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What am I taking and how do I get off?

I have read other peoples questions on the forum and think this is the place I should be.  I am taking 3-4 little blue pills with 30 marked on them and told that they were hydrocodone.  I want to get off of them because they are costing me a fortune.  I'm afraid to go to a doctor or a pain clinic for fear of authorities finding out about my problem.  I am trying cold turkey (c/t) but have zero energy and my whole body hurts.  Even my bones.  I had to take a 1/2 just to pick up my wife from work.  My question is can this be done without any physical harm?  Do I just tough it out?  And how long before I start felling normal?  You know, going back to work?
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I've been taking pain killers for 2 years now. I'm now at my all time peek where I am taking 20-25 Norco's per day.  I'm having back surgery in February, but I'll be needing help to get off of these damn things.  Any advice?
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i like what you said coming from a bipolar, PTSD and all around 'out there' fellow that's why i stress how we can share but solutions are as different as there are people...j
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this seems a great little forum offering scads of help..i've been doing Vicodin/Norco for about 5 or 6 less than 40mgs per day..also, in that time, off and on, various ones e.g. flexeril, valium, lyrica, artane, zanaflex, baclofen (almost like a great cocaine with no side effects for me)..i think i'll come back here to check this out..i just want to say a few things and beat it because i'm as much addicted to this writing, one of my main manias, as i am to 'drugs'..but, i want to say a few (oh, i'm an alcoholic with over a billion heart beats without that junk) general, perhaps trite knit picky, things..i gather this site applies mainly to 'addicts' (doing something repeatedly because i want to want to over and over again to the exclusion of wholeness)...'LESS IS MORE' when it comes to drugs..it hit me this morning as i wrote in my journal...my cycle: about waking up time, 'jonesing' or 'mini-jonesing' then 'relief of Norco'...'jonesing-relief of Norco-jonesing-relief of Norco-jonesing relief of Norco'...ok what if my cycle went like this: 'jonesing-relief of Norco-complete or drastic withdrawal' (drastic withdrawal may not be possible with many if not most but it is with some and it's better than 'MORE"...LESS is MORE (better)...so 'jonesing-relief of Norco-drastic or complete withdrawal'...whelp, 'jonesing-relief of Norco-drastic or complete withdrawal' would amount to 'jonesing-relief on 'no Norco'...instead of 'relief of Norco' i'd be 'on' 'relief of no Norco' plus i'd no longer have a 'jonesing feeling'...so, it makes nothing but logical and intuitive sense to lessen or stop drugs...each person is different...for each person there's a different way...i quit cigarettes cold turkey because i has all the weed in the world 20 years ago when i did it, had the competition of a maco neighbor who quit Lucky Strikes cold turkey, ihad vanity...if cigarettes were doing to a person's face what they were doing to their lungs almost no one would smoke..nictotine kills more people than all the drugs (including alcohol) + all the suicides, murders and auto accidents combined and cigs are damn hard to stop and probably the most pernicious , even though less dramatic , of all 'substances' / addictions...anyhoo, for me , there's no such thing as 'clean'...no way...the worst addiction i know of which kicks off acutal chemicals altering the entire system for the worst causing great damage and is rewarded highly is 'judgementalness'...for me, it's extremely important not to judge myself, not to feel guilty about what i'm doing, not to fault myself...if i feel guilty about doing something or engaging in any 'bring me downer' behavior i will continue to be involved in that behavior or pick it up later...guilt creates doing what i feel guilty about...therefore it's necessary to start each day with a 'blank check of forgiveness' not promising anything...when i stop promising and stop feeling guilty about it then i lessen, stop doing it...otherwise the vicious cycle keeps going...if i keep 'less is more' in mind...if i keep 'there's nothing wrong with me' in mind i slowly slip away at my 'diseases'...there's nothing wrong with me...i have a billion idiosynracies, defects, insanities but that doesn't mean there's anything 'wrong' with me...having a defect or 'bad habit' doesn't make for a wrong person...wrong is a value judgement which results, eventually, in going back to hurting myself or bringing myself down...on the Mayo Clinic site it says "you can be addicted without being dependent (which i wish they'd explained and anyone have any ideas on exactly what they mean...i kinda get it?) and you can be dependent without being addicted (which i fully understand)...most who take vicodin never get 'addicted just like most old people don't go to nursing homes even though it 'seems' like they do...i can look at my Norco addiction kinda like being married or in a relationship with another person...i need you because i love you is mature and not addiction...i love you because i need you is addiction...same applies to 'pain killers'...do i love her (Norco) because i need Norco (addiction) or do i 'need her' (Norco) because i love her (mature love / dependency and wholesome)...i must and each person must decide that themselves through experimentation ... i do know i must 'do something different for a change' if i want to change...i will never change if i keep doing the same thing...that's enough for now..perhaps i'll come back to share more personal stuff...i do think this is an incredible site but i stress how different each person is so no one way is best for another...for one 'cold turkey' may be best and for another absolutely 'nuts' if not dangerous and the other way around...and especially as one ages the same 'rules' don't apply...again, what a wonderful site where you guys can help each other this way...peace love joy and play, eh ... johnny
