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Vicodin/Tramadol withdrawal symptoms
I have been clean from Vicodin 5/500mg and Tramadol 50mg for about a week now, and I'm in a long term tapering of Xanax.I have not experienced any discomfort from the Xanax withdrawal due to the slow tapering process but since two days ago and today is the worst, I have been feling severe migraines and severe pain in the muscles of my back and neck, specially arund my shoulder blades, where some " knots" are forming and are very painful to the touch. I s this a common effect of the withdrawal of Vicodin/Tramadol? How long will they last?
I forgot to tell I was using Vicodin for about a year twice daily and Tramadol for about 2 years , also twice daily. Never seeked or experienced any high, so I'm not psychologically addicted, but of course my body got used to it. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I forgot to tell I was using Vicodin for about a year twice daily and Tramadol for about 2 years , also twice daily. Never seeked or experienced any high, so I'm not psychologically addicted, but of course my body got used to it. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I'be been on Tramadol for 3 weeks now for a broken rib. However, in the last 5 days I have had intense pain in my upper body/back/neck & migraines which have today become unbearable. I am still taking Tramadol but have reduced the daily dosage. I feel worse than I did when I broke my rib and am desperate to feel better. What should I do? I am going to call my out of hours GP service this evening for further help aswell but would be keen to hear views from people with similar stories. I have simply never felt so ill :(
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Hi, thank you for your post. I didnt even know these forums were out there until I tried stopping tramadol for good 2 weeks ago. I was prescribed them 15 months ago after being hit by a car and very quickly noticed their addictive tendancies but genuinely needed them as I broke bones in 6 different places. Having dealt with addiction and withdrawal before I went down slowly to 1 pill a night to help me bathe, dry hair etc and was on that dose for 3 months but the difference going from 1 to zero is unbelievable. I spent 4 days wondering why I felt like I had full blown flu when I have had the flu jab and even now after 2 weeks I am getting the worst migraines ever. My frustration is lots of people on this and other sites says that exercise helps quite a lot but due to my injuries I physically cant do any (not without the dreaded pills anyway). Could anyone pls advise me how long this hell can go on for and if massage and/or a trip to the chiropractor would help me. I do not have enough money to try both in the same week but am way beyond desperate here. I can feel that the migraines are linked to the neck and shoulder pain but how they are linked I have no clue about. I do have plenty of other horrible side affects but the migraines are the worst and the part thats making me feel like I am losing it as they almost always hit me at night so I can only sleep if I take a sumatriptin which whilst dulling the migraine, also half sedates me so that I cannot function and more importantly work the next day. Any advice any one of you on this site could give would be greatly appreciated. I find it totally ridiculous that I was not allowed to bring my morphine home from the hospital with me yet these pills are dished out like candy by docs without so much as a warning. I guess what i'm hoping for other than tips is some kind of hope that things will get better.
Thank you all in advance.
Thank you all in advance.
i was taking tramadol in large dose a few days a month...withdrawal from 20 pills a day a few days a month were bad. i felt like i had the flu. it lasted around 3 days..it happened every month. i was unable to work when it happened. so i had to quit when i got a career job..now im been taking vidoin instead since october or nov or dec. 6-8 pills at a time now. im scared to quit. withdrawal symptoms stories scare me. but after reading this it eases my anxiety attacks a bit. but im still scared. i feel like i need them to get thru my day spending money i should be saving on them. i cannot take any other drugs to help me quit because i am scared of new drugs and it will give me anxiety attacks. if i was to ease off it. how many should i ease from since im taking around 28-32 a day right now ...5/500's..if i take norcos i eat around 6-7 at a time. dont know why is the same number of pills that take for me to feel it.
Addicted to "Tammy" as I call her (Tramadol) for 2 years.
Here are a couple of things that helped with the terrible withdrawals:
1. 2-3 liters of water a day minimum. Flushes out the toxins, and makes you feel better during the process. The more all types of athletes learn, the more they realize the importance of water. Drinking several liters of water helps with just about every bodily function. I have gone cold turkey off of caffeine before without any headache or any symptoms simply by drinking a gallon of water per day. Too bad it doesn't work that well for addiction, but it does make a very big impact on speed of recovery and reduction in withdrawal symptoms.
