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Quitting Tramadol cold turkey while pregnant
Hi there, i need to talk to someone who was successful at stopping Tramadol cold turkey while pregnant. I am 33 weeks pregnant and my doctors will not do a slow taper so i have no choice but to quit CT.
Hi there -
No, the thread is not open, but we don't lock threads.
Kylie, if you'd like support, please feel free to start a new thread by clicking on the orange Post Question button. It's okay to disagree, but it isn't ever appropriate for members to be insulting or continue to fight again and again.
Honestly, your doctor is really the only one that should be advising you about this, especially given your pregnancy. He can monitor to you, and offer you more advice if tapering by 1 pill a day is too hard.
This thread remains closed.
Emily
No, the thread is not open, but we don't lock threads.
Kylie, if you'd like support, please feel free to start a new thread by clicking on the orange Post Question button. It's okay to disagree, but it isn't ever appropriate for members to be insulting or continue to fight again and again.
Honestly, your doctor is really the only one that should be advising you about this, especially given your pregnancy. He can monitor to you, and offer you more advice if tapering by 1 pill a day is too hard.
This thread remains closed.
Emily
I still want this thread open, i haven't even started yet and would like support still. What's the point of starting another thread when disagreements can happen anywhere.
I appreciate everyone's advice and honestly it is not about seeing more docs at the point. In 6 weeks or so my baby will be here and i can either quit Ct now or she will go CT when she is born. My OB and pain doc will not prescribe me any more pills to taper slow.
I appreciate everyone's advice and honestly it is not about seeing more docs at the point. In 6 weeks or so my baby will be here and i can either quit Ct now or she will go CT when she is born. My OB and pain doc will not prescribe me any more pills to taper slow.
Ok everyone, enough already.
This is not about "sides" and who is on who's side. Everyone here is truly just trying to help, and are on Kylie and her baby's side. That's it, even if people are disagreeing.
Kylie, just be really careful with whatever option you choose, and please keep an open line of communication with your doctor. You may also want to talk to him about setting up some kind of support for now, and after you deliver, like after care counseling, 12 steps, etc.
Kylie has received a wide variety of answers now, so I'm closing this thread. Please remember that only her doctor knows her medical history, etc., and giving advice on tapering and going CT can be dangerous.
Emily
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NO MORE POSTS, PLEASE
This is not about "sides" and who is on who's side. Everyone here is truly just trying to help, and are on Kylie and her baby's side. That's it, even if people are disagreeing.
Kylie, just be really careful with whatever option you choose, and please keep an open line of communication with your doctor. You may also want to talk to him about setting up some kind of support for now, and after you deliver, like after care counseling, 12 steps, etc.
Kylie has received a wide variety of answers now, so I'm closing this thread. Please remember that only her doctor knows her medical history, etc., and giving advice on tapering and going CT can be dangerous.
Emily
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NO MORE POSTS, PLEASE
" I have discussed the with my OB, a certified pain doc, and this family practice doc- they ALL didn't even give it a 2nd thought- they said that CT will be ok"
So what part of what she posted above you don't understand?
You seem like you will not be happy until she finds a OB that agrees with you?
Please she made up her mind, allow her to be as comfortable as she can with this.
Example lets say she see's another OB and he takes your side so to speak then look what you have done, only to confuse and upset her cuz now it becomes a real mess. Just let her be afterall she needs to do what feels right for her not for you nor me nor anyone else.
Peace out
Michael
So what part of what she posted above you don't understand?
You seem like you will not be happy until she finds a OB that agrees with you?
Please she made up her mind, allow her to be as comfortable as she can with this.
Example lets say she see's another OB and he takes your side so to speak then look what you have done, only to confuse and upset her cuz now it becomes a real mess. Just let her be afterall she needs to do what feels right for her not for you nor me nor anyone else.
Peace out
Michael
Michael, please stop apologizing for me. I can take care of myself. (sorry kylie, for the interruption, but honestly, it needed to be said). This forum is a place where we can all share our opinions, and it's up to each and every individual to take the information and apply it in whatever way is appropriate.
