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[itsadogslife]

I haven't posted in awhile & I posted the response to  "Dr. near my hometown going to jail," but it's way down the list so I'm going to repost it.

I think it's horrible the way they persecuted this very good doctor who's father was also a well respected physician and whose brother still practices medicine.

Otherwise, just treat this as an open topic.  I know we only get one a day.

"I was in the courthouse in Grundy a couple of weeks ago and people were talking about Dr. Sutherland and I didn't hear one negative comment.All I heard was what a caring, compassionate doctor he was...how he would take patients who had no money, make house calls, etc. I believe him when he says he let his heart rule and made some bad calls. He was just trying to help.

Many doctors in this area won't prescribe any narcotics anymore and refer their patients to pain clinics. Mine won't. I watched a woman go into meltdown in his office when she found out he wasn't prescribing anymore. I thought she was going to tear the place apart.

My doc said he was trying to help people too but they were calling him at 3 in the morning, lying to him all the time, not paying, etc.,and he just decided to make a rule - no narcotics. And he sticks by it. He couldn't handle it. Luckily he wasn't arrested when he did prescribe them.

It's a bad problem here. Incidentally, I'm on the WV side of the state line and it's just as bad here. People are forced to buy oxys on the street where the going price is $10 a mg. The consequences of this are an increase in crime where once there was none."

[pon]

I know now who to call if I am lost in the woods spunkmeister :)

pon

[Chuck99]

I meant any input..not 'and'

[Chuck99]

Hey everyone . Some of you may remember about a month and a half ago I went through alcohol withdrawl.The first week obviously sucked , the second week sucked mentally . On the 3rd week I was feeling pretty good , and then on the 4th I started feeling really shitty again ( anxiety , depression ) .This went on for about a week , so I started using kava kava. After a few days , it wasnt doing much for me . I found some stuff called Tension&Mood ( it has ST. Johns Wort , Kava Kava , Vitamin C , Thiamin (B1) , Niacin , Folic Acid , Pantothenic Acid , and Lecithin ) and after a few days I was feeling pretty good and still am. I know there isnt much research on the long term side affects of this stuff , but I was wondering what some of your opions are on me taking this stuff ( how long I should continue taking it for , ect.)I'm just curious , and input would be nice :)

[pon]

Hey spunkmeister...sleep well..you deserve peace...evceryone does...I'm sort of country too...I have a farm....I went to University in Charlottesville...anywhere near you?

pon

[Chezz]

Pon,

I have been waiting all day for her to post back.

Glad to see you are still hangin in there. Day 26?

Chezz

[Chezz]

As you can see, it looks like I will be here awhile.

Glad to hear that you are busy. As long as it helps.

I think it is day 6 or so. I haven't had any problem, except for the pain.

Actually, in the event that I do have to take meds. I don't think it would be an issue. I have learned so much to ever go back. I really didn't "abuse" them. I just got tired of poppin 9 aday and still having pain. Then running out too soon. That was when my doc was going to switch me to the patches. Thats when I decided it was time to see where I was at. I would just have to be RESPONSIBLE. Hard concept sometimes.

Anyway, it wouldn't be in the near future.

Glad to see you will be still posting.

I think Allisa really could use you, as well as us, right now.
Chezz

[pon]

day 23 and all is well...posted you on another thread, especially about the steroid epidural...I have heard very good things.

I have been traveling for work (unexpected) since Tuesday...won't be home till fri night.  good from a work perspective, but miss the family and posting...18 hour days...they do keep my mind off the vikes...although I will say the cravings are pretty much over.

By the way, I don't intend to drop out after day 28...I would like to stay and post if i am welcome...I have found great strength for myself here and would like to give a little back if I can...

will e-mail you

pon

[pon]

posted Allisa down below...

pon

[pon]

I think you have lots of friends here...what do you need

pon

[itsadogslife]

Sorry, I have to plead brain damage from drug abuse :) I meant $1.00 a mg. 80's would be $80. Lots of people stealing lots of stuff to support their habits now that all the doctors are afraid to prescribe it. Prostitutes on the street.  We're talking $200-$300 a day. No decimal point missing there. After what just happened to Dr. Sutherland. I bet even the pain clinics won't touch it now.

Breakins and murder were unheard of before this oxy craze. WV ranked 47th on the list for murder and I just read in a local paper there were 8 murders in the past two months...all drug related.

I don't take oxy myself so it's not a problem for me but I feel for all those folks who walked into their doctors office to get a new script one day and were told "Sorry."  I'd freak myself if something like that happened to me.

itsadogslife

[mrmichael67]

Neurontin is an anti-seizure med that has a side effect of knocking out nerve pain.  It is used a lot with people who have back problems with pain radiating down their legs.  It takes anywhere from two to four weeks to start working.

