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TRAM HELP. WITHDRAWAL HELP
I have a few post on here, so please forgive me that I keep writing, but I have no other outlet. I am begging all who read this to please give me a response. Let me tell you my story. 8 months ago I got injured at work. My doc gave me vicodin. I told him after 2 months and a lenghty hospital stay, that I felt like I was getting addicted to them. He switched me to tramadol 6 a day. This made me feel great and I thought the more the better. Once I found I could buy them online, it was even better. I ordered and ordered and before I knew it, I was taking 18-20 a day for the last 3 weeks before it all came crashing down. I told my wife everything and my pastor too. He thought I should go and get checked in at a Detox center. All that was last Sunday, Nov. 14th. On that day I took 13. They told me I could not detox, but just go home and do it there, becuase since it was not a narcotic, I would be uncomfortable but wouldn't die. Monday, the next day, I took 8 with a lot of fatigue and anxiety. Tuesday I did 6 with even more anxiety but I could not sleep. Today, I took 2 at 6:30 am and was anxious all day. I thought I would quit today, but by 3:30 on the same day I could not sit still and I took 2 more. I felt a little more relaxed and took a 8-10 minute nap. Now here I am crying, which has been non stop, begging someone for help. I have taken Lexapro for a while now, so I thought coming off this would not be bad. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!! I have 2 small children and besides my injury I am a normal 36 year old male. I am very much involved in my church. I think God because I did not die from taking so many. I did call my doc and he made me transfer all my stuff over to him from my detox visit, and has not yet called me back?? Will someone please tell me what to do here? When will I feel normal again. Should I just quit and suffer non stop for a few days?? What do I do. Please everyone Respond. I can't take this.
update my doctor told me today that i am done. i must quit cold turkey. i can not have anymore. please tell me how to quit this without the anxiety!!
I also was curious that since I was going into this taking an antidepresant. will my withdrawals be as long and as bad? ..
update my doctor told me today that i am done. i must quit cold turkey. i can not have anymore. please tell me how to quit this without the anxiety!!
I also was curious that since I was going into this taking an antidepresant. will my withdrawals be as long and as bad? ..
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We are all reading this and pulling for you!! Stay strong, I just came out of the worst of the WD's! Trust me, your body will recover from this, you sound like you have good support with your wife, doc, and pastor all involved! That is great, plus posting on here and reading the experiences of others will help you. Remember, the only way is forward, one baby step at a time! Each symptom will go away, slowly but surely you will gain the upper hand. The WD's are about the worst thing a human can suffer, but its a necessary evil on the road to recovery... I thought about you yesterday when mine were so bad i wanted to scream, and i am thinking about you now.. I only hope that you can stay the course, it's so worth it! Keep it up, keep posting and venting, and these angels will take care of you just like they did for me- god bless and stay strong!
what i mean by anxiety is not the actual worrying but the actual feeling of electricity in your arms and chest and the pit of your stomach.
Brian,
Thank you so much. Your words have encouraged me. I was on vicodin for 2 months and tramadol for 6 - 8 total. Let me list the remainding symptoms I am having and you can tell me what you think. I have anxiety in the morings with the electric arms and chest. It does start to go away all throughout the day, and completely go away unless I drink caffine not a little just about 3 or more cans of diet pepsi. I used to really drink a lot, so my body is in a sorts going through caffine wd's a little. What really scares me is that my back muscles are starting to feel soar. Not the pain I started taking the pills for, but just a little soar. For about a couple of hours a day I kinda feel like I am starting to get the flu, then it goes away. I have been everywhere, just like I did before I got hurt. Maybe I am pushing too hard, but I don't want to just sit and wait to feel better. Are you saying the anxiety will subside 2 weeks or so after my last dose or after the first week of wds? That's it. I know the worse is over, plus have you ever heard of anyone's symtoms back tracking? Of course, not including them using again, which I swear I am not or will not again?? Thanks so much,
Thank you so much. Your words have encouraged me. I was on vicodin for 2 months and tramadol for 6 - 8 total. Let me list the remainding symptoms I am having and you can tell me what you think. I have anxiety in the morings with the electric arms and chest. It does start to go away all throughout the day, and completely go away unless I drink caffine not a little just about 3 or more cans of diet pepsi. I used to really drink a lot, so my body is in a sorts going through caffine wd's a little. What really scares me is that my back muscles are starting to feel soar. Not the pain I started taking the pills for, but just a little soar. For about a couple of hours a day I kinda feel like I am starting to get the flu, then it goes away. I have been everywhere, just like I did before I got hurt. Maybe I am pushing too hard, but I don't want to just sit and wait to feel better. Are you saying the anxiety will subside 2 weeks or so after my last dose or after the first week of wds? That's it. I know the worse is over, plus have you ever heard of anyone's symtoms back tracking? Of course, not including them using again, which I swear I am not or will not again?? Thanks so much,
You are doing great! I know how horrible withdrawals can be but anyone can get through them if they dig deep. We all have it in us. It's just a matter of finding. And you found it Chad!
