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This *****

I'm sorry but it does. And I have to work through this - I wish I could stay home but I can't. The headache is awful. I tried taking 1/2 a clonidine yesterday morning but it made me way to tired at work. The good news is my doctor prescribed a very low dose of Ativan for the anxiety.

What I want to know is the science of all this crap. Why is it so hard for us to come off?

I think I can......I think I can .....,I think I can.....,,,

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Definitely read Vicki's journals, might want to check out clean_in_kansas' journals as well, great info. A quit synopsis is what I'll share. If you walk out into the street, not paying attention, because you are thinking about what classes you are taking next semester, and a bus is chargin full speed at you, you will stop thinking about anything but your safety. Our brains shut down non-necessary functions in an emergency. The frontal lobe of the brain has to do with the future, consequences, etc... When the bus is about to crush you, you forget about school or anything else, you just think, "MOVE!" Drugs do the same thing to us. Our brain starts to treat withdrawal as a life threatening situation. Survival is the only mode left functioning and drugs are the only way to save your life. That is why we lose control, it has been proven that an addict actually loses control, will power or morals have nothing to do with our craving. We become more like rats than humans, our brain losses the part that makes us human. That is why it is so important for addicts to get help and have local support. It's not that we are weak or bad people, we just have to get off drugs and stay off them. Addiction doesn't go away, ever, but it does go in remission, as long as we don't use. Hope this helps.
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Kudos to you for working through w/d!  I was unemployed and super sick before and during detox so I simply only had to deal with one moment at a time and myself.  My family was around me and they supported me a great deal.  I remember on day 8 I went out into the world to get passport photos done.  OMG my pupils were HUGE and I felt soooo sketchy!  But I did it.  I'm amazed by my fellow forum members who work through detox, care for their children etc.
You are doing this!  You are!
So proud of you...
Lu
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Thank you all so much!!!
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4522800 tn?1470325834
Well Ben came out of the woods and replied to you in a very good way.

I too have put some of this info in my Journals..One is the "Nature of Addiction" and the other one is 'Addiction and the Pleasure Pathway beyond willpower"
The Mid-brain-Survival part of the brain is the Pleasure part and it has so  much to do with the whys and how we can become addicted and keep on going further & further with it...The Nature of it is about many reason why we might use something because of our personality disorders and how we build up a tolerance so fast..We also go through a Grieving period when we stop our DOC. I wish you all the best and try not to over analyze to much because it will drive you crazy..Just take it day by day, but it does help to know this more in a scientific way..It will not cure you but it will help you to understand that it is not always are fault. Keep on Stepping Forward!
Bless
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1796826 tn?1578874779
That's a good question Tornado. Having a better understanding of the science of addiction has certainly helped a number of people who have posted here in the past.

Addiction is extremely complex because it is the result of dramatic brain structure changes. Once these brain structure changes take hold, an individual is no longer left with an easy choice to "simply not use", but is faced with an overpowering & persistent compulsion that can be similar to the need for food.

There are three identified types of opiate receptors found in the body. They are the mu, delta, and kappa receptors primarily located in the brain, spinal cord, and digestive tract. Each of the receptor varieties serve specific functions with the mu receptors predominantly responsible for pleasure effects and pain relief when activated. Most of the commonly used opioids like oxycodone, hydrocodone, and heroin are "mu agonists". There are also "mu antagonists" like naltrexone and naloxone which can be used to prevent an opiate high and finally "partial mu antagonists" like suboxone and methadone which both provide an opiate high and repel other opioid molecules.

The brain structure changes I mentioned above are chemically complex, but one accurate way to think about it is that continued use of an opioid results in tolerance because of decreases in opioid receptor sensitivity. The mu receptor is there because the brain naturally produces these molecules, but when we put an artificial version of it into our body, that receptor quickly wears out.

The physical pain of withdrawal and subsequent phases of recovery (sometime referred to as the "mental phase") have to do with the brain "healing" itself. Receptor sites gradually return to their normal levels of sensitivity. The entire reward feedback system of the brain gradually returns to a pre-addiction state. This process takes time, and is why it's critical to have a program of aftercare in place. Hope this helps!
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7689249 tn?1408018598
the science has to do with the receptors in your brain and who lotta other stuff I'm not sure of lol but I'm sure someone will be on to help I'm on day   2  of wd but i have some subs to help but i dont want to use i took some in the middle of the night cuz i couldn't stand the rls i also have clonodine best of luck to you
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Noooo!!!
I know i can....i know i can....i know i can!
I missed what you are detoxing from and what day your on but dont give up! Working during this process ***** *** for sure but can be done. Make sure your drinking lots of water, gatorade, etc..a d taking multivitamins. Do u deal with the public or are u basically alone on your work? You have to put it in yourind that u r a beast!!! And you want this bad enough that the few days your going to b sick are going to be totally worth it! Get a cold, wet rag, wipe your face and move it forward!!!! This can be yours!
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