that's too funny....Anytime I see a moderators name even in my email I get all worried....So it's NOT just you maybe its the addict in us that makes us feel guilty?? like we're little girls again and just broke our moms favorite niknak?
I still had problems but It seems to be all worked out ...I'm glad to I feel lost if I don't reply to someone new that just posted and is hurting or just in need of encouraging words......
Take care :-)
Kim
Whew, when I saw my name and moderator..thought I was in trouble! LOLOL
paranoid a little. Thanks for the info, Lira!!!!
Hi - just wanted to pop in and echo what littlebit667 said about the update. We are aware of these issues and are hoping they will be taken care of with this evening's upgrade. If you continue having problems tomorrow or if you notice other issues, please don't hesitate to let us know! Thanks!
Thanks for the reply ....OMG this was makin me save all my posts just so I didn't have to redo them ??
I thought it may have been becuz they were down yesterday for a "check up" that it may have caused a couple of glitches...
Thanks again...:-)
The log in thing has been an issue since hey did another update this morning. They are working on it. It finally stopped for me so far!
OMG...I typed you a 25 minute post to your reply and when I clicked post to comment i am KICKED off, REDIRECTED to the page where you Login or Sign up??? if I click on your name and go over to Email you same thing happens---I'm kicked off and redirected back to login page then it takes me 4 or 5 tries to just login AGAIN!!
if this goes thru then I will try to email you....
anything new????? how have u been feeling? ive been cutting back with my perks but now only have a few left i feel like im ganna stop obbsessing hopefully when i run out it will be over i know this is ganna suck but i gatta do it with your case take it from me dont go cold turkey i been down that road and believe it or not methadone does allow you to function when ur off youre deppression and life will go into question please find a support group i cant tell u i dont even feel like drinking ever again but its always around and without one i just know would have screwed up again. im proud of how strong u r but dont test the limits of these drugs when u chose the methadone it was a world the dr dont tell u about its hell if i could ever describe it i know in my situtation im ganna go thru hell but nothing compared to methadone please dont be mad at me for sugjesting na but omg it will help in ways you have no idea they will be your family outside your own give u strength and the support you need in this fu...ked situation
please contact me via email i need a friend too u seem like my cup of tea ur a tough b..tch dont take that personally lol
Thank you this is so crazy....I hear so many confliting stories of Methadone's potential to be worse while coming off....I have a doctor that has been cooresponding with me and sent me a 9 page email on it and how it effects the body/mind/spirit...
I will "TRY" and send it to your email just don't know if it will accept it being so long....if not I will give you the name of the website I found the article on......
He also has a list of vitamins for me to take as well and the ones you described are on the list.....
I wll be intouch VIA email because there are things I will want to tell you private things and Now that I know about the terms on here I don't want to break any more rules ...
:-)
Thanks for caring and replying back to me....
WMLB2010
now detox takes some perseverence methadone is a lot stonger then most people think 10mg wil keep someone thats been taking12 percs happy
as you go down in dose dont be in a hurry take your time remember the withdrawals are 3 days after the drop in dose if done rihght you can keep it down to aches and pains a little moodyness and the sweats you my ecxperence al of this or none of this but usually most people fall somewhere inbetween its not something comfortable to do especially in the lower doses thay make it sound like it will be no problem but trust me I work with a lot of people with this drug and it is a chanlage to get off I recamend you go to walmart and pick up a 3 in one vitamin calcium/magnesium/zinc it 6 bucks for 250 take 4 in the morning and 4 at dinner this will greatlly cut down on your withdrawals I wish you all the luck in the world doing this just know its possible to get off the stuff I was at 150mg and did it in 8 1/2 mo got 2yr 1 day clean today if you need advise or help im kinda the go to guy for methadone I can help you out of most of the jams ahead with a little luck you wont feel it till you hit the lower doses but even higher up you can have symptoms always wait it out NEVER GO BACK UP that will tell your body id it complains you will give it what it wants + its hard to work your way down dont give up the ground messege me if you want to talk otherwise here is fine YOU CAN DO THIS good luck and God bless.....Gnarly
yes they did and I was also given copies of all my documents that show I am in the Detox Phase...the doctor was there because I showed up at 7 a.m. before he leaves at 7:30 and I sat in with him and discused the clinics methods in regards to the days and mg's I will be at. He agreed that as long as I am maintianing a good nutritional diet filled with greens proteins and also my list of vitamins that my other doctor gave me continue with my work out schedule even bump it up a knotch the I should go thru this with out any severe issues or complications.....
