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Trying to quit Tramadol
Hello
I've been on Tramadol for about a year, taking about ten 50 mg pills per day, so 500 mg. I didn't really keep track, though, it may have been more for a while. As I've been making my mind up to quit, though, I've maintained 10 a day for a while.
I'm wanting to quit, and looking for input about my plan as well as just plain 'ol support.
I originally took them for legit pain issues but honestly I don't know if I even have pain anymore. And I took more than I should have. I read how addictive they were and did not even attempt to stop. I knew it would be a big deal once I did. I didn't like how they made me feel at first, and can't say I ever really did. I just didn't know when it would be a good time to stop.
I'm a busy, divorced, working mom of two little kids.
Some people, apparently, are real go-getters on Tramadol. Not me. And I have grown very weary of the zoned-out feeling I get on Tramadol. I feel dumb on it and I feel like a zombie. I feel self-conscious, like it's obvious. And I feel awful because my kids deserve a present mom. My boyfriend deserves a present girlfriend.
So, despite reading NUMEROUS horror stories about withdrawal from Tramadol, I started dreaming of stopping. Since I won't be able to take time off mommy-ing and working, I dug into lots of posts and noted what people said helped -- everything from herbal supplements to Benadryl to oxcarbazepine.
I believe that I've read that besides its opioid component, that Tramadol causes Serotonin release in the brain (not a true SSRI, though, I think?) and is an SNRI too, I believe.
From previous prescriptions I am presently armed with probably 20 hydrocodone, a month's supply of Zoloft (an SSRI) and Wellbutrin (acts on norepinepherine and dopamine, I believe). I'm probably not thinking very clearly and I'm just piecing together a bunch of crap I've read. But my thought with the hydro and antidepressants is that perhaps I can taper over to a very minimal amount of hydro long enough to get the antidepressant element of the Tramadol out of my system (should take 24-36 hours Tram-free, that's what I read) , after which I can take some amount of the antidepressants while I continue to taper off the hydro until I'm at zero for opiates. Then when I'm ready I can take a Prozac and be done with the antidepressant withdrawal component. Kind of a "divide and conquer" mentality :) Reading people's reports of coming off this drug, I think the antidepressant part has got to be the worst part to come clear of.
By the way, In case the Prozac part (above) didn't make sense, some people find that it's very very hard to come off an SSRI antidepressant, and I have found this to be the case when I came off the Zoloft a few years ago (I didn't like the way it made me feel and quit after 3 months). When I stopped taking it, my feet tingled and felt "intense" (kind of a restless-legs-syndrome feeling). I felt weird and disoriented. I tried a few times to taper off the Zoloft, taking less and less each day until finally my dose was simply nipping the very edge of a pill! Even so, when I finally stopped altogether, I suffered the discontinuation syndrome and it just made me feel horrid, so I went back on! Well, finally I read that the trick to coming off an antidepressant such as Zoloft (which has a medium-range half life) is to take a SINGLE dose of Prozac. Because Prozac has an long half life, it tapers itself down, beautifully. It worked. So for what it's worth that's my plan this time, when I'm jumping off the SSRI.
So here's what's happened this week, just kind of playing this by ear. I didn't intend to do a fast taper but I found to my surprise that it was possible to go a few days in a row at least on a much lower dose than I'd taken before. Based on my experience coming off an SSRI (where tapering quickly didn't really effect me too badly but that last jumping off point was like going through the rabbit hole), I thought maybe Tramadol might be similar. So far it is.
Sunday, I took 8 Trams (400 mg). Less than half my dose of the previous week. I took a Unisom gel at night (the same stuff that's in Benadryl) and it put me out hard.
Monday, I took 5 Trams (I took 2 at 7am and coasted as long as I could. I took 1 after lunch, and then pushed it until 5pm, when I took 2). I just wanted to see if I could do it. I wasn't going for any particular number. I took a Unisom gel at night.
Tuesday I took 4, I think. Maybe I took half a hydro? Not sure when I started feathering in the hydro. I took a Unisom gel at night and I believe it was hard to sleep.
Wednesday (yesterday), I think I took 3 Trams (one at 7am, 1 late morning when I started to feel wonky, and I think I took 1/2 at bedtime, but not until AFTER it was obvious I wasn't going to sleep otherwise. I took half a hyrdro at bed, too, and two Unisom gels. Even with all that, it was a challenge to fall asleep.
Today is Thursday at 9:40PM and I have not taken any Tramadol yet. I took 1 hydro in the morning and 1/2 a hydro this afternoon. I also took 2 30 mg pseudophedrine (decongestant--the kind you have to sign for) in the morning and 2 in the afternoon. I saw them in my medicine cabinet and I have to say I think they helped me fight the lack of energy I am definitely starting to feel. My skin is crawling a bit but my mind just wants to sleep. I ate a good dinner, though. I am not sure what I'll end up needing to take tonight to sleep. I guess I'm hoping not to need a Tramadol because 36 hours without is coming up fast, and after that I can start taking the Zoloft and see if that's going to make me feel better. I may introduce the Wellbutrin, too.