You are well on your way to putting all of this in the past. This is a fight for your life so treat it as such. Constantly remind yourself that failing is not an option. I used my family for motivation. I wanted to be able to spend each day with them and remember every second of it. I didn't want to live in a fog any longer. Life is so much better now and it will be for you also.
The insomnia and lethargy are usually the last two symptoms to go away. What helped me the most was exercise. I know it can be hard to muster up the energy to do so but force yourself even if it's just a short walk around the block. I know the weather here in IL is starting to get cold so just bundle up! I went from walking a few blocks to running a few miles within a few days. It was very difficult at first but about halfway through the jog I felt amazing. It really helped my energy return a bit faster and also helped with the lack of sleep. It took me about 30 days for my sleep to completely return to normal but it gradually came back up until then. The anxiety took me about two weeks but each day got easier and easier.
I kinda skimmed through all the comments so not sure if anyone recommended the amino acid protocol. You can find that in the health pages which is located in the upper right hand corner of the screen. It lists a bunch of vitamins and supplements that will help your brain and body recover faster. Just make sure you read through it carefully. There are a few that cannot be taken if you are taking an antidepressant. I believe it's the S-ame and the 5-htp but not positive. The protocol says which ones not to take.
Also be sure to eat healthy and push the good fluids. We put our bodies through he!! while using so we have to do all we can do help it recover. Although Gnarly probably already mentioned this you should get some whey protein. It's a powdered shake mixture. It's in the bodybuilding area in the vitamin section at wally world. It will also help a bit with the energy levels. I read that you were laying off the caffeine and that's a good thing.
Just keep pushing forward and never look back. If you've fought through it this far you can fight through these last remaining symptoms. Use that beautiful family for motivation but more importantly do this for you.
Hang in there. You've got this. I'm pulling for you.
Best of luck.
Brian
You are well on your way to putting all of this in the past. This is a fight for your life so treat it as such. Constantly remind yourself that failing is not an option. I used my family for motivation. I wanted to be able to spend each day with them and remember every second of it. I didn't want to live in a fog any longer. Life is so much better now and it will be for you also.
The insomnia and lethargy are usually the last two symptoms to go away. What helped me the most was exercise. I know it can be hard to muster up the energy to do so but force yourself even if it's just a short walk around the block. I know the weather here in IL is starting to get cold so just bundle up! I went from walking a few blocks to running a few miles within a few days. It was very difficult at first but about halfway through the jog I felt amazing. It really helped my energy return a bit faster and also helped with the lack of sleep. It took me about 30 days for my sleep to completely return to normal but it gradually came back up until then. The anxiety took me about two weeks but each day got easier and easier.
I kinda skimmed through all the comments so not sure if anyone recommended the amino acid protocol. You can find that in the health pages which is located in the upper right hand corner of the screen. It lists a bunch of vitamins and supplements that will help your brain and body recover faster. Just make sure you read through it carefully. There are a few that cannot be taken if you are taking an antidepressant. I believe it's the S-ame and the 5-htp but not positive. The protocol says which ones not to take.
Also be sure to eat healthy and push the good fluids. We put our bodies through he!! while using so we have to do all we can do help it recover. Although Gnarly probably already mentioned this you should get some whey protein. It's a powdered shake mixture. It's in the bodybuilding area in the vitamin section at wally world. It will also help a bit with the energy levels. I read that you were laying off the caffeine and that's a good thing.
Just keep pushing forward and never look back. If you've fought through it this far you can fight through these last remaining symptoms. Use that beautiful family for motivation but more importantly do this for you.
Hang in there. You've got this. I'm pulling for you.
Best of luck.