I was also given the names of some of the successful patients from there who agreed to share with me any answers to questions I may have....
Thanks for asking,
WMLB2010
so how did you make out at the clinic today did they approve your detox???
I had the same problem it was all sh*ts and giggles till I wanted to come off. I swear they want to keep you on methadone to make money. Everytime you go see the doctor or nurse or leave any samples your a profit. I was on stage six for two years (all my carries) I only had to see the doctor every other month. Last I was there everyone has to start going every three weeks. So I work a six day a week job I don't have time to book a day off every three weeks for five hours to sit on my *** in the morning while they are makin money and im not? I wouldn't recommend methadone to anyone. Unless they weren't going past 20mgs. I think how my clinic let people go all the way up to 130mgs? What drug addict needs that much!
thanks for the Reply ...And yes you are correct about them being over staffed and under payed but the councelor that I was given upon intake is completely out of touch with the Pain Med addiction epidemic...she has had to ASK me questions about the addiction and I have had to give her the statistics on how many people die a DAY in Florida ALONE..again, she was clueless????
that is why I go to a specialist in the addiction field to help me with all my life long secrets life struggles that I kept to myself. I've done the AA/NA road and I had a sponcer that used me...She borrowed money from me she didn't have a car so she needed a ride to meetings I mean Come ON a sponser is supposed to have their stuff together before they take on addicts to sponser....but I was nieve very early in sobriety and this was my first attempt in 2001 to go to these meetings. that was NA, then I realized what a user she was and left those rooms and started attending AA meetings and never met such back stabbers in my life??? I was amazed at the bad experience I had therefore not for me...for others I hear GREAT stories and I am happy for them....to me it's what ever works for the individual.
They tell me at the clinic don't be ashamed for reaching out and coming to this clinic to get your life back on track...but now that I want to detox off Methadone they are telling me they need proof of residency and employment every 3 months and they need me to bring in my scripts every month for Xanax when I already had my Family Doctor provide them a letter stating that I am prescribed 1 mg xanax and have been for 10 years now for my severe panic and anxiety disorder along with my irrital Bowel syndrom take as needed...a LETTER and today my councelor informs me she will need the script each month....I just got my script at my visit on the11th along with 2 refills on the bottle she said for me to bring it in so she can make a copy of the bottle??? I mean its like all of the sudden they need all the same paper work again???? It makes no sence but as I stated in my post to GNarly I document write or type up what she wants and when i give it to her I make a copy for myself with HER signature so if the day comes she somehow looses my paper work I have it!!!! I have learned to trust no one in this world of addiction and not only is it about TRUST its about my original topic, "My councelor dropped the ball" and she is NOT organized for gods sake Ive been her patient for 6 months and she still asks me questions that she has already asked???
As for keeping in touch with me you can absolutely I will add you as a friend and if you ever need anyone Im always checkin in on here between the hours 10 a.m. to 10pm so please contact me anytime and if you want to talk privatly go to the medhelp section where you can email me and we can chat ...
Take care you're NOT ALONE I promise just reach out I will answer.....