And by the way, talking to a Dr. is never a bad idea. And kylie, you've only seen one OB. The other Dr.'s can have their opinions, but why not talk to another OB who understand pregnancy and addiction?
I honestly do wish you luck and as said earlier, I will continue to keep good thoughts for you.
And by the way, talking to a Dr. is never a bad idea. And kylie, you've only seen one OB. The other Dr.'s can have their opinions, but why not talk to another OB who understand pregnancy and addiction?
I honestly do wish you luck and as said earlier, I will continue to keep good thoughts for you.
Your most welcome and yes please keep posting and stay connected..
Best
Michael
Best
Michael
Thank you Michael!! I just don't know what else to do- i will keep posting and next week i am going to need support.
Good for you it's best to stick with your guns and you had 3 doctors tell you the same so go for it. Members here are truly trying to help but at times their zeal to help may over rule them so forgive them we all wish you the very best. You also shared going from 20 pills a day down to 6 that's great and also a good indication you will be fine going CT on Monday.
We all wish only the best for you
Michael
We all wish only the best for you
Michael
My doctors are experienced! I have 3 opinions of docs under my belt, i dont have the time or money to keep going and going until one of them helps. Trust me, i was scared and mad that they wanted ne to taper 1 a day. But they assured me over and over that it was fine. Yes i am honest with them! They know i was taking almost 20 pills a day a few weeks ago...now at 6. So i went CT from 20 to 12 in a day and slowly now to 6. U guys need to read all my posts better before u comment. In my initial post i am asking to talk to someone who already went thru this being pregnant...i do appreciate ur guys advice but when u tell me that i need to talk to more docs, it really confuses and frustrates me as i have already talked to 3 very experienced docs. I know all over the internet it says to taper very slowly and i told the docs this but they still made up their mind.
Sorry for the multiple posts..
Did you tell these doctors how much you're REALLY taking, do they know you abuse it, or do they think you take it as prescribed? It's a VERY important question.
Did you tell these doctors how much you're REALLY taking, do they know you abuse it, or do they think you take it as prescribed? It's a VERY important question.
I see that you sought a few opinions, it's not that all the docs are wrong, I don't think you're asking the RIGHT docs. You need a specialist OB, one who has experience working with addiction.
I too agree with getting a second opinion, from a doctor who you're sure has experience with this. It can't hurt right?
The general rule is that going CT while pregnant is far more dangerous than doing a taper. There is risk of preterm labor, seizures, among other things (and the seizure risk at your dose isn't minimal, and it isn't over-dramatized, it's a very real risk).
No one is telling you this to scare you, but because it IS the generally accepted correct way to discontinue a med like tramadol while pregnant. I understand you want to trust your doctor, and there's nothing wrong with that, but unfortunately many doctors have little to no experience dealing with women taking addictive meds like this. Call your local women's hospital, explain the situation, and ask if they can recommend someone to you.
We just want you and baby to be safe, has nothing to do with scaring you whatsoever. If you still are inclined to not want to hear what we're saying, I would strongly urge you to do a google search for "risks of stopping tramadol cold turkey while pregnant" and just read some of the results. You will see forum after forum after forum offering the exact same advice. It's hard to discount that. That's really the same answer you'll see over and over.
And as for you monitoring your baby, unfortunately, unless you're in the hospital, on a fetal monitor, YOU wouldn't always be able to tell something is wrong until it's too late. I genuinely think the desire to hide this from your husband is a strong motivating factor, and I understand that you're scared, but you really want to do what's right for your baby, and that is not going CT from 6 or 7 trams a day.
Very best to you. Hang in there!
The general rule is that going CT while pregnant is far more dangerous than doing a taper. There is risk of preterm labor, seizures, among other things (and the seizure risk at your dose isn't minimal, and it isn't over-dramatized, it's a very real risk).
