Trying to hang on

[AP509]

I've been on methadone for almost a year. They detoxed me after my last relapse and today is day 3 without. Now I've done dope yesterday and the day before but not that much. I woke up few like like **** and took a subutex. I don't feel bad so I know I'm not in precip wd but I'm not sure if I should take another one or what? Please help. I'm trying desperately to stay clean

[gnarly_1]

HI  the first thing you need to do is STOP SELF MEDACATING!!!!!  your brain nee to heal this will take time  you can not beet the withdrawal process  espically with dope   give time a chance   you got to want it bad and be willling to go threw some discomfort to get there keep posting for support  you can do this.....................Gnarly

[WODAgirl]

merry-go-round....good analogy....

[VICourageous]

Hi..Great advise from above I must say..I went c/t from a 12 years use on Methadone and 2 other Meds..Not Good..A taper is good or at least get to a low dose..I took the subs for 4 days..Very Bad..It only made me detox 4 meds out..I have learned alot on here and subs do need to be under a Drs care..They know the time it takes to help rid the Dones out and to adjust the mgs down slowly..Having the Meds in your hands is not good..The little tape in the Brain will play back every excuse for "just one more"..I would also suggest going to some Meetings..They will help you get more tuned into your self..So from my experience I would just do a good Taper from the dones and not play the merry-go-round..We have all did it one way or another and our here today to share our experiences...Great Job on wanting your life back..It does get better a little tough sometimes but it nice to be clear headed and more tuned in with your God...
Bless.

[addiction777]

Well sounds like u were pushed into getting off methadone by doctors! I think u need to ask yourself if u really want to be done with methadone and subutex! The withdrawals
from any opiate are overwhelming but if u have the drive to get clean u can do it! I'm on 10 days clean off methadone after being on 120mls for the majority of 3 and a half years! the pain will last a short while compared to the uncomfortable reality of finding the next fix or going to the clinic everyday , u have come to the right place the people on this site are great at keeping u on track and giving secrets on how to make the WD 's as comfortable as possible I hope u join us on finally putting an end to dependency , keep us updated on which way u go and we will help get u through the WD every step!

[weaver71]

I used subutex to get off pretty high, long term methadone. I used subs for 20 days to get me throught he acute detox. I agree that using subs with a doctors care is best, though my local doctor I had to stay on them for 2 yrs for them to work. In out little town, the people know a lot  more about drugs than the doctors who prescribe them. Our local doctor graduated med school in the 50's and has lived in a small town ever since. So I had to educate myself and research a great deal to find out what to do. If you have not read the suboxone/subutex FAQs in the health pages at the bottom of this page, that's a good place to start. If you don't have access to a good sub program, you really need to educate yourself fast, especially if you've already started using them. So, how long and much merthadone are you kicking? That makes a difference. How much sub did you take, and how many days? These questions help us understand with better estimation what you might expect, and what coarse of action would suit your situation. Congrats on getting off methadone, you will not regret it, no matter how you may feel now. Keep us posted and Private Message me any time.

[WODAgirl]

And, for some people Sub might work.....but for me...those were bad to detox from too....just be careful....

[WODAgirl]

I'm on day 5, and ask a majority of these folks...I've been on here every day.....feeling like death.....you gotta kick it, man....don't take another one...it just delays the inevitable. You will have WD.....we all did......there are several people on here cold turkey from methadone or H....hopefully they'll chime in....

[LeaAnn807]

Well, I want to help you here, ok? But first, I've got to tell you something.  You haven't gotten clean yet!  Staying clean comes after you stop.  So, ok.....you have to GET clean.  If you want to do that with subutex, you don't take it here and there and whenever you want.  You go to a doctor, and do it the right way.  Subutex isn't designed to just take however you please!  You stopped methadone three days ago, and "did dope" the last two days and then subutex, right?  That's not going to get or keep you clean.  You either have to stop all of it or go to a doc and do the sub the right way!  

I wanna see you get clean!  You can't do it at the rate you're going.  I know the methadone withdrawal must absolutely be MISERABLE!  I've heard stories, but know that it's not forever, and the longer you take things to make it go away, the longer you will be sick!

Now, let's get you well!!!  What's the worst part of WD for you that is making you keep taking stuff?  Let's start there!