2. Eat lots of bananas for the RLS like symptoms. Also, gatorade and High amino acid, potassium and electrolyte drinks. If you check out the label on a lot of protein drinks they are also high in potassium, as well. I've read that the most successful detox programs for even heavy drugs like heroine use high doses of amino acids in the prescribed diet in order to increase the success rate of beating addiction. It has something to do with how amino acids affect the brain. And, I personally noticed a difference, if for no other reason, than its simply just a really healthy way to eat.
3.Only take one hot bath, they feel good, but they dehydrate you thus reducing the benefits of the water. I've heard that keeping the temperature cold in the room while you sleep helps with the RLS, but did not try it.
4. Sleep aids. Well, if you've gone through it or going through it, you know that the worst is at night. It ***** to not be able to sleep. Sleep aids like melatonin or even Valium can be taken to help you sleep through the withdrawals. However, two words of caution. #1, you can end up getting addicted to them, #2 you can end up even more miserable from being even more tired, but STILL not able to get to sleep. However, it does work for some people. I think it depends on how easily you fall asleep and how bad your symptoms are.
5. Exercise. You've probably heard it, but pay attention, Sweating is an awesome way to remove the toxins from your body and speeds up your recovery process.
6. Ok, this is going to get a bit personal here, but I'm speaking from personal experience. For me, Tramadol reduces my sex drive and performance dramatically. And, when I start to come off it, my libido kicks in big time. If you have a partner during this time, it will really help you make it through the withdrawal period. Have sex a lot, whether you have a partner or not. I'm serious, it helps and is nice to have something pleasurable happen during this difficult process.
7. When weening: It is always a great idea to reduce your meds gradually. With Tramadol, I recommend that it is done over a longer than normal period of time in comparison to other pills like hydrocodone and others. And really fine tune it at the end. Instead of going from 2 to 1 50mg pill per dose, drop it from 2 to1.5 per dose, and then going from 1 pill, to 1 half a pill to 1/4th a pill per dose. And, reduce a step only every 3 or 4 days. Tramadol stays in the system much longer than other drugs. My heavy withdrawals will not often start until the second day after I stop.
Thats why I loved taking it at first, 2 pills would go all day and even all night at first.
8. My only other advice is to not get frustrated when you can't sleep. Just accept that you are going to have to stay up, your body will eventually put you to sleep when its had enough.
One other note that I have is to be careful using other drugs, like valium, or even hydrocodone to get to sleep. I was able to score some Norco (hydrocone) and tried to use it to get off the tramadol. However, I noticed that my body was just too smart for that. Taking Norco just halted the detox process in my body and would only suspend the withdrawals. Eventually, you have to face it head on.
I've read that hospitals can have great detox programs and drugs to help with withdrawal symptoms specifically. God I hope that's true. If you have a doctor, be honest about it. Chemical dependency is a huge epidemic and your doctor will not be surprised. They can prescribe things to help.
Hope this info helps someone.
Here are a couple of things that helped with the terrible withdrawals:
1. 2-3 liters of water a day minimum. Flushes out the toxins, and makes you feel better during the process. The more all types of athletes learn, the more they realize the importance of water. Drinking several liters of water helps with just about every bodily function. I have gone cold turkey off of caffeine before without any headache or any symptoms simply by drinking a gallon of water per day. Too bad it doesn't work that well for addiction, but it does make a very big impact on speed of recovery and reduction in withdrawal symptoms.
2. Eat lots of bananas for the RLS like symptoms. Also, gatorade and High amino acid, potassium and electrolyte drinks. If you check out the label on a lot of protein drinks they are also high in potassium, as well. I've read that the most successful detox programs for even heavy drugs like heroine use high doses of amino acids in the prescribed diet in order to increase the success rate of beating addiction. It has something to do with how amino acids affect the brain. And, I personally noticed a difference, if for no other reason, than its simply just a really healthy way to eat.
3.Only take one hot bath, they feel good, but they dehydrate you thus reducing the benefits of the water. I've heard that keeping the temperature cold in the room while you sleep helps with the RLS, but did not try it.
