with out subs

[olduser]

well today i did stay in my regime and stayed at my taper no up no down .have thought about asking for subs but the reason im on dillies is my kidneys.supposely the only pain killer that flushes the easiest .was way down when on m-eslon but he time release crap .doesnt  flush easly.does any one know if the other subs .would hurt the kidneys .cant even use thomas recipe.not to have potassium foods.hope the tweeks slow down soon so can lower dose again .the hardest part of this is the go slow. never  had too much patience. Docs make me made  .the new way dont let the person Hurt." it s ok to take pain killers your diseases will kill you first" But  the docs told me i would not walk when i was 12.had to learn all over again but i walk some times run so ***u doc.I know i have to listen to the docs cause they keep me alive but they dont seem to understand addiction.

[10356]

Thank you Weaver.

[weaver71]

Dillies are slang for Diaudid

[weaver71]

Pure Buprenorphine, or Subutex, is not very toxic, according to the pharmacologist who manufactures it. The Naloxone in Suboxone is what makes it toxic to the body. Most OD cases in the UK have been dealt with in home, hospital visit was not necessary and no severe effects where reported. It's subligual administration helps it go directly into the brain and the low dosage is undetectable in urine. It would probably be okay from a physical standpoint, but that is not a certainty.

On the other hand, the detox is pretty long and very hard mentally. Intestine and sleep issues are long lasting and hard on the body, aside from toxicity. If you are as stubborn as me, the patience thing is hard, it could be harder with subs. The half life of sub is 6 times longer than dilaudid, so I don't think that is a good choice for you to get totally clean. As a maintenence drug, subutex provides some partial agonist pain relief and prevents withdrawal while on it.

If you hope to use alternative health care, I would avoid subutex and stick out your doctor's plan. You shouldn't take suboxone, but subutex is getting hard to get due to the abuse potential it has. Hang in there and try to be patient. I don't trust doctors easily either, so I get that, but sometimes we have to find one we trust enough to set us free. I did. I hope this info helps in some way.