issues already with my damn hips? So long as I don't drink or
do coke I guess,I won't have any more diease issues. I was riding my bike
for 20 miles everyday when I was doing that junk,and I told the Dr's that I
thought that that's what wore out my joint so fast. He said no,but it had to
be a combination of all of those things. I had lost my DL when I was arrested
the second time,so I went 10 miles each way to go get the drugs almost everyday
for years. I had my DL suspended for almost 3 years,can you beleive that? All
because I couldn't afford a lawyer and got shafted by a Public Pretender. Al
this stuff happened like 11 years ago,though. Just thought you'd like to
get a laugh.Got to get some sleep,too.Good night and God Bless.
i wont yell at you...but better watch out for mrfreakinnotbrave...what a freak he was...he said he was a she but i still beleive it was a man...what type of woman would have a screen name like that, sounds like some mid-evil warrior. dont worry about that wierdo,we all got a good laugh at his expense though didnt we...i thought i was going to pee my pants, i hadnt laughed like that for a long time....boy dave it sounds like you are really stuck...are theses docs you are going to (the new one) are they specailists?? are you done with surgery or will there be more to come?? well just hold onto hope that he will be a really nice man who really cares...i finally found one and i switched my whole family to him...i will never go to another doc...i hope he doesnt move...he is getting married at the end of the month!! well maybe you and your wife should move to NH so you can see my doc? i wish everyone had a doctor like mine, hes young and good looking too, which i am sure you dont really care about...but maybe your wife would???LOL LOL !! have a good night keep the chin up and talk to you tomorrow...
It was very hard to even find a dr. in my area who would except my craptacular
insurance,never mind wait in severe pain for more weeks or months to try to
find a "Nice" Dr. or surgeon. Your right,they are all assholes,so what's the
difference who cuts me,right? The jackass that cut me the first time was a
real peice of work. Listen to this. I had the 1st hip done by him. He said to
get in shape and come back in about 4 months,so we can schedule your
next cut. O.K. mind you,about 2 months into it,I descided to call him up
and ask him a question,the nurse says that we don't except your insurance
anymore. Holy ****,what a complete *****. Here I am in agony with one hip
recouperating and one deteriorating and extremely painful,to say the least.
You'd think someone would have called me up from the office,to say to go
find another surgeron to do your other hip,but hell no,that was way to much
to ask for an *******,who got about $40K from my insurance provider to
cut me up. Do you beleive that? So,now I had to waste more time and energy
to find another ***** to butcher me. It took about another 6 -8 months for the
visits of other A-holes and to finally agree to have one cut me. Who wants to
have 2 different hips from different Dr's and of a different material,to boot?
By the way,AVN stands for Avascular Necrosis,sorry for the RAMBLINGS.LOL.
Hope I don't get yelled at by someone.Good night or good morning.
insurance,never mind wait in severe pain for more weeks or months to try to
find a "Nice" Dr. or surgeon. Your right,they are all assholes,so what's the
difference who cuts me,right? The jackass that cut me the first time was a
real peice of work. Listen to this. I had the 1st hip done by him. He said to
get in shape and come back in about 4 months,so we can schedule your
next cut. O.K. mind you,about 2 months into it,I descided to call him up
and ask him a question,the nurse says that we don't except your insurance
anymore. Holy ****,what a complete *****. Here I am in agony with one hip
recouperating and one deteriorating and extremely painful,to say the least.
You'd think someone would have called me up from the office,to say to go
find another surgeron to do your other hip,but hell no,that was way to much
to ask for an *******,who got about $40K from my insurance provider to
cut me up. Do you beleive that? So,now I had to waste more time and energy
to find another ***** to butcher me. It took about another 6 -8 months for the
visits of other A-holes and to finally agree to have one cut me. Who wants to
have 2 different hips from different Dr's and of a different material,to boot?
By the way,AVN stands for Avascular Necrosis,sorry for the RAMBLINGS.LOL.
Hope I don't get yelled at by someone.Good night or good morning.
and dont feel like its only you...doctors are assholes to everybody, not just you hun....dont be so hard on yourself, your a good person and dont deserve treatment like that from anyone!!!! nitey-nite
what does AVN stand for..i forget things easily....most doctors are real *******, i have had a few with absolutly no bedside mannerism...and i let them have it!!! your getting paid thousands of dollars by your patients and you treat me like this...NOT...i will walk out and go elsewhere...and you should too...and you can always place a complaint with the hospital...i only did that once,,,but for good reason...
No,since they are both 1200 miles from my house and when I was up there for my
Pm Dr.,I only wanted to get my meds and not have to deal with both those SOB's.
I'm not saying that because they intentionally messed my hips up on purpose.
