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Suboxone

My husband managed to decrease from 8 mg to 6 mg of suboxone, yesterday I accompanied him to the doctor, and I recommend increasing the drug to 8 mg again, to decrease again, I do not prescribe anything to help with the withdrawals that are still present in him.  Why does the doctor want to increase it again?
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I echo Motye insomuch as if he's 'staying the course' and sticking with it, that's a good thing and hopefully there's an end in sight! But Cesi, I can imagine your frustrations. I've had friends put up with so much during my own tapers of benzos and barbiturates. I've accepted their help so long as I can say that I've been working on my sobriety (and working HARD), but I also know that it hasn't been a walk in the park for them. I can only imagine what it's like to be someone's spouse, especially when intimacy is a challenge. I really hope he continues to be successful and that you two can get that spark reignited again at the end of this!

~mm
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I am here because I believe a lot in God, I believe in recovery, I love him, I see him pushing day by day for his recovery, but I am human and I am exhausted, I feel very lonely, I sometimes feel that this does not end, my husband in January 2019 I went through the Suboxone detox, I spent a month sick, I was with him all that time, I was the man of the house during that time, and my husband had a relapse that same year in April, with Suboxone, and her excuse was that she found them in a drawer and put them on so she could sleep and feel a little better, it was a disappointment, very big for me, after everything we went through together, I felt betrayed, here we are again in the same starting point :(
I am confused. You say "her" excuse and "she" could sleep better?
Yes, my husband cleaned himself from the suboxone in January 2020, before I said it was in 2019, but it was in January 2020 'I was with him, a month locked up, helping him to clean himself, three months passed and he returned to the suboxone, his excuse was I wanted to sleep well
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First let me apologize for not answering your last question......I just got completely sidetracked with life....ughhhh.