No one is telling you this to scare you, but because it IS the generally accepted correct way to discontinue a med like tramadol while pregnant. I understand you want to trust your doctor, and there's nothing wrong with that, but unfortunately many doctors have little to no experience dealing with women taking addictive meds like this. Call your local women's hospital, explain the situation, and ask if they can recommend someone to you.
We just want you and baby to be safe, has nothing to do with scaring you whatsoever. If you still are inclined to not want to hear what we're saying, I would strongly urge you to do a google search for "risks of stopping tramadol cold turkey while pregnant" and just read some of the results. You will see forum after forum after forum offering the exact same advice. It's hard to discount that. That's really the same answer you'll see over and over.
And as for you monitoring your baby, unfortunately, unless you're in the hospital, on a fetal monitor, YOU wouldn't always be able to tell something is wrong until it's too late. I genuinely think the desire to hide this from your husband is a strong motivating factor, and I understand that you're scared, but you really want to do what's right for your baby, and that is not going CT from 6 or 7 trams a day.
Very best to you. Hang in there!
I appreciate everyone's concern and advice..
Imdonenomore- im not sure what else to do!! You say to get another opinion and that is what i did today! I have discussed the with my OB, a certified pain doc, and this family practice doc- they ALL didn't even give it a 2nd thought- they said that CT will be ok. The pain doc tapered me at 1 pill dropped a day which is CT because dropping 1 pill is fast!! None of them even mentioned giving me additional meds to help with CT. So either i have bad luck and docs who are incorrect OR i can trust what they say. I'm worried about my baby too and that is why i have been seeing docs and doing research on this! Also do u get what i put in my earlier post? If i wasn't ready to come off tramadol before the baby is born- she would go thru CT w/d's anyway...and all the docs agree that it is better for the baby to detox with me while inside rather than on her own. So right there proves that either way i go...she will have to detox. Yes i could continue to taper...but tapering has been extremely difficult already and im not sure i would follow thru. I mean i already messed up while i was tapering for the pain doc and didn't stay on the right doses because i found more pills. I am going to beat this next week!!!
Michael- thank u for sticking up for me.... I just think CT is the best solution for me, especially since it is oerfect timing and i have all next week clear on my schedule and alone.
It is going to be rough and painful but i am going to carefully monitor my baby thru this...if i feel the slightest thing is wrong i will call my OB. I am going to be as calm as i can and beat this!!!
Imdonenomore- im not sure what else to do!! You say to get another opinion and that is what i did today! I have discussed the with my OB, a certified pain doc, and this family practice doc- they ALL didn't even give it a 2nd thought- they said that CT will be ok. The pain doc tapered me at 1 pill dropped a day which is CT because dropping 1 pill is fast!! None of them even mentioned giving me additional meds to help with CT. So either i have bad luck and docs who are incorrect OR i can trust what they say. I'm worried about my baby too and that is why i have been seeing docs and doing research on this! Also do u get what i put in my earlier post? If i wasn't ready to come off tramadol before the baby is born- she would go thru CT w/d's anyway...and all the docs agree that it is better for the baby to detox with me while inside rather than on her own. So right there proves that either way i go...she will have to detox. Yes i could continue to taper...but tapering has been extremely difficult already and im not sure i would follow thru. I mean i already messed up while i was tapering for the pain doc and didn't stay on the right doses because i found more pills. I am going to beat this next week!!!
Michael- thank u for sticking up for me.... I just think CT is the best solution for me, especially since it is oerfect timing and i have all next week clear on my schedule and alone.
It is going to be rough and painful but i am going to carefully monitor my baby thru this...if i feel the slightest thing is wrong i will call my OB. I am going to be as calm as i can and beat this!!!
Going cold turkey while pregnant shpuld not be done bc the baby can dtox bad an cause problems an complications that can result in miscarriages. You should slowly back yourself down. I was opiate dependent foe the first 3mos of this pregnancy i am curently in my second trimester an have been clean for a month i backed my levels down an went into the methadone clinic here. Bc i found the strength to realize i couldn't do it all by myself an needed help an finally grew a pair an went an found the help. An when i did i realized im not alone in this battle. Keep your head up stay strong. An if you need someone to talk to thats pregnant thats going threw what you are going threw message me on here.