4. Sleep aids. Well, if you've gone through it or going through it, you know that the worst is at night. It ***** to not be able to sleep. Sleep aids like melatonin or even Valium can be taken to help you sleep through the withdrawals. However, two words of caution. #1, you can end up getting addicted to them, #2 you can end up even more miserable from being even more tired, but STILL not able to get to sleep. However, it does work for some people. I think it depends on how easily you fall asleep and how bad your symptoms are.
5. Exercise. You've probably heard it, but pay attention, Sweating is an awesome way to remove the toxins from your body and speeds up your recovery process.
6. Ok, this is going to get a bit personal here, but I'm speaking from personal experience. For me, Tramadol reduces my sex drive and performance dramatically. And, when I start to come off it, my libido kicks in big time. If you have a partner during this time, it will really help you make it through the withdrawal period. Have sex a lot, whether you have a partner or not. I'm serious, it helps and is nice to have something pleasurable happen during this difficult process.
7. When weening: It is always a great idea to reduce your meds gradually. With Tramadol, I recommend that it is done over a longer than normal period of time in comparison to other pills like hydrocodone and others. And really fine tune it at the end. Instead of going from 2 to 1 50mg pill per dose, drop it from 2 to1.5 per dose, and then going from 1 pill, to 1 half a pill to 1/4th a pill per dose. And, reduce a step only every 3 or 4 days. Tramadol stays in the system much longer than other drugs. My heavy withdrawals will not often start until the second day after I stop.
Thats why I loved taking it at first, 2 pills would go all day and even all night at first.
8. My only other advice is to not get frustrated when you can't sleep. Just accept that you are going to have to stay up, your body will eventually put you to sleep when its had enough.
One other note that I have is to be careful using other drugs, like valium, or even hydrocodone to get to sleep. I was able to score some Norco (hydrocone) and tried to use it to get off the tramadol. However, I noticed that my body was just too smart for that. Taking Norco just halted the detox process in my body and would only suspend the withdrawals. Eventually, you have to face it head on.
I've read that hospitals can have great detox programs and drugs to help with withdrawal symptoms specifically. God I hope that's true. If you have a doctor, be honest about it. Chemical dependency is a huge epidemic and your doctor will not be surprised. They can prescribe things to help.
Hope this info helps someone.
DONT TAKE TRAMADOL! I only wish I would have been smart enough to do my research before it was too late. I took it for over a year, got addicted very quickly and its been 4 months now and Im still not okay. I now have panick attacks for no reason what so ever and anxiety sympotoms from A to Z on a daily basis. My hands and face will tingle, My head feels like theres a rubberband around it and I find myself struggling to take deep breaths at times. Ive been to the doc who tried putting me on celexa, took it 3 days and never will again, it caused a 2 hour long painck attack, I really thought I might die. I cant stress enough how this drug affected my current life, I have 2 woderful children who depend on me and I feel like some days Ive let them down bc of Tramadol. I dont know how long it will take to get back to normal if anyone else has expierenced this please let me know.
I have now been off of Trams and Vics for going on about 50 days...if you would have asked me a year ago if I could have done this it would have been a very loud "hell No". At the time I switched from vics to Trams I was taking up to 35 vics a day, than around 30 trams a day....no withdrawl from the vics because the trams took care of that. I felt like such a loser for a long time but now am 50 days free from that hell. Please people get the help you need, life will be hellish for A couple weeks but at least you will HAVE a life. And this addiction was brought on by a severe accident and many surgeries where that doc felt no need to warn me of these demon pills.....over 100,000 dollars gone for 6 years of addiction but now at least I have hope even if there is alot of pain with it....and sometimes pain means ur still alive and not dead from overdose!!!
Yeah - what I can understand in my research - the tramadol is worse than morphine and oxy withdrawal due to it's molecule affects the u-opiods receptor (which the other two do not). Please see the quote from Wikipedia below...
