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WENT TO AN ADDICTION SPECIALIST TODAY

I went to an addiction specialist today.  I am 6 days clean.  He wants me to start Sub and to do an outpatient program and also two days a week one on one sessions with him.  Do I need the Sub since I am 6 days clean.  The problem is I can get clean but not stay clean for any amount of time.  He said the sub will help keep me from using.  He said he has patients that have been on it for 2 years and some that only stay on it a few months.  Please give me advice.
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Been off subtex seven days arfter nine years ov being on twelve mill deal down when do enagy cume bk  will it get better soon
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1827057 tn?1397520277
Hi Gardav,you would do way better if you post a new question on the forum.This thread is over 3 years old.Idk why the above ppl are anwering her question as if it were yesterday.I don't have experience with subs.Sorry I cant help.Go to  med help and post a new question in the addiction forum and alot of people will be there to help you
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im trying to get off subs and im down to a 1/4 a day but it still hard to get off. Can anyone tell me how hard it will be to get off a 1/4 a day?..I,ve been taking a 1/4 a day for more than a week.
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From a very personal experience, I can tell you very honestly that due to chronic female pain for 2 years, I was on 750 mg. of Vicodin.  After my surgery to relieve the pain, I was finding that I craved the Vicodin.  At the suggestion of a friend, I went to a doctor who "specialiizes" in opiate-dependency.  I was thrilled to have been given Suboxone (8mg/daily) initially.  After 3 years, my husband almost left me, I lost friends that I once had very close, fun relationtionships with, and cared about very little; although I did have energy.  After my husband shared his concerns, I decided that day to quit--cold turkey.  I am on day 10 and it's been hell.  I believe coming off the Vicoldin was much easier.  To anyone that is considering taking Suboxone, please think again.  It is a cop-out and a very, very addictive drug.  Weaning would not have been a choice for me; I would find it too easy to cheat and relapse.  I am d-o-n-e with it all.  I can't sleep at night, I'm unmotivated, have chills, am restless, etc.  It's hell on earth.  I will get through this though.  I only wonder how long it will take to "fully recover".  My biggest regret in life is ever getting on it.
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1711184 tn?1308350797
So I have been on opana for about 8-9 months about 40-80 mil aday up the nose is it possible for me to go ct if I had a week or so before I have to go back to work. This drug is ruining my life I can't function properly if I don't have it within a hour or so after I get up. The anxiety and rls and no sleep kills me what can I do. I was two days clean and it's just so everywhere ppl calling me asking me if I need it. What do I do Jrockn502 please respond and let me know if anyone can give me any advice thanks
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1711184 tn?1308350797
So I have been on opana for about 8-9 months about 40-80 mil aday up the nose is it possible for me to go ct if I had a week or so before I have to go back to work. This drug is ruining my life I can't function properly if I don't have it within a hour or so after I get up. The anxiety and rls and no sleep kills me what can I do. I was two days clean and it's just so everywhere ppl calling me asking me if I need it. What do I do Jrockn502 please respond and let me know if anyone can give me any advice thanks
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1711184 tn?1308350797
So I have been on opana for about 8-9 months about 40-80 mil aday up the nose is it possible for me to go ct if I had a week or so before I have to go back to work. This drug is ruining my life I can't function properly if I don't have it within a hour or so after I get up. The anxiety and rls and no sleep kills me what can I do. I was two days clean and it's just so everywhere ppl calling me asking me if I need it. What do I do Jrockn502 please respond and let me know if anyone can give me any advice thanks
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Back for one more opinion, when you go back in 2 weeks you will be through WD. Do not take the subs.  Now would be when you need them.  IF you get out of hell now, do not let them give you a one way ticket back.
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Not sure where you all are, but in my state, a sub doc has to write the script.
He/she can only have 100 pt on the roll at once.  You can not get it from a doc who had not completed the addiction training.  Interested in hearing how it works for all you.
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I went on sub hoping 2 to b on only temporarily after I'd been clean (4 cravings) and now wish the drs. Truly knew what they were doing. Instead of tapering they start such high dose w no plan 2 ever take ne off. I detoxed on My own it wAs pure hell! Just like coming off oxys & my shrink tried to tell me there wasn't any withdrawal from subs 16 mg a day down to 0 the next day. I almost jumped over her desk and strangled her stupid self!



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1331115 tn?1536362140
Hopeful---This is a really old thread you should start a new one if you have questions as there are many people who can give you answers. So go back to the forum and click on the button that says "Post A Question"
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1349676 tn?1277912449
Well I feel awful with a 80mg-100mg daily habit :-\ and reading all this horror about sub, makes me scared to use it now...dang it. >_<  I wonder if it would be ok SHORT term. My habit is about 200  10/325 Norco every 34 days. :(

PS so happy for you, Madison!
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so good to hear from you!!! sorry i am just now reading this, i was at the beach last week
happy to hear abotu this doctor, he is actually treating your addiction, depression and telling you to attend meetings, so wonderful
i am surprised he said that one of his patients got custody back on suboxone, the judge i went through told me that i could not be on sub., maybe its different where you live
congradulations on everything, let me know what you think about meetings, people usually love or hate their first meeting
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306867 tn?1299249709
He sounds like a great doctor !  Although, I truly believe Sub has saved lives and has it's place in addiction recovery, I am glad you didn't go that route.  Your habit was small, but big or small addiction is difficult. It's your determination to get through this without sub that's impressive. Your doing all the right things, NA, counseling.  I just know your going to be a success story.   So happy for you !   Keep it up girl !
Hugs, Mary
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617347 tn?1331293081
Ohhhhhhh, yesss, this sounds the very right way and even the most intelligent way to do things for you, olé for the doctor and  great for you :)

im really happy for you, it was so good reading this post and your explanations, you seem full of hope and strenght now. go for it, nena !
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Internal medicine is the branch of medicine concerned with the study of the physiology and pathology of the internal  organs and with the medical diagnosis and treatment of disorders of these organs.