Just the fact that both treated me badly,since they knew I was an addict and that's
what made me need the surgeries. I still don't think they should have treated me
the way they both did. Hey,if us addicts don't mess up our hips besides the older
folks,who are they going to operate on,then?LOL I know if I go to see either one and
they treat me like a "junkie" I'll crackem' one and be on my way to jail,that's mainly
why I haven't gone to see them. I know myself and know that I have a short temper
these days,not that I'm a Bully or Jerk. Just that I've been through so much and have
really bad opinions of Dr's lately,mainly do to the fact that most every one I have seen
asks "Why have you had to have your hips replaced?" An accident.? Yeah,an accident
with nose candy and a bottle that lasted ten years.LOL. I don't tell them that,just tell
them I don't know. There are only 4 factors that can cause AVN. Let them figure it out.
What's the difference why they are replaced ,anyway? Are they going to treat me
differently if I tell them I was an addict? You bet!!! As you can see,I still have my sense
of humor,right? If I lose that,then I'll pack it in. If you can ask that guy about his pain in
his hips,I'd really appreciate it? Thanks for being so nice to me,when everyone including
the Dr's treat me like ****.God Bless you.
Pm Dr.,I only wanted to get my meds and not have to deal with both those SOB's.
I'm not saying that because they intentionally messed my hips up on purpose.
Just the fact that both treated me badly,since they knew I was an addict and that's
what made me need the surgeries. I still don't think they should have treated me
the way they both did. Hey,if us addicts don't mess up our hips besides the older
folks,who are they going to operate on,then?LOL I know if I go to see either one and
they treat me like a "junkie" I'll crackem' one and be on my way to jail,that's mainly
why I haven't gone to see them. I know myself and know that I have a short temper
these days,not that I'm a Bully or Jerk. Just that I've been through so much and have
really bad opinions of Dr's lately,mainly do to the fact that most every one I have seen
asks "Why have you had to have your hips replaced?" An accident.? Yeah,an accident
with nose candy and a bottle that lasted ten years.LOL. I don't tell them that,just tell
them I don't know. There are only 4 factors that can cause AVN. Let them figure it out.
What's the difference why they are replaced ,anyway? Are they going to treat me
differently if I tell them I was an addict? You bet!!! As you can see,I still have my sense
of humor,right? If I lose that,then I'll pack it in. If you can ask that guy about his pain in
his hips,I'd really appreciate it? Thanks for being so nice to me,when everyone including
the Dr's treat me like ****.God Bless you.
have you ever gone back to doctors that did the hip replacement? i know of a man down the street that has had both hips replaced...he walks like he is in pain...but i will ask him when i see him how his experience was...keep the hope.
I guess your right about me peobably being on the meds for life. The messed up
part about all this is,the fact that the hip replacements were done,so that I would
be free from the "Bone-on-Bone" pain I was experiencing as my hips deteriorated.
Go figure. I know some guy that's my age who had one hip replaced and he is
never in any pain,WTF? He is in no pain and takes no meds. Is there something
wrong with me mentally,that maybe since I was an addict before that I screwed
my nervous system up permanently? A Triage nurse at the hospital looked at me
like a POS,when I told her what I was there for. She said she had a hip replaced
and has no pain. Why don't you just slap me in the face again,people. Maybe
both my surgeons just butchered me?Who know's,they are very involved surgeries
anyway. The Ortho's I went to locally kept telling me to go back to the Dr's that did
my hips. For what? If that Dr. didn't see anything wrong with my Xray,then you
really think the Dr.s that did them will see anything either,especially not admit to
anything either? Isn't that like a bar admitting that they sold acohol to minors?LOL.
My whole point about the whining,is that I don't want to have anymore health issues,
especially from taking so much meds and damaging my liver and kidneys,you know?
That's basically what I want off of at least the meds I'm on,because I'm so tolerant to
them and have to abuse the **** out of them just to get a tad of releif.Thanks for your
support.Peace.
part about all this is,the fact that the hip replacements were done,so that I would
be free from the "Bone-on-Bone" pain I was experiencing as my hips deteriorated.
Go figure. I know some guy that's my age who had one hip replaced and he is
never in any pain,WTF? He is in no pain and takes no meds. Is there something
wrong with me mentally,that maybe since I was an addict before that I screwed
my nervous system up permanently? A Triage nurse at the hospital looked at me
like a POS,when I told her what I was there for. She said she had a hip replaced
and has no pain. Why don't you just slap me in the face again,people. Maybe
both my surgeons just butchered me?Who know's,they are very involved surgeries
anyway. The Ortho's I went to locally kept telling me to go back to the Dr's that did
my hips. For what? If that Dr. didn't see anything wrong with my Xray,then you
really think the Dr.s that did them will see anything either,especially not admit to
anything either? Isn't that like a bar admitting that they sold acohol to minors?LOL.
My whole point about the whining,is that I don't want to have anymore health issues,
especially from taking so much meds and damaging my liver and kidneys,you know?
That's basically what I want off of at least the meds I'm on,because I'm so tolerant to
them and have to abuse the **** out of them just to get a tad of releif.Thanks for your
support.Peace.
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