Brian
Well, in three hours it will be 144 since I poisened myself. At this time last week if you were to tell me how I would be feeling right now, I would have not belived anyone. I am telling you, God has brought me to where I am at. This has nothing to do with me. You can tell by my ealier post that I was a huge baby. WD's are the worse thing I have been through ever. I never ever will go through that again! It makes me not even desire the little satanic pill. I still have my anxiety demon wake me up every morning, but today I actually feel asleep again and got a total of 7-8 hours!!!!! Not all at once, but that ok. Does anyone know how long it takes on the average for the anxiety to subside???? Plus my back muscle still feel a little sore. I don't know if that is from my injury or from wds. I know it does not feel like it did when I injured myself the first time. Just a little sore, very moveable. All in all at this point, I consider myself abudenlty blessed. Just want to kick the anxiety demon to the curb..... My anti depressant is helping though. I was taking it before I started on the tramadevil....
Thank you so much Storme. You know, I never really thought about the self-confidence thing and the addiction. I knew there was some reason. I always seem like I am trying to feel in an alter state. Caffine, pills, anything to make me feel energetic and on top of my game. I really had a pretty good day. I took my daughter to the mall, to walmart, went to birthday party, cleaned the garage.... I refuse to wait to get better, but at the party I drank too much caffine, and the anxiety crept in slowly. It was very manageable and reminded me I am not quite there yet, but everyday is leaps and bounds above others. The coolest experience about all this is meeting all you people who believe the same way I do. I was worried we were a dieing breed, but God is still very active. Thanks again.
Forgot to answer about the energy drain you still feel. I promise you that you will get your energy back. The BEST thing to do right now is rest when you must but also try to move. Even a short walk will give you some energy even if you feel drained after doing so. Walk every day, or dance or exercise but do something. By the end of a week you will have a lot more energy than you do now. Two weeks and you should feel even stronger.
I know for me, a month into my recovery, I was doing aerobic dance again. I was only doing 30 minutes at a shot but I often did it twice a day. Now, 4 + months into my recovery, I am doing great! You will be too. I promise.
I know for me, a month into my recovery, I was doing aerobic dance again. I was only doing 30 minutes at a shot but I often did it twice a day. Now, 4 + months into my recovery, I am doing great! You will be too. I promise.
Hi Chad! I just read all of your posts and am so glad you are making it through the toughest days. I took Tramadol after Vicodin too and the withdrawals are nasty but You know now that you can do it! Keep strong in your faith not only in God but also in yourself. Part of our addiction stems from not loving ourselves very much at the time and we need to remember what terrific people we truly are. God knows it, now you must remember that too!
I look forward to reading more about your progress and your new lease on life!
Teresa~
I look forward to reading more about your progress and your new lease on life!
Teresa~
Thanks avisg for the advice. What about the energy? I mean will I ever get back to what it was before the tramadeath?? I also have thought about looking into to some na. I never really thought of myself as an addict, but looking back on this and other stuff I have done in my life, there is defiently something there. It's like the snake in the grass waiting for me to bite and give me its posion. Btw, you rock. You are one of the factors that God used to get me through this. Thank you for all your help and following the Lord. I hope that I can help others like you did me. I feel like I am on day 10 instead of 5. BYE BYE STUPID PILLS, HELLO LIFE.
Back from Wal-Mart, you know the one so big it has its own zip code, lol. Walked around no problems, really. I get this feeling sometimes for about 10 minutes that feels kinda of like when you first get the flu. Most of the time I feel upbeat. Anyone know how long it will take to get my energy level back???
Chad,
you are doing great you sound sooooo much better .It will get better day by day now .Now next thing to do is look into aftercare can your pastor counsel you or aa/na meetings.Keep on trucking u are doing great..
you are doing great you sound sooooo much better .It will get better day by day now .Now next thing to do is look into aftercare can your pastor counsel you or aa/na meetings.Keep on trucking u are doing great..