I'm glad to hear things are looking up for you!!
Congrats on your clean time!!
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199177 tn?1490498534
I am gald they seemed to be looking at your best interest not just making money .You can get so much postive out of this all you have to be is open to it and honest with yourself.
avis
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Wow awesome. I am glad that he thinks 35mg a day is a small habit b/c mine was only 40mg at 5 mg doses. Maybe its not going to be as tough as we think. I believe I am over the bulk of physicals just the mental battle now!
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452063 tn?1324074916
Good to know that your OK. You sound great.You can do this, I know that you can.Glad you didn't chose the Sub yet. Love, Corey
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340590 tn?1290952141
i am so glad to see your update.  AND you sound so much better.  of course, you could have just taken my advice it was FREE...LOLOLOL...you know i love ya.
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OK Yall...Loved,Loved,Loved this doctor...He is amazing!  No Sub for me...First I saw the nurse who evaluated me and got all my information.  She was confused as to why the counselor would send me there for sub because I was not in withdrawls and my habit was small..and my urine was clean.  She kept asking my husband and I is there anything else that I should know...she kept saying this is it?  You are here for a 35mg a day habit?  Anyway after that I saw the doctor...He asked me many questions...He spent an hour and fifteen minutes with us. He asked me about my background and how I started taking pain meds...I told him that I feel in love from the first one that I ever took. He asked me  if i was buying my pills off of the street, and i told him that I doctor shopped and got them from friends.  he said that is usually how it starts.  He said that he has to very careful who he prescribes them to, because he said you never know who is going to be addicted after that first pill.  He said that three in ten people who get their first perscription from a doctor become addicted to them. Gosh there were so many details that he went into as far as how the brain and neurotransmitors function while on them and then when comming off of them.  He said that sub was a very personal choice and he did not want me to make a decision today, in fact he said he wants me to wait until he sees me again in two weeks.  He said the only way that he would put me on sub is if there is no way that I can quit and that would be after going to aa or na meetings.  He said that is a must for me!  I asked him if we was to put me on sub, what mg would he start me at and he said 4mg once a day.  I kept asking him questions about the sub and he answerd them, then he said lets not even talk about the sub anymore right now.  He wanted to talk about depression.  He thinks that is why I self medicate and he sees it everyday he said it is so common.  He said that he has attorneys, judges, football players, college kids(mostly oxycotin), mothers, nurses, he said I would be amazed at the people who are on sub.  He has one patient who was shooting I think he said 4 bags of herion a day when she first came to him.  He said you would not believe the difference in her then and now.  He put her on sub, then she got a job, got her kids back, and is going to college to be a nurse....she was on the street when she came to him..He said sub does have its place for people like her and others, and it can change there life dramatically.  He also said that you do have withdrawls from sub and you have to be medically supervised while comming off of it.  Sorry I am all over the place here...I am just excited...Anyway the outcome is that he put me on an antideprassant and wants me to go to meetings and try it like that and he will see me back in 2 weeks.  He did say that if something happens from now and two weeks, if I relapse and need him to call and he would meet with me anytime.  He said he would think things differently if I was taking 30 pills a day and jumping out of windows to get my pills.  I told him that i have not jumped out of windows latley...lol  Sorry about all of the "He Saids".  I also want to thank all of yall for being here for me and supporting me, I love each and every one of you and I could not of made it this far without everyones help.  I will never leave med help, it is wonderful!  Another thing....my poor hubby...I feel so sorry for him.  I have put him through hell and he is so drained...I can see it on his face.  And on more thing this doctor is an Internal Medicine doctor, what does that mean?
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what happened? waiting for a report!
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WOW..I could not read through all the post..Look how many people here love and care about you...you are one of the sweetest girls i have ever met...I can't beleive a doctor would consider doing this to anyone, with that amount of DOC you take, or with the clean days you have...This makes me soooo mad...Listen, you already know that you need some kind of aftercare, some kind of counsouling with hubby, support from family...PLEASE try that , before sub....I hope you don't go to this appt...But i know the choice has to be yours..I am here whenever you need...
hugs my friend
r2r
sorry i have not been around, just have been so busy....PM me anytime!!
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to wanttobefree from mtgoat911 who is free, ofcoarse i am on here to talk people into not taking drugs, that is my primary purpose here on this addictions forum
"""""Just as many on here are trying to talk her "out of" taking them, true that she may be swayed into trying it.""""

"""I am dedicated to my recovery and go to 2 meetings a week, and an aftercare once a week.  THATs where the true healing takes place.  The sub allows me to do it with a clear mind."""
ummmmmm????????a brain on opiates is a brain on opiates

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