The fourth day...

[MH]

First,  this is my fifth time trying to withdrawal from opiates, and, as usual, the fourth day always seems to be the hardest.  I used a little bit yesterday (on the fourth day) and am wondering if this will set me back.  I rationalized using it (us drug abusers are good at rationalizing) by telling myself that if I used a little bit then I would eat, drink, and sleep (all three of which I did.)  

Also, I'm using a drug called catapres, which a friend gave me and told me it was a generic form of clonodine.  Is this true?  I couldn't find anything on the RX search engines.

And third, I've been taking valium (sometimes up to 50mg a day) for the last 4 or 5 days.  I only have about 7 10mg pills left and am wondering if there's any chance that I've developed a tolerance in the past 5 days of valium use.  I'm thinking not, but the last thing I want to do is go through benzo withdrawal after going through narcotic withdrawal.

Thanks for both this board and any help you can give me,

MH

[Joe]

A TOM-TOM, YOU SOUND LIKE A DING-A-LING!

[A TOM TOM]

A STING AND BANG A LING A LANG A DANG!! HA HA HA CHEER UP! IT GETS BETTER FROM NOW ON!!

[Robert]

Normally third day is the worse.

Trust me fifty Mil of valium a day while withdrawing won't hurt you as long as you don't take it for more than a week to ten days. It takes the edge off.

Has the catapres Helped? I heard that it helps but I have not been able to find out much about it.

it's going to take seven to ten days so just hold in there. The one little relapse wasn't too bad. A little sleep won't hurt but don't do it again or it will never end.

A one time fix in the middle of withdrawal actually helps, if you only do it once.

It helps the body get a little rest, and food and helps you be in a little bit better shape.

But it should all be downhill from now. Just don't use again if you really want to stop.

Good Luck.

[steve]

Dear MH.

The fourth day may suck, but you're not far away from the other side. So using is the wrongest decision you could possibly take.
I remember having done the same thing a few times with an inevitable result: relapse.
So, if you still hide some smack somewhere, I strongly recommend
you get rid of it.
As to valium, I think it's a valuable help to get you some hours of sleep, which for me is the critical issue in medium to late withdrawal. If you've been taking it for 5 days, no chance you're hooked on it. You're probably taking too much. Slow down and in a few days forget about it. Hold in there & good luck.

[Barbara]

Yah, day-4 is one of the worst for me for alcohol withdrawal too. I am about to enter it for the unmpteenth time. It sucks!