I am also on day 5, and I woke up wide eyed. It usually takes me at least 15 minutes or so to get up, but this morning my eyes just popped open at 7:15. I tried and tried to go back to sleep until about 7:45 when my 2 year old boy was screaming from his crib "Daddy". He knows I am home, so he wants me to come and get him. Yeah, I felt the doom and gloom and the panicy and the electricity a little in the morning too. I got scared and started thinking man here we go again going backwards. I got up and said screw it, I am going to clean the garage. Sounds real fun, huh? Anything to take my mind off it. It went away too after a couple of hours and I have drank my daily quota of diet pepsi already, so the caffine isn't even bothering me. I am not a big fan, especially when I am off work, to go out and start cleaning things, but I couldn't stand sitting on the same couch I have all week. It started to bring back memories, plus my wife said it smelled bad from sweating like a stuck pig all week. lol I remeber at the height of day 2 screaming and telling Jesus how sorry I was, and begging Him to take me away from all this. He led me through it. I can tell by your words you too belive, so all I can say is to totally trust in Him and pray. When you feel that way, just ask Him to give you just enough strength to get through the next hour. Eventually, you won't need to that anymore. Instead just thank Him for his healing grace. I will also tell you that I have been taking 10mg of Lexapro for a while, which I think helped. Anyway, God let it help. You have got to really want and mean it and tell Him you trust in Him for everything. It will change your life.
Sorry again for the typos. And btw... Reading your posts have helped me so so much!! Thank you and God bless
Hey Chad What day r u on? I'm on day 5 from hydrostatic and I'm feeling a little better today. Yes the mornings and middle of the night have been rough for me too. Woke up at 6 and thought I was going to freak out! Sweaty and jyst feeling like I was having a terrible panic attack! But as the morning has worn on im feeling like that has lifted. I got up and dusted and sat outside. Talked on the phone to distract myself. That really helped too. Good luck today! I feel sure by thanksgiving we both should be peachy
Duluthguy, you are a God send. Thank you so much for the encouragment. The only remaining symptoms is a touch of the anxiety in the morning. So, instead of sit here and worry about it, I went out and cleaned my garage. I don't even have a temptation for the pills. The only thing that kinda ***** is my stomach is hurts still and my back has a pinch in it. However, I would not trade them back for the anxiety. Anything is better than the hell last week. Man, on day two I was on the floor in my kitchen on my face begging God to take me away. I just couldn't take it anymore. I wish I could go back and tell that guy to be strong.
That is awesome, I'm so glad you are finally feeling better!! I knew you would get there!! Congrats, I felt guilty when I was feeling so good and you were so down and out, I hope it continues!! stay strong and god bless!!
Well, here I am at the start of day 5. The day when things are supposed to get better. Praise God , they already have. I had a decent night's sleep about 6 hours, without sleep aids. I woke up this morning with a touch of anxiety about 35% or enough to kinda of tell. I had the anxious feeling with a touch of the arm and chest zaps, but nothing like before. Nights are defiently the best. I hope today gets better. I don't see going backwards. Thank You Savior.
Another thing, I know that this is not the smartest, but my email is chaddavis333@hotmail. com if anyone that is suffering wants to correspond back and forth. Right now I am at about 80% but I can tell you what to expect and maybe do. Avisg, Duluthguy, throwinthetowel, gnarly, and ladylisa, THANK YOU FOR THE HELP THROUGH THIS HELL OF A JOURNEY. I will never forget your words as I struggled through this hell. Thanks to everyone else who commented, but most of all THANK YOU MY SAVIOR. You have brought back one of Your lost sheep, broke him for your purpose, and put him back together to do Your will. God really saved my life here. Glory to Him. In order for God to mold you to His Purpose, He must first brake the old mold and start a new.
WOW!!! What a difference a few hours and The Almighty God makes. I feel incredible. I went to church tonight with no problems, ate like a fat king, and played catch in the living room with my 2 year old son. The reason I am saying this is becuase I know in the morning I will have those "whispers" of anxiety. A week ago at this time right now, I was setting in the emergency room waiting to go into to detox. I wish I could go back and tell that guy that everyday for a while is gonna suck, but you will come through on the end other end wonderfully. Please here me people: PRAYER AND FAITH WORK WHEN YOU ARE ON THAT 2ND AND 3RD DAY OF WITHDRAWAL. PLEASE HANG IN THERE. At least now, I know for sure I, Chad Davis, am an addict. NOT an abuser, but someone with an addictive personality. I hope that if you are reading this right now and going through withdrawals, please don't give in. In less 5 days God has delivered me from the demons of addiction and withdrawals. Flush your pills, unless you need them for a real reason, and give everything over to Him. Do it in true faith, and I promise He will deliver you.
Thank you. Yeah today has been better than yesterday already. I just can not wait for the anxiety to end It's in my arms and wont go away. I know I am impatient, but I just want it to be done. Praise God for my progress so far.