"Tramadol is a synthetic analog of codeine, and, as such, an opioid. Opioids are chemical compounds which agonise one or more of the human opiate receptors, regardless of the receptor class or sub-type. The opioid agonistic effect of tramadol and its major metabolites is almost complete exclusively effects the μ-opioid receptor. This characteristic is notable, because even morphine is not exclusive to the μ-receptor, although it manifests the preponderance of its opioid agonistic effects here"
I hope that answers your inquiry. However, this is what it does.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
"Tramadol is a synthetic analog of codeine, and, as such, an opioid. Opioids are chemical compounds which agonise one or more of the human opiate receptors, regardless of the receptor class or sub-type. The opioid agonistic effect of tramadol and its major metabolites is almost complete exclusively effects the μ-opioid receptor. This characteristic is notable, because even morphine is not exclusive to the μ-receptor, although it manifests the preponderance of its opioid agonistic effects here"
I hope that answers your inquiry. However, this is what it does.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
WOW....very well writen, sounds as if you are going down the right path....Stay active in your recovery, but I feel as if you already know what you must do, I think people should take some inspiration from your story. Alot on here have suffered from this devil pill, glad you are getting your life back. From what i read tramadol w/ds must last longer than hydro/perks and simular drugs, is it cause of the whole sytetic thing???????
It was six years ago that I started on tramadol. I had inquired with the doctor about the issues of this pain medicine involving an already diagnosed addict. I had been in and out of the 12 step programs for many years. When the doctor approached me about this medicine - he assured me that it was a non-narcotic and non-addictive. Even though I had first been prescribed to this pain medicine 6 years ago, my consistent use of it did not begin until 3 years ago. It started slowly but surely until I was up to, within the last 2 years, 500-600 mg a day. I realized the animal that was lurking when I was trying to get my scripts filled at pharmacies and they told me they wouldn't fill them.
I have now been totally off of Tramadol for 17 days. I have missed many days of work, during the taper and after the taper, due to withdrawal symptoms. I was put on my tapering, at the emergency room, on 8.18.09. I am still not out of the woods. I attend NA everyday and I am really trying to get my head straight. I still have episodes of euphoria that tramadol gave me over a month later. I have been put on Trazozone to sleep and put on Celexa to help restore the receptors that are trying madly to rewire.
This drug was prescribed to me due to chronic fibromyalgia and having back surgery back in 1999. I wish I would of taken a couple of minutes to research this medicine and not just taking a doctors word on it. If you are an addict - do not take this pain medication. It is noted widely that tramadol is harder to come off than methadone and vicodin.
Currently, on a physical level, my muscles ache throughout - to the bone. I have over $3,100 worth of dental work due to the use of tramadol. I cannot control eupohoria- it just comes and goes. However, the hallucinating has seized and the night tremors. It will get better for whomever is traveling down this path, such as me, but please be strong and don't give in to this...its just a little white pill and should not control u.
I have now been totally off of Tramadol for 17 days. I have missed many days of work, during the taper and after the taper, due to withdrawal symptoms. I was put on my tapering, at the emergency room, on 8.18.09. I am still not out of the woods. I attend NA everyday and I am really trying to get my head straight. I still have episodes of euphoria that tramadol gave me over a month later. I have been put on Trazozone to sleep and put on Celexa to help restore the receptors that are trying madly to rewire.
This drug was prescribed to me due to chronic fibromyalgia and having back surgery back in 1999. I wish I would of taken a couple of minutes to research this medicine and not just taking a doctors word on it. If you are an addict - do not take this pain medication. It is noted widely that tramadol is harder to come off than methadone and vicodin.
Currently, on a physical level, my muscles ache throughout - to the bone. I have over $3,100 worth of dental work due to the use of tramadol. I cannot control eupohoria- it just comes and goes. However, the hallucinating has seized and the night tremors. It will get better for whomever is traveling down this path, such as me, but please be strong and don't give in to this...its just a little white pill and should not control u.
I have been abusing tramado and vicodin for 10 months now. I am going to have a shoulder replacement in a few weeks. I am so scared of withdrawals. I need to take them for the pain but I take about 8 tramado all at once about 3 times a day. The vicodin I'll take up to 6 at time. I'm not sure what to do when this is all over and I can't get them anymore, I really hate myself for getting to this point. I know better I was addicted 10 years ago, and swore I would never do this again.