If I'm understanding you right your husband went down from 8mg to 6mg but the doctor wants him back up to 8mg?  If he's still having withdrawal's and the dr maybe thinks it's affecting his blood pressure, heart rate, ability to function, it might be that he needs to get more acclimated to 8mg.  SLOW and steady is how you have to do suboxone.  It's unlike any other drug your going to get off of (which is what I think they don't tell you in the beginning).  If the doctor doesn't prescribe "comfort" drugs then 800mg Motrin will help and the supplements.  The healthier he is the better he will feel.  He will still feel like crap....but, a little better.
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You will get to the end of this assuming he adhere's to what the doctors tell him to do.  The lack of sex, lack of emotion, lack of EVERYTHING, is totally normal!  My sex life was garbage for quite awhile while I was on them.  I know your tired and frustrated........it's exhausting.  Look, I have a husband, 4 children, a small business and volunteer commitments that I had to put on hold while i got off that medicine.  My husband was at work for well over 3-4 months without me running the office b/c I was at home sick.  It was hard on him Iknow!  My daughter and daughter in law did ALL of the housework and shopping b/c I literally didn't go to any stores.  I lie.....I went to a CVS about 2 weeks in to buy Immodium and it was freezing cold....I looked like a bum with hats, scarves, sweatshirts, dirty hair, no makeup.......I garauntee the clerk was waiting for me to rob her.....lmao.  My point to that was as long as I was working towards getting off the subs, my family was willing to help me anyway possible.  If I wouldn't have worked as hard as I did I'm not sure my family would've done as much as they did?  You get what I'm saying?  HE has to be doing his part!  
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I understand perfectly what you say, he does his part, I even think even more, because he always tries to be active even when he is bad, our sex life is on pause Lol.  But I feel tired of waiting, of understanding, of not having a tender companion by my side, I feel alone, even so I continue to support him, give him love, my careful advice and attention and push along with him, but it is not easy for me. , this is the only place where I can vent and feel that they understand me
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Have you ever considered going to Al-Anon?  You should look it up in your local area and see if it's available.  It's a great support group for loved one's of addicts and will give you another place to vent and get help as well.  Continue to come on here and let us know how ya'll are doing, this would be in addition to.
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my husband went down to 4 mg of suboxone, he is taking clonidine and half a 2 mg benzodiazepine, the process is not so bad.  Been sleeping and taking gatore, but we need a pill, for body ache and tummy ache.  What do you recommend for these pains?
The body aches there's not much you can do but I did take 800mg Motrin for the aches which helped as best it could.  Leg cramping, people on here suggested the Hylands RLS which is homeopathic, I didn't have much luck with it but some did.  I used really tight compression socks (super long, the went over my thighs) , like diabetic socks.  The compression helped along with lots and lots of Epsom salt baths!  Tummy ache as in diarrea???  The immodium is what people take with that.  Along with the Gatorade try the meal replacement shakes which help as well.  A good multivitamin with magnesium, potassium and zinc!!!!  You know, I also took this stuff called L-tyrosine for my head.  It helped with the foggy crappy feeling going on inbetween my ears.  Watch the benzo's.......don't let that go overboard b/c that can be another beast to come off of.
Thank you for being a support for me, I look for all information to help my husband, and this forum has been very supportive here, just use the benzo, three days, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, from tonight onwards we will use tylenol pm , which is helping him a lot, clonidine, only at night, and trazadone, my husband is doing very well, before this process was much stronger and more painful, it is the second time leaving the suboxone, but before he did not include God in his life , his way of thinking is different, I hope to get out of this soon, and have a new husband for me, I'm proud of him
my husband, he just dropped 6mg to 4mg of suboxone, he doesn't have so many symptoms, but now his mind is crazy, he is furious, he yells at me for everything, how long is this episode?
It's normal.......the brain "misfires" are pretty common.  I found the L-Tyrosine (bought it from GNC) helped a bit with that.  Give him a couple of days with this symptom and it should calm down.  Again, hot epsom salt bath's to relax as well.....I took like 4/5 a day!  Also.....weirdly helpful is upbeat music and comedy.  Even during my sickest I could still laugh is something was funny enough and it did help!  It was almost like an involuntary reflex.  I used upbeat fighting music to help............inspiring music.....Rocky type music if you catch my drift.
I wish you success with your husband. I agree about hot baths, but with me it was no music except for delta wave sounds, and the tv had to be on something very low key. Comedy would have set me over the edge, or a gameshow, omg. I had anxiety very badly, everything had to be hush like a library.
Anyway, is he relaly serious about tapering to quit now?
Hugs,
Lily
Right now it is stable at 4mg, he will start on Wednesday, make the decrease to 2mg, we are doing well, it is not so painful, we get clonidine for each decrease and that is a real relief and help, because he does not suffer so much, my husband is strong !  I know that this time we are going to achieve it, now I see him more concerned about his health, we started looking for God a year ago he was not as committed as I see him now, with our family and with God, after being clean what awaits me ?  It will be that I will have a healthy husband, I will not lose faith
I'm glad you're not losing faith! It sounds like his actually following through with this, so that's wonderful to see. I'm hoping things continue the direction they're going. Keep us updated. I don't have much to say on the opioid front (it's not my area of experience), but I do care about your journey and hope this turns out well for you. :)
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Thank you for answering, he is now stable 6mg, but I am desperate with this situation, I do not even have sex because he does not have the desire, he says that Suboxone takes away his sexual desire, I have been going through this situation for 5 years, I am tired, worn out , of waiting and waiting for something that I do not see the way out, just be for him flattening him, I am tired of the mind and the soul, I feel alone, and this is the only place that I can vent, sometimes I wonder if he can not go to cold turkey at once, and not be lowering, to that medicine, I'm getting desperate I want this to end now
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I was reading, in the forums about anxiety, I read about people who were clean of opiums and still feel bad, they do not feel normal, and that they need opium to be able to feel normal, I am sad to read this, and it takes away all hope to see my husband well, what awaits me after my husband is clean?
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Don't be sad, these feelings decrease over time until eventually returning to normal.  When you are on opiates you brain produces more endorphins than normal and eventually some of the endorphin receptors shut down.  When you quit you feel depressed, anxious etc but this wears off gradually as time passes.   He just needs some clean time.  
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Thank you very much, hearing that gives me hope.  my husband will start to decrease again tomorrow from 4mg to 2mg!  with God and a lot of faith
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