Hey Chad!
I've never taken tram but I'm on day 4 from hydro so I'm kinda in the same boat. It's weird but I'll be sitting there fine and dandy then all of a sudden it comes over me like a wave and it's like a since of well.. Dread. But I just walk around, step outside for a few, sit in the little sun that's shining and in a few it passes. I woke up in the night like that several tomes too. I have wd before and to be honest for me it takes a couple weeks for that part to go away. Be everyday it happens less and a liitle farther apart until one day it's just gone! Just keep praying and when the panic hits move around. It helps me. Good luck friend! Your ALMOST there. It's a short time that feels like it won't end but it does. I promise. Hang in there
I've never taken tram but I'm on day 4 from hydro so I'm kinda in the same boat. It's weird but I'll be sitting there fine and dandy then all of a sudden it comes over me like a wave and it's like a since of well.. Dread. But I just walk around, step outside for a few, sit in the little sun that's shining and in a few it passes. I woke up in the night like that several tomes too. I have wd before and to be honest for me it takes a couple weeks for that part to go away. Be everyday it happens less and a liitle farther apart until one day it's just gone! Just keep praying and when the panic hits move around. It helps me. Good luck friend! Your ALMOST there. It's a short time that feels like it won't end but it does. I promise. Hang in there
it has been almost 96 hours since my last pill. I feel ok kinda. Lots different than I did 2 or three days ago. I just have to learn patients. I still feel like crying a lot. It is a catch 22, if I don't drink any caffine, I am so tired and overwhelmed feeling that I cant even move, but I cant sleep. I don't know if this is from something elese like not sleeping or something. If I do drink cafffine I have a little more energy and feel as close to normal as I have in days, but a short time later i get the electric impulse feelings and anxiety. I know you guys' that have been responded lives' don't revolve around me, but would some tell me when I am going to be ok again?? I know there is no magic formula, but I am glad that I feel the way I do by day 4. Thank God my boss is cool enough to understand. One good thing is I do have long moments of clarity with no anxiety or depression or anything, almost like mystelf. Then boom out of nowhere, here it comes..... Please God let this end. I am glad what I have gleened from these days about the Lord. I have also put a new sense of love and respect for my wife. She does not understand anything about this, but she is doing the best she can. You can tell when I have good moments by my writings and how clear my thoughtsand spelling are. If not, bad spelling and grammar and randomness. Praise God for His mercy....
Update: I finally got a little sleep, but the demons woke me up. This has happened to me before with a vicodin incident a few years back. I get that overwhelming feeling in my chest and arms like electricity running through them. Mornings are worse. Anyone know how long this last?
Thanks to all who commented. The positvie encouragment really helped. As far as the sleep. Lets just say I took some Nyquill at 10 and woke up at 2 and have been wide awake since. Oh well, I am going to study my Sunday School lesson that I am teaching. I still get a touc h of anxiety. Nothing like before. Its more like I feel it in my forearms down to my fingers. Also, where in the heck did the sneezing come from? This expericence has really made me think. I never considered my self an addict However, I can remeber to back whenn I got hurt and thinking... alright I get some Vicodin. I can remeber the stuff I did to party with when I was younger. Wow, maybe I am a touch of an addict. At least now I know, but don't addicts deserve sleep too? To the person above this comment, prayer is the best support? It is the best, you are right. I and many others on here could tell you that you are going to feel this or that, but God has the power to shut it off or on. I remeber laying flat on my face on day 2 begging Him and screaming help me Jesus, please. One thing to remeber... He is holding you the whole time. The other thing that helped me was also getting out. I paced back and forthh in our small house going crazy. Force yourself to do something, if not you will watch every minute on the clock. Also, the thing that really kept me grounded was this: the only bad, stupid, lazy, inconsiderate abuser, is the one who really doesn't want to quit. Bring on day 4, I have the Lord on my side.....
Hi everyone... I accidently came across this forum and I'm so glad I did. I've been reading through a lot of the posts for an hour or so and this seems like a great place for me to be. I am an opiate user.... about 120 to 200mg of opana per day. I am so ready to quit. I don't have the option of tapering off so tomorrow will be day 1 of cold turkey for me. I have been through withdrawals before and know very well the hell it is. I am here for encouragment and any advice you guys may be able to give me. I am so dreading tomorrow and the days ahead. But I am more so tired of living my life around a pill. Prayer is the best support I have.
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