Julie
Julie
Hi, I've been on Tramadol for 8 months taking 200mg daily for my lupus\fibromyalgia . Ive noticed lately that they wear off so much faster now and if I don't take my pills on time and miss it by an hour or so I already start feeling the withdraw symptoms. Flu-like symptoms, anxiety and depression and body aches, its horrible. I am also taking placquinel (to suppress the immune system) and methylpredisone (for inflammation). I want to get off Tramdol but I'm afraid of the withdraw effects that I'm going to have and the fact that I may be too sick to work. Someone please give me advice :(
WELL, I WAS ADDICTED TO HYDROCODONE AFTER I HAD MY FIRST CHILD. I JUST THOUGHT THAT HURT. THEN STILL HAVING SOME PAIN I WAS GIVEN ULTRAM. I WISH TO GOD I HAD NEVER TAKEN IT. I HAVE BEEN TAKING IT ON AND OFF FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS. AND I AM READY TO BE NORMAL AGAIN. I WANT TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY. SO HERE WE ARE DAY 2. MY LEGS ARE ACHING, MY MIND IS DIZZY. I KNOW THAT TONIGHT WHEN I LAY DOWN TO GO TO SLEEP I WONT SLEEP. I WILL FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO KEEP MOVING MY LEGS. IT'S THE STRANGEST FEELING. IT'S PROBABLY THE WORST PART OF THE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS FOR ME. I TOOK HALF OF AN ULTRAM LAST NIGHT, JUST SO I COULD GO TO SLEEP. MY DR. TOLD ME THAT IT'S A MUSCLE RELAXER THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO KEEP MOVING. UGH THIS IS HORRIBLE. BUT AFTER THE FIRST NIGHT OF CRAZY LADY GETTING UP WATCHING TV, GOING TO THE BATHROOM, PRAYING "JESUS JUST LET ME GO TO SLEEP" I WILL BE OKAY. WELL, GUESS THE FUN STARTS TONIGHT.
Hey everyone- I'm new to this. I am hoping that someone will have some answers. I have been taking Lexapro for almost one year now. I stopped taking it about a week ago. I taperd down to 1/2 pill for one week everyday then 1/2 pill every other day for one week. In the meantime I was having back pain and was taking 3- 50mg Tramadol for 2 weeks. I just stopped that cold turkey about a week ago. I am having what I fear are withdrawls although I do not know to which drug. I feel like I'm high without taking anything. I have the chills, hot/cold flashes, goose bumps, headache and muscle aches. Any insight as to which drug it could be. I'm afraid to take a Tramadol to see if the pain goes away because I've already come so far this week and don't want to reset my progress. To make the confusion worse there is a flu going around my work so I don't know if that's what it is either.
Thanks to all for your replies. Right now my head is hurting really bad and the cramps too. I just revisited the page of amino acids protocol and ordered all the stuff at a vitamin online store, I should have them by the midle or end of the week, let's see if that helps.
Bob
Bob
Tramadol should never be stopped abruptly, your doctor should have informed you of this. It lowers the seizure threshold (i know i sound like a parrot) and has anti'depressant effects. They have also found that if taken w/other ant'd's can cause serotonin syndrome. I had a crick in my neck and shoulder for the LONGEST time after stopping ULTRAM. It didnt' go away until I (very begrudingly) agreed to a short term script for celexa. the exact med you don't want to take WITH tram but will if taken for 3-6 mo. period will open the pathways and get things regenerating. (ultram 200mg/day or more will take at least a month to clear your system. I'd bet my bottom dollar that your pain is blocked pathways and partly to blame is the cold turkey process involving trams. cold turkey offf opioids ***** but it won't kill you. Tramadol is dangerous be careful!
Good Luck, yea Doans are back ache pills, over the counter. Green box. I have heard people say they worked really good for them. Yea, day ZERO all over again, you know it. I just hope you don't end up having to bite the bullet and have to resort to something strong (like Vics or Trams), and just accept having to be on it for your whole life. I hope they go away soon for you bro. Take care, and good luck with the doctor, I hope you find some good solution(s) for your pains.
Yes , Pan, it has been a while with this annoying pain and I do not know how I stand it, but I know if I take another tramadol or vicodin to alleviate it, I'll back to day 0 and will have to go through this whole pain process again and may be worse. No, I have not tried doans, neither I know what are those. On Monday I have an appointment with a doctor I was refereed to visit to follow up after my visit to ER. I'll address my concerns to him, discuss the posibilities of making this more bearable without recurring in another narcotics pain killers. Lets see what happens.