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this seems a great little forum offering scads of help..i've been doing Vicodin/Norco for about 5 or 6 less than 40mgs per day..also, in that time, off and on, various ones e.g. flexeril, valium, lyrica, artane, zanaflex, baclofen (almost like a great cocaine with no side effects for me)..i think i'll come back here to check this out..i just want to say a few things and beat it because i'm as much addicted to this writing, one of my main manias, as i am to 'drugs'..but, i want to say a few (oh, i'm an alcoholic with over a billion heart beats without that junk) general, perhaps trite knit picky, things..i gather this site applies mainly to 'addicts' (doing something repeatedly because i want to want to over and over again to the exclusion of wholeness)...'LESS IS MORE' when it comes to drugs..it hit me this morning as i wrote in my journal...my cycle: about waking up time, 'jonesing' or 'mini-jonesing' then 'relief of Norco'...'jonesing-relief of Norco-jonesing-relief of Norco-jonesing relief of Norco'...ok what if my cycle went like this: 'jonesing-relief of Norco-complete or drastic withdrawal' (drastic withdrawal may not be possible with many if not most but it is with some and it's better than 'MORE"...LESS is MORE (better)...so 'jonesing-relief of Norco-drastic or complete withdrawal'...whelp, 'jonesing-relief of Norco-drastic or complete withdrawal' would amount to 'jonesing-relief on 'no Norco'...instead of 'relief of Norco' i'd be 'on' 'relief of no Norco' plus i'd no longer have a 'jonesing feeling'...so, it makes nothing but logical and intuitive sense to lessen or stop drugs...each person is different...for each person there's a different way...i quit cigarettes cold turkey because i has all the weed in the world 20 years ago when i did it, had the competition of a maco neighbor who quit Lucky Strikes cold turkey, ihad vanity...if cigarettes were doing to a person's face what they were doing to their lungs almost no one would smoke..nictotine kills more people than all the drugs (including alcohol) + all the suicides, murders and auto accidents combined and cigs are damn hard to stop and probably the most pernicious , even though less dramatic , of all 'substances' / addictions...anyhoo, for me , there's no such thing as 'clean'...no way...the worst addiction i know of which kicks off acutal chemicals altering the entire system for the worst causing great damage and is rewarded highly is 'judgementalness'...for me, it's extremely important not to judge myself, not to feel guilty about what i'm doing, not to fault myself...if i feel guilty about doing something or engaging in any 'bring me downer' behavior i will continue to be involved in that behavior or pick it up later...guilt creates doing what i feel guilty about...therefore it's necessary to start each day with a 'blank check of forgiveness' not promising anything...when i stop promising and stop feeling guilty about it then i lessen, stop doing it...otherwise the vicious cycle keeps going...if i keep 'less is more' in mind...if i keep 'there's nothing wrong with me' in mind i slowly slip away at my 'diseases'...there's nothing wrong with me...i have a billion idiosynracies, defects, insanities but that doesn't mean there's anything 'wrong' with me...having a defect or 'bad habit' doesn't make for a wrong person...wrong is a value judgement which results, eventually, in going back to hurting myself or bringing myself down...on the Mayo Clinic site it says "you can be addicted without being dependent (which i wish they'd explained and anyone have any ideas on exactly what they mean...i kinda get it?) and you can be dependent without being addicted (which i fully understand)...most who take vicodin never get 'addicted just like most old people don't go to nursing homes even though it 'seems' like they do...i can look at my Norco addiction kinda like being married or in a relationship with another person...i need you because i love you is mature and not addiction...i love you because i need you is addiction...same applies to 'pain killers'...do i love her (Norco) because i need Norco (addiction) or do i 'need her' (Norco) because i love her (mature love / dependency and wholesome)...i must and each person must decide that themselves through experimentation ... i do know i must 'do something different for a change' if i want to change...i will never change if i keep doing the same thing...that's enough for now..perhaps i'll come back to share more personal stuff...i do think this is an incredible site but i stress how different each person is so no one way is best for another...for one 'cold turkey' may be best and for another absolutely 'nuts' if not dangerous and the other way around...and especially as one ages the same 'rules' don't apply...again, what a wonderful site where you guys can help each other this way...peace love joy and play, eh ... johnny
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I have been taking percocets daily about 3weeks out of each month since December, 2006 and I am really having problems getting off, I have been taking Endocets 10-650 and when I do not have those I will take anything that will calm down the withdrawal intense.  I want to cold turkey but every time I try I can't.  My addictin is more mental than physical.  I work 8 hours a day and am fine at work but as soon as I go home I need a pill.  I think it's because my body or my mind knows it is time to take the pill.  I have tried and tried and tried and have also went to my doctor who prescribed me clonidine and buspiron, I did not take the buspirone and the clonidine made me very sleepy that I thought I was in a coma so I am scared to take that on a daily base.  Can someone please help give me advice? Should I continue on the clonidine?  I also heard of a drug called suboxone that you can take and have no withdrawals, any advice is appreciated, Thanks
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"Tapering you will find is not an easy thing to do.......
95% of addicts cannot taper.......addicts take pills that is what addicts do......"...