Take care God Bless and keep fighting it's worth it to be clean
Kim
god when i was on 15 mil methadone in 09 i went cold turkey it took a month of the sh..ts and skin muschle torcher i commend u on ur quest i was clean and then broke my ankle now im on percs again i felt like i could do anything but because of my past i know im in trouble and im hiding this secrect from my family im going to try to come off little by little on my own but im terrifyed ive had cronic pain all my life but i moved to another climate and wow the difference so pain isnt my problem now its my secret pain pill addiction i go to AA and feel like such a lier but i dont drink wow big deal im so mad at myself and scared i would love to keep in contact with you i love your story and i feel alone
as of ur problem with the clinic they see you as an addict they are over staffed and under payed and some have smoked or done the same s..t as everyone else to work there so maybe their brain cells dont work as good as yours lol good luck keep me posted any advise for me i refuse to go to methadone ive been on 2 perc tens -4 somedays for 2 months i took 3 as soon as i woke today just to feel better im scared ive been thru this crap i need help i wont even tell my counsler whome i c every wk nor my dr for bipolar im afraid i'll be taken off my zanx in which i totally dont abuse i dont make sence these days
Gnarly why did you pain mgt kick you out if I can ask?
Kim take a breath. All Gnarly is saying is you can't post the actual taper plan because dr need to doing that since everyone is different. You can talk about treatment all you want. Just don't post the actual taper plan. You didn't know that so its all good.
HI first of all I agree with you about the clinics being f/up I was at one for 5yr after being kicked to the curb buy my pain management doctor....please dont post taper plans in the forum it beaks the rules and if it was only that simple fist off its way to fast your going to feel like you got hit by a truck if you go that fast methadone withdrawals are nothing to mess with normally about 1/2 that speed is correct a drop of 10% is a lot in the lower doses so your going to have to slow it down or suffer its your choice the clinics will play all kinds of games with you as for going to N/A or A/A I agree with the clinic if all you did was switch drugs and do nothing to treat the illness you need to go as addicts we need to change the very way we think and reason in order to recover otherwise once your off the methadone your going to be right back on the pills aftercare is a must if you want to stay clean getting clean is the ez part
I learned that honey will attract more bees then vinage so play your hand out as plesently as possible at the clinic any form of out burst will work ageist you and the decisions your after the key to beating the system is compliance ....personally I had 2 week take homes got a formula from a nurse friend and weened myself off 150mg in 8 1/2 mo or 1/2 the time the clinic was going to bring me down so I totally understand your frustration I wish you luck with all this if you need help im kinda the go to guy on methadone on the forum I will be happy to help you any way I can remember this is a race one by the tortus not the hare slow and steady it all about blood serum levels and keeping them even or your going to torcher yourself with withdrawals if I need to I can explain more but thats kinda a crash course in why you have to go slow good luck and God bless......Gnarly
Thank you for your Reply :-) so here's my update:
I went in today & sat in my counselors office signing papers that state "I FEEL I am READY to begin my DETOX stage". These are the VERY same papers I have been asking for some 3 weeks now ....and what's worse my counselor didn't EVEN know how the stepping down phase WORKS?? How F'N Sad, Right? Where do they get these "People" from?? Anyhow, APPARENTLY I have to WAIT for the DOCTOR to Sign off on my paperwork THEN they will start stepping me down 5 mil every 5 days (ummmm..I'll BELIEVE it when I see it) AND to make matters worse she told me I don't know if the paper work will be back before next week so you can begin your phase 3 -MEANING-i'll still get my weekend take homes but Not sure that I'll get that 1 take home during the week....WHY-In order to KEEP ME at the Mg's I'm at right now-The slower the process the longer I'm giving them money...they were so sweet until I said I wanted to come down and GET OFF the methadone? Before It was "good morning, how are you, giggle giggle ...Now MY Councelor had NERVE this morning to ask me "what's going on with your eyes, they look GLASSY"? For the LAST TIME, I have and had PINK EYE last week along with Bronchitis infection,A sinus Infection, and an EAR infeciton so now she's insenuating What, I'm using?? BRING ON THE Urine Test...I'll pass it!! she acts like she doesn't hear a word i say...I think she's using???? lol ...they are just ticked cuz it's one less income... I will stay so far up their A___ in order to make sure I get dosed down in the time I agreed on and she wrote down or all H3LLs gonna break loose!! I've done all my work I've passed all my U/A tests I will TAKE THEM DOWN cuz I know who to contact and they will not like it if I cause them to get there records audited I have know problem doing so cuz I know PLENTY of patients (only by listening in the lines) that smoke weed and do other drugs and still get "take homes"...they messed with the wrong person if they think they're going to keep me on this medication....I will cold turkey it in a minute and SUFFER before handing them another Dime!!!
