Hey buddy, I have been there and I know what you're talking about. I think that you may have just dropped too fast. 12 mg's is a lot to kick in 12 weeks. Its great that you got down to 1 mg, do you feel ok at this level? I was never taking 12 mg, but I was taking 4-6 and i weened myself off over the course of 3 months. Granted I was never perscribed so I didnt really get a doctors consultation, but I did take suboxone for a couple years so I'm sure we felt just about the same. So what I did was cut by halves, and only recut when I felt comfortable. So I went from 4 mg (2 mg twice daily) to 2 mg once daily, that was no problem and I stayed there for about a month. Then I went to 1 mg and still that wasnt a huge problem. At 1 mg it was already hard enough to break an 8mg sub into 8 parts. When I was finally ready to go below 1 mg what I did was break it into little chunks and for the last week before I planned to go to zero, I would take tiny pieces as needed. I agree that last week I did feel really poor, but the way I see it is you are preparing yourself for the worse that is to come when you go to zero. After a week taking tiny crumbs as needed when I felt real bad, I went to nothing at all and though it was bad, it wasnt much worse then the week of doing crumbs... After two weeks of doing nothing you feel much better. I reccomend working out as much as you can when you are coming off, it really helps. Let me know if you have questions, I'd be more then happy to answer anything.
Hi everybody, I also made experience with subuxone (temgesic in switzerland) and my experience was succesfull, I started with 4 mg daily and then after a week started to go down almost every day, like 0,5 every 2 day .. then after 20 days of treatment I was taking 0,2mg daily and from there I started to brek the 0,2 mg pill in some little piece and I was only taking something when I started to feel bad.. And then sometime i could take one piece at night and nothing until like 36 hours later, my objective was to take less quantity possible and leave more time possible between each piece of subuxone.. And then sometimes I could take nothing for 3 or 4 days and one little part of a 0,2 pill when I felt like going out for a beer or something.. to feel a bit better, at least psychologically.. and then I when to nothing at all..
I really think that this treatment is much better than metadone, it's much easier to stop than metadone, the only thing is that you can not take it for long or it's the same than metadone to stop.. The ideal treatment (for me) is on 3 weeks, start with 4mg and go down to 0 in 3 weeks, like this the body don't have time to get to used to this drug ..
I had a bad beginning of year and I'm gonna start this treatment again next week, I'll comment my experience soon as I've started again...
Hope my information and experience can be useful for someone..
Regards and good luck to all.
From Spain ..
Sorry that I am not going to be of much help on this topic. However, these posts I believe, will be helping me tremendously. I tried to go cold tukey last week, (well along with the thomas recipie) well, needless to say, I only lasted two days before I broke down, and returned to my habits. So the day relapsed I made the call to a Dr. who is known to prescribe suboxone. They are supposed to call me this week with my appointment time and do an assessment. I am really nervouse abou\, I co]t being put on this medication. I'm worried that the monkey that's on my vback now, will just be traded for a newer bigger and nastier monkey. But at this point, I'm willing to try just about anything... Tapering doesn't work, I'm too far gone for that, and also going cold turkey was an instant ticket for relapse for me, and made me feel even worse, b/c it just confirmed the fact of just how much a loser I am. I'm really really scared to get start this suboxone treatment, terrified that the withdrawl will be worse than the withdrawl from my original addiction.... Good luck to you, needhelplease82, something's got to give, for you and for me, we both no life isn't easy, but you will prevail, just hang in there, I hope that one day sso, I can start seeing a little glimmer of success also... Stay strong, God has plans for us all, and it seems like you've almost got this thing beat... my thoughts are with you...
I started at 16 mg and worked my way off the subs in 64 days. Please take the time to read over the last couple of weeks as I and others have well documented what happens once you stop tapering and go into w/d. I am not sure you will be able to go to work everyday. I am not working right now but for the 1st 2 weeks of w/d I was terrible. I am now starting week 5 and for the most part every day is good and the trend is going in the right direction.
If you explain what you mean by getting sick (share the gory details) we can probably give you better suggestions on what is happening to you. Be specific.
You may have to change your expectations becuase if you do as I recommend and read all suboxone related writings over the last 2 weeks you will see that w/d is the hardest part (not the taper). You may need to take some vacation or sick days for a couple of weeks go get you thru this tough period.