Well, looks like I got a lot to look forward to. I just hope my muscles don't hurt as bad as yours. I seem to get more stomach pains and leg cramps and Real Bad Headaches. But a couple weeks after I get off Tramadol, well who knows what will happen. I know it's not going to be good. But I am prepared, mentally, and physically for the challenge. Man, I wish I could give you some good advise, but you seem to be all over the problem, trying to take care of it without any pain killers. You have hung in there very well, having not taken any Hydros or Trams. How about Doans? You try that stuff yet? Just remember the pills are nothing but a doorway into a Whole Lot of Trouble, not that you need to hear that. I can't believe it has not got better by now. This has been going on for some time now. Hang in there Bob.
Yes, PanSinoeis, you are right, that was my intention. By the way I forgot which post was it, but we talked about Imitrex for migraines and I looked up on the web and you're right, there are cases of death related to its use.I just have to be careful, anyway I don't take them often cause my insurance only covers 9 pills for 1 month.
I just posted a new thread about vicodin/tramadol withdrawal symptoms, my muscle switching and cramps have extended to my whole back, my shoulders, neck(back and front), chest, some on the arms and the back of my head. It is really painful, frustrating and I really don't what else to do, I tried flexeril, is not working, methocarbamol didn't either, heating pad is only temporary comfort. The muscles seems to be tense and tender to the touch and give me great headaches. I'm kind of desperate, I don't what else to do. I looked today at the remaining pills of vicodin and tramadol and was tempted to take them to make the pain goes away quickly, it is frustrating, but I refrained from taking them.
Is it normal to have these pains after 16 days clean cold turkey? I think it is a long time for that, please help!
I just posted a new thread about vicodin/tramadol withdrawal symptoms, my muscle switching and cramps have extended to my whole back, my shoulders, neck(back and front), chest, some on the arms and the back of my head. It is really painful, frustrating and I really don't what else to do, I tried flexeril, is not working, methocarbamol didn't either, heating pad is only temporary comfort. The muscles seems to be tense and tender to the touch and give me great headaches. I'm kind of desperate, I don't what else to do. I looked today at the remaining pills of vicodin and tramadol and was tempted to take them to make the pain goes away quickly, it is frustrating, but I refrained from taking them.
Is it normal to have these pains after 16 days clean cold turkey? I think it is a long time for that, please help!
I don't think you went to the ER because you where seeking drugs. I don't agree with medschoolisHARD. If you wanted those, you have those at home. You went to the ER to try to get relief from your pains without having to take some addictive opiate. That's how I read into it.
Toradol and Stadol at the ER won't do much and can be dangerous if you are on opioids. Honesty = best policy especially at the ER. Understreatment of pain is often confused with abberant drug seeking behavior. Tramadol (another 'dol') is a very weak mu opioid. I liken it to Naproxen with some prozac sprinkled on top. The w/d's are nasty, interactions w/ anti-d's can be dangerous and permanent, and of course your doctor tells you none of this because he thinks if you are NOT addicted that trams will work just great for ya. He also gets extra points for every 'done' he/she can transfer to 'dol'. I've even heard of ER personell having a good laugh shooting up naieve "addicts" and watching them get frustrated and angry. Stadol and Toradol can also bring on precipitated w/d in the opioid dependent patient-depending on dosages of both. Nothing synthetic is ok in our bodies for any length of time. Plant derived is a different story. So, don't bother w/ the Ul/trams unless you absolutely have to. The crazy w/d's aren't worth it, imho:)
You're completely wrong, I never denied I am an addict, if so were the case I were not be here in this forum, I don't deny being an addict.I did went to ER seeking drugs, I did not ask for any, and none I came with. I even have here at my house half a bottle of Vicodin and Tramadol and have not touched them in 14 or 15 days. I'm weaning off slowly from Xanax and I'm not increasing back my dose, and I quit cold turkey Tramadol and Vicodin.
You should be more careful in labeling people.
You should be more careful in labeling people.
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