The way they dose down (in case your state is different) are in increments of 20, 15, 12, 7, 5, & last 2 ...I will be dosing down every 5 days . Right now I'm STILL At 30mg supposedly I'll be at 25 beginning on the 27th of October (as long as the "doctor" signs off on it) then 5 days after that on November 1st, I BETTER be down to 20mg!! Then every 5 days another 5 mg until November 26 or 28th I should be at 2mg then on my 5th day of 2mg I can SAY "GOOD F'N BYE"!! I only have one problem I don't think they should allow ANYONE to surpass 60mgs!! Just another drug that will be hard to kick in my book...Like I said and stick by it Methadone did help me, because of all my failed attempts at "tryin" the cold turkey route off pain killers!! These past 6 months have allowed me to learn how to deal with LIFE, and realize I don't or want to sedate myself ever again...I have a BEAUTIFUL SON and husband (he's NEVER been addicted to anything so he's been a Bit tough on me but all n all -my ROCK) my son alone who is 15 never touched a drug or drink gets awesome grades in school hangs out with positive friends none of which do drugs AGAIN I WOULD KNOW !! he has a heart of gold and always puts Mom first....I have been blessed so I have to be able to give back and now being clean my mind isn't all FOGGY from pills I see what I truly have...a wonderful, healthy, loving family!! I can't believe I chose drugs over them, I can't believe I ever wanted to kill myself??? I have SOOOOO MUCH to live for but I was so blind high on Oxy's-Roxy's-Percs-U name it I was on it...I missed so much of his life (11 to 14) he is now 15...that I will never get back...all I can do is cherish every moment we spend together from this moment ON. Stop looking back because I CANT CHANGE my past only learn from it and with all I have, all I am, Be able to give back, help others struggling with addiction...that is my goal!! I want to do what ever it takes to become a licensed DRUG counselor I found my calling all due to my addiction.....
Thank you for sharing your experience with me and replying to my post!!! I will continue to fight this battle and I do plan on beating it Also I will realize I am an addict I have NOTHING to be ashamed of when I say those words I know who and what I am but I will not let it define me - But It will guide me!!!
God bless & I WISH YOU ALL the best!!! you as well-- STAY STRONG- you can do it we all can....we just need to lean on others so If ya ever need to chat I check in EVERYDAY!!
hope to hear from you, and please keep me updated on your prognosis????
Kim
Oh Hun don't get me started on a methadone clinic. Been on 80mg-90mgs for four years I'm on my 12 day sober. Every single methadone clinic out there treats everyone like an addict. I had two nurses in the clinic that treated me like a person and not an addict. When I was at 90mgs I decided to come down I went from 90 to 80, 70, 60, 50, 40, 30, 20, 19, 18, ect. Once a month they would "forget" to put me down on my dose I was getting to fed up because I had a set date when I was supposedly to be off. The kicker was they told me to set a date! Then they change it! So finally when I was at 3mgs I was suppose to go down to 2mgs but they forgot to put me down so I had to stay at 3mgs I said screw it and no more. I jumped at 3mgs. It's not the nurses it's the doctors. But on the other hand the nurses and ladies at the door can't do anything. All they can do is notify the doctor. Which ***** at the time but that's all they can do. Stay strong!