To others who have quit Tramadol or even attempted it--my full respect.
- Zoey
I've been on Tramadol for about a year, taking about ten 50 mg pills per day, so 500 mg. I didn't really keep track, though, it may have been more for a while. As I've been making my mind up to quit, though, I've maintained 10 a day for a while.
I'm wanting to quit, and looking for input about my plan as well as just plain 'ol support.
I originally took them for legit pain issues but honestly I don't know if I even have pain anymore. And I took more than I should have. I read how addictive they were and did not even attempt to stop. I knew it would be a big deal once I did. I didn't like how they made me feel at first, and can't say I ever really did. I just didn't know when it would be a good time to stop.
I'm a busy, divorced, working mom of two little kids.
Some people, apparently, are real go-getters on Tramadol. Not me. And I have grown very weary of the zoned-out feeling I get on Tramadol. I feel dumb on it and I feel like a zombie. I feel self-conscious, like it's obvious. And I feel awful because my kids deserve a present mom. My boyfriend deserves a present girlfriend.
So, despite reading NUMEROUS horror stories about withdrawal from Tramadol, I started dreaming of stopping. Since I won't be able to take time off mommy-ing and working, I dug into lots of posts and noted what people said helped -- everything from herbal supplements to Benadryl to oxcarbazepine.
I believe that I've read that besides its opioid component, that Tramadol causes Serotonin release in the brain (not a true SSRI, though, I think?) and is an SNRI too, I believe.
From previous prescriptions I am presently armed with probably 20 hydrocodone, a month's supply of Zoloft (an SSRI) and Wellbutrin (acts on norepinepherine and dopamine, I believe). I'm probably not thinking very clearly and I'm just piecing together a bunch of crap I've read. But my thought with the hydro and antidepressants is that perhaps I can taper over to a very minimal amount of hydro long enough to get the antidepressant element of the Tramadol out of my system (should take 24-36 hours Tram-free, that's what I read) , after which I can take some amount of the antidepressants while I continue to taper off the hydro until I'm at zero for opiates. Then when I'm ready I can take a Prozac and be done with the antidepressant withdrawal component. Kind of a "divide and conquer" mentality :) Reading people's reports of coming off this drug, I think the antidepressant part has got to be the worst part to come clear of.
By the way, In case the Prozac part (above) didn't make sense, some people find that it's very very hard to come off an SSRI antidepressant, and I have found this to be the case when I came off the Zoloft a few years ago (I didn't like the way it made me feel and quit after 3 months). When I stopped taking it, my feet tingled and felt "intense" (kind of a restless-legs-syndrome feeling). I felt weird and disoriented. I tried a few times to taper off the Zoloft, taking less and less each day until finally my dose was simply nipping the very edge of a pill! Even so, when I finally stopped altogether, I suffered the discontinuation syndrome and it just made me feel horrid, so I went back on! Well, finally I read that the trick to coming off an antidepressant such as Zoloft (which has a medium-range half life) is to take a SINGLE dose of Prozac. Because Prozac has an long half life, it tapers itself down, beautifully. It worked. So for what it's worth that's my plan this time, when I'm jumping off the SSRI.
So here's what's happened this week, just kind of playing this by ear. I didn't intend to do a fast taper but I found to my surprise that it was possible to go a few days in a row at least on a much lower dose than I'd taken before. Based on my experience coming off an SSRI (where tapering quickly didn't really effect me too badly but that last jumping off point was like going through the rabbit hole), I thought maybe Tramadol might be similar. So far it is.
Sunday, I took 8 Trams (400 mg). Less than half my dose of the previous week. I took a Unisom gel at night (the same stuff that's in Benadryl) and it put me out hard.
Monday, I took 5 Trams (I took 2 at 7am and coasted as long as I could. I took 1 after lunch, and then pushed it until 5pm, when I took 2). I just wanted to see if I could do it. I wasn't going for any particular number. I took a Unisom gel at night.
Tuesday I took 4, I think. Maybe I took half a hydro? Not sure when I started feathering in the hydro. I took a Unisom gel at night and I believe it was hard to sleep.
Wednesday (yesterday), I think I took 3 Trams (one at 7am, 1 late morning when I started to feel wonky, and I think I took 1/2 at bedtime, but not until AFTER it was obvious I wasn't going to sleep otherwise. I took half a hyrdro at bed, too, and two Unisom gels. Even with all that, it was a challenge to fall asleep.
