Sick As A Dog

[set_free_me]

I have been taking 10 750 vicodins 1 200 mg Ultram and 4 65 darvons a day for about the last year how long does the withdrawel take? The worst is back pain belly pain and depression if I start taking the drugs again it goes away what is areasonable time for this to go away? Thanks

[Calzy]

Glad to hear you want to make some changes in your life and it's to bad we have to hit rock bottom or run our bodies into the ground before we wake up but it leaves a lasting inpression to want to quit. The withdrawal's seem like the hardest part because of all the aches pains that seem to go on forever because we are awake most of the time but the worst of the w/d's is usually over within the 1st week. Than what we over look the most, as bettie said, is dealing with the mental aspect's of addiction and without a plan and goals set up and in your face everyday, you set yourself up for possible failure each day. Thats why forum's like this and AA-NA meetings, counseling, reading about it along with exercise, a good diet and whatever it takes to replenish your body and fill your mind to have an answer or reaction when a graving comes on or a person, place or thing set's off a trigger, you will know what to do. Best of luck to you.  

[bettie1976]

you just get well physically then start trying meetings or therapy. your body needs time to heal. being on here helps a lot of us too who dont/cant go to meetings.

[set_free_me]

did not know they had that only if I could get my sick a$$ out of bed to try and find somthing like that. Right now just knowing others on here have already been through it and have made it is my hope.

[lunachick]

Narcotic Anonymous meetings...like AA for drug addicts..

[set_free_me]

What do you mean by meetings?

[bettie1976]

perfect. lub ya

[lunachick]

i agree. i had the longest clean time after being in an actual 30 day rehab, which helped me with the aftercare plan, I'm just saying, since some can't afford that and all..maybe doing a taper and for sure going to some meetings...?? better than nothing. Meetings can be kinda like a form of therapy. You can get everything off your chest, and find others to support you..

[bettie1976]

but which has the biggest success rate I wonder?  I think you need to have in place, a plan for when youre done with the pills, therapy, outpatient counseling, meetings, etc...to KEEP you sober

[lunachick]

theres only three things you can do...either taper (which isn't impossible regardless of what anyone "thinks") go cold turkey, or go to a detox. All three have worked for me..

[bettie1976]

if you cannot taper then id suggest a detox facility, worked wonders for me.

[set_free_me]

it keeps getting worse does it at least stop getting worse at some point? I know I do not have the will power to taper I am a pill piggy. I just need to put out of my misery at this point, the damn depression, can't sleep, shittin, sweats, I feel like ****.

[beachtowel]

An addict binges it is in their nature that is why there addicts they cannot control the amount of intake of narcotics.........
The drugs have the power not the addict..........

If the addict got a bottle of oxycotins and took it as perscribed they would not be an addict at worst they would be chemical dependent........

Some here will try to say that oxycotin is not taken for a buzz........
thats bull..........
An addict is going to have fun with oxycotins ..........

I am not saying it is impossible for an addict to taper down using suboxone or subutex  but to taper with disapline with oxycotins, perc, vics, thats a joke........

[lunachick]

yeah lots of people (self included) are tapering or have tapered successfully. It's a hell of a lot easier than going cold turkey...

[bettie1976]

i meant dont do that with all 3 meds. just try tapering from one.

[bettie1976]

you could try tapering off them. every 3 days take one less than you did the day before and so on until you get to the last 3 days then start splitting them in halves, in quarters, etc...but just do one kind. dont do that will all.

[set_free_me]

right now its really bad just knowing taking the pills will make it better damn im hurting.

[lunachick]

mixing the ultram in there might make it a tad harder as well. Those are hell to get off alone..

[beachtowel]

your looking at 5 days of heavy flu symtoms..........
grab some amodium and somthing PM to help you sleep........

focus on about 5 days then it will become a big frigging mental game.......

[set_free_me]

Thanks for your response I started using for back pain it was so bad i could not even drive my car or walk 15 ft. I knew the vicodin was addictive but knew nothing of ultram or darvon the Doc told me they where not addicting. Right now it seems like it would be easy to just take the damn pills. Hope I can last it out.

[bettie1976]

just depression and figuring out why you started taking them in the first place (if it wasnt for a legitimate reason) anxiety etc.....

[set_free_me]

Thanks I almost do no want to know but what is the mental pain??

[bettie1976]

oh but the worst is the first few days. then you just have to deal with the mental pain.

[bettie1976]

usually lasts about 4-7 days.