I just want both Kylie and her baby to be safe. That truly is my only concern.
And Kylie, please know that I am not trying to scare you and I hope I didn't come across as insensitive. That has never been my style. This comes from sincere concern, and nothing more. Please don't misunderstand. But what would it hurt to see another OB just to be absolutely sure you are making the right decision? That's all I'm trying to say.
And Kylie, please know that I am not trying to scare you and I hope I didn't come across as insensitive. That has never been my style. This comes from sincere concern, and nothing more. Please don't misunderstand. But what would it hurt to see another OB just to be absolutely sure you are making the right decision? That's all I'm trying to say.
Actually the high seizure risk while going CT is much overplayed. Now the seizure risk and rate while taking lots of Trams is high. I was taking 40 pills a day , 2000 mg and went CT and never had a seizure but I certainly had them while on the Trams.
At 350 mg per day the doctor is correct that there is little risk in going CT.
To be honest if I read correctly she is due to give birth in 7 weeks. This is certainly enough time to do a proper taper but what if she can't and relapses and does more Trams. I am sure this is a concern of the doctor. There are meds the doctor can give her to help during the first few days of quitting. I do hope she can ask her doctor about this. I know we are all trying to help but please if her comment scares the hell out of you consider how she feels right now. I am sure she is not jumping for joy after hearing her doctor advice.
Michael
At 350 mg per day the doctor is correct that there is little risk in going CT.
To be honest if I read correctly she is due to give birth in 7 weeks. This is certainly enough time to do a proper taper but what if she can't and relapses and does more Trams. I am sure this is a concern of the doctor. There are meds the doctor can give her to help during the first few days of quitting. I do hope she can ask her doctor about this. I know we are all trying to help but please if her comment scares the hell out of you consider how she feels right now. I am sure she is not jumping for joy after hearing her doctor advice.
Michael
Hi Kylie, I'm glad to see you still posting.
But I have to say this... your plan scares the hell out of me. My concern is that you've decided to go with this Dr. only because he is telling you exactly what you want to hear. And honestly, every post I have ever read on this forum advises pregnant women to taper. Why this Dr. would believe otherwise is beyond me, but of course, entitled to his opinion. But please, consider seeing another OB, and see what they have to say. This is too important. And I can't help but wonder if this Dr. really does know anything about tramadol, because it's a very tricky drug and the withdrawals are rough. Especially with the anti-depressant quality contained in this med, which is probably why there is such a high seizure risk associated when quitting cold turkey. Please, please give this some more thought, okay?
I hope this doesn't seem harsh, I definitely don't mean it to be. I only want to see you do what's best for your baby, and you.
But I have to say this... your plan scares the hell out of me. My concern is that you've decided to go with this Dr. only because he is telling you exactly what you want to hear. And honestly, every post I have ever read on this forum advises pregnant women to taper. Why this Dr. would believe otherwise is beyond me, but of course, entitled to his opinion. But please, consider seeing another OB, and see what they have to say. This is too important. And I can't help but wonder if this Dr. really does know anything about tramadol, because it's a very tricky drug and the withdrawals are rough. Especially with the anti-depressant quality contained in this med, which is probably why there is such a high seizure risk associated when quitting cold turkey. Please, please give this some more thought, okay?
I hope this doesn't seem harsh, I definitely don't mean it to be. I only want to see you do what's best for your baby, and you.
Very good dear sounds like the doctor does make a lot of sense.
One thing to remember Trams have anti-depressant qualities so just watch the pt postpartum blues after you give birth. As a matter of fact this would be a good question to bring up next time you speak with your new doctor.
Wishing you all the best
Michael
One thing to remember Trams have anti-depressant qualities so just watch the pt postpartum blues after you give birth. As a matter of fact this would be a good question to bring up next time you speak with your new doctor.
Wishing you all the best
Michael
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