Today is Thursday at 9:40PM and I have not taken any Tramadol yet. I took 1 hydro in the morning and 1/2 a hydro this afternoon. I also took 2 30 mg pseudophedrine (decongestant--the kind you have to sign for) in the morning and 2 in the afternoon. I saw them in my medicine cabinet and I have to say I think they helped me fight the lack of energy I am definitely starting to feel. My skin is crawling a bit but my mind just wants to sleep. I ate a good dinner, though. I am not sure what I'll end up needing to take tonight to sleep. I guess I'm hoping not to need a Tramadol because 36 hours without is coming up fast, and after that I can start taking the Zoloft and see if that's going to make me feel better. I may introduce the Wellbutrin, too.
To others who have quit Tramadol or even attempted it--my full respect.
- Zoey
Not just the logistics of the delivery, but hoping you don't get caught by someone you don't want to know AND its embarrassing with the mail and fedex people. They know what the heck I'm doing and I feel like they look at me and think "she's a druggie". I hate that feeling. I'm not damnit! Well, actually I am but there is a non-addict inside me. I was there before and I will be again. Day 3 here and I'm doing really well. About half of what I was taking and I've had no problems at all yet. I know its going to be harder the less I take so this next week will be challenging and then I am traveling for business. Hope I don't have any problems while being in meetings with clients. I dont' want to relapse as a way of getting through meetings...
Missy, I could really relate to what you wrote. I have missed enjoying sex, it's so sad. I'm with a great man and it's a waste, at the very least ;) It is definitely appreciating things on this side of quitting :)
Oh, and the whole logistics thing with the pill delivery...so exhausting.
Oh, and the whole logistics thing with the pill delivery...so exhausting.
Thanks, Debbie, feeling better now...not writhing in pain and timing my contractions, haha. I am trying a little soup now after basically a two-day fast. Wish me luck :)
How are you?
I just realized that the ice cream my boyfriend got has sorbitol in it, which tears me up big time. He served me a whole bowl if it the night before I went into "labor". Not saying I wasn't already uncomfortable, but that may have sent me over the edge. I need to sleep with one eye open, I guess. He's trying to kill me, haha! Oh wait, never mind. I don't sleep. Ah....detox is fun.
Thanks for the well wishes and concern, I really appreciate it. I havent looked into aftercare, a little nervous about it. Small town, vindictive ex, worried about my reputation and undergoing the humiliation he has been known to dole out.
How are you?
I just realized that the ice cream my boyfriend got has sorbitol in it, which tears me up big time. He served me a whole bowl if it the night before I went into "labor". Not saying I wasn't already uncomfortable, but that may have sent me over the edge. I need to sleep with one eye open, I guess. He's trying to kill me, haha! Oh wait, never mind. I don't sleep. Ah....detox is fun.
Thanks for the well wishes and concern, I really appreciate it. I havent looked into aftercare, a little nervous about it. Small town, vindictive ex, worried about my reputation and undergoing the humiliation he has been known to dole out.
Thanks, Debbie, feeling better now...not writhing in pain and timing my contractions, haha. I am trying a little soup now after basically a two-day fast. Wish me luck :)
How are you?
I just realized that the ice cream my boyfriend got has sorbitol in it, which tears me up big time. He served me a whole bowl if it the night before I went into "labor". Not saying I wasn't already uncomfortable, but that may have sent me over the edge. I need to sleep with one eye open, I guess. He's trying to kill me, haha! Oh wait, never mind. I don't sleep. Ah....detox is fun.
Thanks for the well wishes and concern, I really appreciate it. I havent looked into aftercare, a little nervous about it. Small town, vindictive ex, worried about my reputation and undergoing the humiliation he has been known to dole out.
How are you?
I just realized that the ice cream my boyfriend got has sorbitol in it, which tears me up big time. He served me a whole bowl if it the night before I went into "labor". Not saying I wasn't already uncomfortable, but that may have sent me over the edge. I need to sleep with one eye open, I guess. He's trying to kill me, haha! Oh wait, never mind. I don't sleep. Ah....detox is fun.
Thanks for the well wishes and concern, I really appreciate it. I havent looked into aftercare, a little nervous about it. Small town, vindictive ex, worried about my reputation and undergoing the humiliation he has been known to dole out.
hey zoey,
I hope and pray you are feeling much better now. have you
checked into any counseling and/or support groups?
congrats on your clean time. well done.
keep up the good work.
be blessed,
debbie
I hope and pray you are feeling much better now. have you
checked into any counseling and/or support groups?
congrats on your clean time. well done.
keep up the good work.
be blessed,
debbie
I wish it was too! You are right about it being a quick pick up, but not worth it in the end! Ever since I started trams I have had ZERO sex drive. In fact in makes me not want my husband to even touch me. It also makes it very hard to sleep unless I take way too much. My husband comes home from deployment in a few months and I want to want him. It was feeling like a chore before he left. I also hate having to figure out a time to have my pills delivered without him finding out. I had to travel for my grandfather's funeral 2 years ago and actually had pills delivered to a family members address while I was there. I hate having to have a pill bottle attached to me. It is so absurd!
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