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Tramadol Tapper - W/D Questions

I'm doing a tapper of Tramadol from 8/9 pills a day dow to 0, hopefully.  If anyone has done this, can you tell me if hives and itchy skin are a result of this?  I don't have very bad symptoms so far, some nausea and general feeling of being sick and being very tired, but that's about it.  I've been at about 6.5 pills for 6 days and am doing 5 today.  

If I ween down to 1 or 1/2 a pill, will I have severe W/D when I go to 0 or will the taper make it much lighter?  And since my symptoms are somewhat minimal so far, should I jump down further and try to go to 3 or 4 now instead of 5?

The doc has offered me the sub approach to getting off, spending a 1/2 day in his office, but several here have advised against that so I'm trying to do the tapper first.

If anyone got hives or itchy skin, is that something serious and/or how long did it last?  The hives are on my neck.  Thanks.
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Until I got on here I didn't even know about the anti-depressant qualities of it, but I did feel very energized on it.  

soitgoes - you are like a mirror to me!  I thought I was just anxious cuz of all the scare on the scripts.  I am still anxious  My husband went so far as to say I've been paranoid about the pharmacy stuff.  I wonder how long the anxiety lasts.  I will do the slow taper like you did when I get that low and I won't do sub.  Hearing someone else has gone through the same thing tells me I can do it too.  And I'm glad to hear the hives went away.

I can't cut a break at the pharmacy.  I went today to pick up the non-narc scripts I dropped off yesterday.  The pharmacist who pounced on me yesterday wasn't working so I felt calmer, until she walked up in her street clothes.  She did something behind the counter and when she was walking out and saw me she turned right around and went back to the computer.  I swear if she got on the phone I was going to bolt.  It seems like she's just waiting to 'get' me trying to get a narc script.  I was very unnerved again and practially in tears by the time I paid and power walked to my car.  I should probably change pharmacies, but it seems like that just reflects being guilty of something.  I would like to continually disppoint her and show up with non-narc scripts.  What are the odds she would show up at the exact time I and stick around until I was done?  

This is a new world I'm learning to navigate.
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its aweful your doc would suggest sub., makes me sad
because his/her next patient/victim may not be aware of the dangers of sub like you are
so yeah....ultram wd, not fun but you can do it
last summer i started chemo (i was 3 yrs clean and in recovery) my doctor suggested ultram, it was impossible to go through my medical procedures without pain meds
so i got on ultram for 3 weeks, i took 3 a day, and i lost my mind, the drug's anti-depressant like qualities made me bonkers!!
when all that was over with, i stopped taking the ultram, my syptoms were the same as if i had quit prozac, no sleep, lots of anxiety, but other than those 2 symptoms i was fine,
i had oral surgery recently and when i turned down the codiene my dentist asked if i wanted ultram, i wanted to tell him that it takes longer to detox off the stupid ultram than codine
no thanks was all i said
hope my experience helps
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Hey there phantom,

Well, the good news that I found tapering down: I went really really slow from 1 to 3/4 to 1/2 down to zero this weekend and felt minimal w/d (definately no worse than the taper felt, didn't have to miss work or anything).  I am having major crazy anxiety though.  Ugh!  It's driving me nuts.  I've got an appointment with the dr next week to see if they can help me out.  My body feels ok, but my brain is ready to jump out of my skull.

Don't know if sub will help you out too much- seems like you'll just be picking up another drugthat you have to taper off of.  I'm not at all knowledgable about that  though, so I'll let others chime in.

I also had hives!  I thought I was nuts!  I had hives while I was still doing the bigger taper jumps (I went from 6 to 5 to 4 and 3 really fast, then took the rest slow).  Around the time I got to 1 or 1 1/2 pills the hives went away.  

Hope all is going with with you!  Keep with it, you can totally do this!
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