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Trying to understand the soboxin detox?

Hey everyone, I've been wanting to kick the pills of opaites for a year now, up to 200mg a day.  Within the past couple weeks I've started soboxin at 4mg  and now at 1mg to 2mg! I'm wondering what are going to be the WD effects if any? I've been in the hospital on morphine are a couple months and they scaled me back within a couple weeks! Just from experience, why is it so hard to drop from 1mg soboxin or .5 mg then anyone taking 30mg oc for 30 days??? I'm having a hard time understanding why people are on methadone/soboxin years for years??? Also what's the issue with "jumping off" from 1 or .5mg ??? I don't understand and I'm trying to understand as well, I'm done with the pills and I understand I'm not gonna feel great. I just can't comparhhend months or years of taking 10 or 20mg ???? Anyone should come off that quite easily
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Pain Killer Equivalent Doses (Oral)
1.2mg.............Buprenorphine (Bupe)
200mg............Codeine (Tylenol 2, 3, 4, etc)
30-60mg.........Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) (orally it = morphine, IV/IM/insuffilated it's 2x as strong)
30mg..............Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lorcet, etc)
7.5mg.............Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)
4mg................Levorphanol (Dromoran)
300mg............Meperidine (Demerol)
20mg..............Oxycodone (Oxycontin, Percocet)
10mg..............Oxymorphone (Numorphan)
200-300mg.....Propoxyphene (Darvocet)
150mg............Tramadol (Ultram, Ultracet)
I'm still wondering why it takes so long to scale back???? By now with the soboxin the OC WD is close to being over , and my understanding is soboxin is to get off opaites in a reasonable time! If I can drop to .5 or less within aweek I can't see why I shouldnt be off completely?  I didn't say I haven't felt bad this past couple weeks but I feel better then day 4 cold turkey!
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Suboxone builds up in your system. It a a long half life and takes time to be leave the body after your last dose.

Here is a sample:
If you’ve ceased usage of this drug and are struggling with Suboxone withdrawal symptoms, you’re probably wondering whether any of the drug is still in your system.  To determine how long the drug is likely to stay in your system after your last dose, it is necessary to consider Suboxone’s half-life, or more specifically, the half-lives of its active ingredients buprenorphine and naloxone.  The half-life of buprenorphine is an estimated 37 hours, which is considered extremely long.

It takes your body nearly 2 full days to excrete just 50% of the buprenorphine within a Suboxone dose.  Considering the 37 hour half-life of buprenorphine, it could be estimated to be fully cleared from your system in under 9 days (8.48).  The half-life of naloxone is reportedly between 30 minutes and 1 hour 21 minutes.
It is important for you to change the people, places and things associated with your use. Get into some aftercare to prevent relapse. Support groups, counseling, church.
Healthy eating, a workout regiment.
I definitely agree and am doing so every day
So after taking a small amount the it's still in your system after 9 days?  So taking 2mg for a couple days then dropping down to half or .25 for a week , not only are you lowering the dose each time your spreading out with WD as well? To a point it should be null? To a point
Don't yoyo your dose. As you can see by the comparison chart bupe  is very strong. If you took 1 mg today stick to that and go down from there.
I have no plans to, so after less then .5mg is the right place to stop? Corr
I have no plans to, so after less then .5mg is the right place to stop? Corr
The only thing that hinders me is the virtgo in the past. I can deal with the runs, the chills but the world spinning puts me to a halt!
Many people even taper down to crumbs. So that would be less than even .25mgs. The vertigo could be because of too fast a taper, dehydration, High blood pressure. It is very important to stay hydrated during detox. High bp is also a problem during detox.
Take Imodium for the runs.
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I'm still wondering though after you bring yourself down to 10mg OC or .5/.25 sub what's so hard about not taking anything?   My personal thought process on this! I was taking 40mg OC for a few months and had stopped for several months without any WD but was still wanting the ",high" I asking, what's the difference? If I take SOB for a month starting at 4 and decrease weekly by half or more , which I'm 2 weeks into without any considerable discomfort. Whats the outcome at week 4????
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