[Chezz]

Allisa,

Check the posts up a thread or too. Jess and I were having a little joking fun last night.

Life without drugs gets so much better everyday.

You will be there too. Just gonna take a little time......

I'm here. I couldn't write anymore on your post below. I couldn't even read my screen anymore. I will try and write more later.
Chezz
P.s Im here...

[bmac]

It is a med that doesn't get you high at all.It is anti seizure
med,but it does kill pain.I replied to your post down below.Read it and get back with me.
                          bmac

[mdsskit]

Question regarding Neurontin, After being on Norco for sometime now my doc thought it would be cute to try me on Neurontin. What a buzz kill. Does anyone know if you can actually get high on this ****. Says its for antisiezures?

[Chezz]

I am so sorry to hear about your cat. I have 2. They are my "boys". I remember the 1st cat I had, and his passing, vividly. It HURT so much. I KNOW your pain.

Thank you for the comment on writing.

This is my life. This is me stripped bare. The pain, the anguish, the sorrow.

I could never have written these things, without going through them.

I don't know where it comes from. I write, I cry, I feel. I HAVE to write. I NEED to get it out.

I have let my life be taken over by addictions. Now I am taking that back.

Sometimes I hurt so bad that I can't write. like now......
Chezz

[Chezz]

I am glad to see that you are still hangin in there too.

Puffin has got to be the best medicine I have ever found. It calms, relax's, and never makes you feel like sh$@ afterwards.

I wish I could. The last time I went CT it helped immensely. You can't puff too much to get to sleep! It also helped to keep my mind off of the w/d.

One more day.......
Chezz

[Goldenbear]

All of you are something else. I'm so happy I found this site.
I'm here for the long haul with all of you.
Chezz, Glad you are doing better.
Goldenbear

[Chezz]

thanks GB. It still hurts alot. But I wouldn't take another pill for anything. I have come too far.

I will hopefully get the epidural soon. I have also been taking charge of my life and body. I have been walking as much as I can. I also have been doing my own physical therapy at home. It hurts to do, but I know it will help.

How are you doing? Are you still having bad w/ds
Chezzz

[athena]

I was out looking for the tyrosine but couldn't find it.We dont have a gnc in this one legged horse town.lolI did drop off a script I had for indocin and flexeril.I guess im being weak but I really almost screwed up today,thinking just one half wont hurt.I know it will though and i am NOT giving in.Not today anyway.I really think that only 1 hr sleep is the prob.Today is the 5th day of the rest of my life!Today is the 4th day of the rest of your life!Hope we can beat this hydro hell!Keep up the cheerful attitude.It really helps.This wimp is going to pick up the flexeril lol

[Goldenbear]

You two make me smile a lot. I am on day 5 right now, smoked some pot last night at about 3am, almost took a swig of some cough medicine with Codeine.I wanted to drink the whole bottle. I didn't. I felt pretty guilty about the thought. I was Just plain bored at 3am?. Without the hydro I feel kind of empty.
Thank god for my Wife and 5 year old son. Not to mention our 2 Golden Retrievers and Bernese Mountain Dog.They give me added incentive to stay straight.
Keep posting, I like your attitudes.
Good Idea getting the L-Tyrosine take 4000 mg a day it helps with the depression and gives you strength. Also,Milk thistle helps in detoxing your liver to help get the real shi- out of your body.
Goldenbear

[bmac]

Did the pot help you?just curious about that.I've gotten a little gun shy around here and don't want to say things that offend.I just thought I would ask.I am a toker also.
                               bmac

[CinCee]

I have a golden retriever also.  Mine loves the chewable vitamin c.  Vet suggested it for UTI.  So when I'm opening all my bottles and stuff, she stands and waits for hers, too.

[Goldenbear]

With everything that is brought up in this forum I've spoken softly about puffin, but it did settle me down quite a bit. I puff very seldom, but I really needed something to mellow me out and sleep without using a sleeping pill. Yes, it helped after I shared two haagan daaz dolche de creme popsicles with my older Golden Retriever. Maybe his attention helped too.
Goldenbear

[athena]

Day 5 sux dont it.I have to admire anyone with codeine in the house and not drink it.I'll just say that I poked a pinhole in a tussionex bottle last night trying to get a drop lol It's not really funny but humor is the best way for me to cope.i hope we can keep you laughing through this hell...... This too shall pass.In the meantime,i'll go throw out those pins before another bright idea hits me.

pixi