Can you point me to your point of reference for this inflammatory so-called insight as to the percentage of addicts who cannot taper?  I would like to see the source if that's okay with you.

To everyone else:
Hi, I'm new to this board and am trying to feel around for the open mindedness of the group; so far, with maybe one exception, everyone seems very helpful.  I hope I can be of assistance as well with my experience including depression/possibly bipolar, for which I began self medicating as a teen and continued to do so during my four years at Florida State (yes, I did graduate ;).

I tripped walking down iron fire escape stairs at a party, and I wound up at the ER with a broken tailbone, for which the ER doctor gave me Flexeril and Darvocet N-100 and a referall to the orthopedic specialist who took care of the FSU football team (go 'Noles!).  From there I had an MRI in addition to the hospital Xrays.

The result was comical until I realized that it wasn't meant to be a joke.  The Orthopedic surgeon held up what looked like two slides of two different backs,  one on the left and another on the right.  He discovered that in addition to the broken tailbone, my lower back and upper shoulder problems I  admitted to having, causing my legs to go numb in class and sleep problems and the like, were due to birth defects that couldn't have possiblly come from the falling incident.  Scoliosis, slight Spinal Abifida (which would require fusions) and many more abnormalities and misalignments.   He then told me to check into a nursing home following my upcoming graduation.  He was half joking.

I have gotten way off track, and I apologize for going so off-track.

My background, education-wise and career-wise have been stictly in Mental Health, Addiction and Pain Mgmt.

I have a question for anyone who share (or disagree with) my theory about self-medicating to 'feel normal' and 'drug addicts.'  Neither category is 'better' than the other; however, I feel that if we don't address this and we continue to label everyone an 'addict,' treating them the same way medically and pragmatically (i.e. A.A.metings/N.A. meetings for the latter group?  I think it's a bad idea and tends to make a person with, say, bi-polar disorder, shy away from telling family, friends and even healthcare professionals due to the immediate  labeling and subsequent 'treatment'  which is perhaps the wrong course of action for these types.

