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Is anyone else stuck on such a small dose of suboxone. It's probably smaller than a sesame a seed. Still withdraw symptoms. If I donnt take it 2 days I feel like I'm gonna jump out of my skin. Plus I already feel so weak tired and sneezing depression etc
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First, congratulations on taking steps to make a better life for yourself.  It's hard but worth it.

I'ts difficult to know where to start.  I could discuss the issues surrounding buprenorphine (suboxone) treatment for hours.  Let's start with this website:
Http://Helpmegetoffdrugs.com

This website is from  "The National Alliance of Advocates for Buprenorphine Treatment (NAABT)", so they have a particular view of suboxone for treatment of addiction.  They obviously support suboxone use for addiction but they also support 12 step programs, therapy and counseling.  Not everyone will agree with everything they propose, but it's by far light years ahead of anything I've ever read about suboxone and I've read a lot.  Information on this site will explain why small doses are so much harder to taper off of compared to the higher doses.  Look specifically for something called the 'ceiling effect'.  There's functional MRI images of brains that illustrate the concept of 'ceiling effect'  
This should help you understand why what seem like small doses are so hard to taper from.  

More important, IMHO, is the site's discussion of dependence, addiction and the reward mechanisms of the brain.  This will help you understand why suboxone is not a cure but a tool to use for your goal; to repair your brain and live drug-free.

I have lots of questions for you!  What's your addiction history, your drugs of choice (DOCs), how long have you been taking suboxone?  How are you determining your dose?  Breaking a pill up into crumbs is not accurate enough to use for a suboxone taper.  There ARE ways to do it.  Be sure to read the section on that website about taper.  They have a taper calculator that can help you design a custom taper schedule.  

If you would like some help I'd be glad to assist you with some choices.  I used suboxone 'off the street' when I could not longer afford other street drugs.  I was totally ignorant of the drug and the consequences of using it.  That led me to a stint in an out-patient treatment program that lasted a year.  I tapered off suboxone over about 6 months.  I was on .25 mg when I stopped taking it.  I was prescribed 2mg strips.  I cut those into 8 pieces.  I'm not sure I would jump at .25 if I had to do it again, I'd probably go down to .125mg, (that's 1/64 of an 8mg pill!). This drug is extremely powerful and getting off takes a good plan, a strong will and thoughtful support.  

Larry
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This is very possible and very real.  Tapering down off of the subs is the only way to avoid w/d coming off the subs...but there does come a time when you have to quit taking them.  I jumped off of 24mg per day (taken for 7 years) so when I see .25mg my brain used to think, oh, that aint' nothing to come off of. BUT it is!!!!  For sure!  Make a plan to stop.  Take some time where you can give yourself a week or two to be done with them and recover.  W/D off of that dose should NOT be as long as w/d off of my dose and my W/D lasted 3/4 weeks.  It can be done...many people on here have done it...with or without tapering.  How long have you been down to .25mg b/c if your tapering, the weak, tired sneezing, etc...could be w/d from tapering down????
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