It's just a thought, and I should have posted it elsewhere, but I thought it was relevant to the O.P.

And for the record, I too tried to taper from Methadone using the little blue thirty mg pills (which are absolutely Roxy/generic Oxy, in case the OP had any doubt now :)

I will post my own list of what I'm taking and how I have tapered over the years, which is another point relating to the first sentence I quoted from beachtowel slash head in the sand , considering the fact that I NEVER escalated my medication, but rather cut down signiificantly and continue to do so.

Peace,
Shay
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Hey, I think all of the bickering back and forth is getting ridiculous. Most of us on here are looking for ways to fight our addiction, for ourselves and for our families.. Not come on here and listen to you guys 'have at it' with each other. So, why doesn't everyone start to worry about the real things that matter, instead of finding someone to point the finger at, just because you don't like what someone says. .It is a free country. Calm Down! Seriously people, grow up!
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i don't know if it's to late and your done going through w/d, but me and my husband are going through the same thing. We have both been taking approx 6-8 roxi's daily if not more for 3yrs now. And before that we were taking percocets, vicoden, anything we could get our hands on. This pass Thurs night at 6pm was our last pill that we have taken. Yes we were/ are in a lot of pain. I do have some tips that will help you get through it.
1. Take some sort of muscle relaxer (valium, klonopin) it will help with the muscle twitching and spasms.
2. We have been taking anti- nausa meds for our upset stomach, and imodium ( both meds are over the counter.)
3. Taking a lot of hot showers. We are having trouble sitting still, it also helps with muscle spasmsand  it helps us feel better cuz we can't stop sweating.  
4. Ambien or any other rx sleeping meds. we can not sleep through this process without a sleeping aid.
5. It REALLY HELPS if you have someone who is going through the same thing with you. So you can help each other from giving up or giving in. If it wasn't for my husband I could never do this.

My last bit of advice to anyone is that I know A LOT of people who were addicted to pain meds and went on suboxones( i think i spelled it wrong) rx that is prescribed by a dr for w/d from pain meds just causes you to get addicted to them. then when you run out of the SUB you then have to find pain meds to get through the w/d. So pretty much everyone I know who has taken the SUB rx has been addicted for approx 1-2 yrs and still takes pain meds every month. And they are not abusing the rx they are taking it as prescribed.
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your attitude of quick judgement without knowing the facts is the reason i don't come in here any more.  just thought i would try it tonight to see if it had changed, but i'm going back to the other site where people actually care about and support one another.  too bad, cause most of the people in here are nice, but we don't need to be ripped when we are suffering and looking for help.

Lucy
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first of all i want to tell you that you have posted to an older thread, you should repost your question with new thread, bottom of this page, blue button says go back to forum....second of all your husband is addicted, and it sounds like he is in deep if he is snorting them and drinking...he needs to stop, wether it be cold turkey which means he will be sick or to taper off slowly which he probably cant do because he is an addict.  him telling you that he is allowed to do these because they are prescribed is him telling himself its okay to be addicted because the doctor said so, which is what all addicts say when they are in denial, my next question is   are you sure he is snorting his roxis and not coke again? i mean i am addicted to percocets also and they gave me energy..but not the type of hyper irrational energy you are describing, just make sure he isnt back into the coke...maybe trading his roxis (because they are in high demand for opiate addicts) for coke?   ask him if he thinks the doctor would think its okay that he snort his roxis...and yes he will get worse...i may be wrong when i say this but i bet he is alot worse than you even know...and he wont stop until he wants to or he has hit rock bottom...sorry to say...also he will say anything, do anything to keep his drug of choice at all costs...and he will bring you down with him if you tolerate it..addicts are the most selfish people on this earth, but it is not the man you married, he has gone away for a while now he is just an addict living the life of an addict... i am no expert, but i am an addict and i am also married to one...so i see both sides...if you love him and want to help him,first he needs to stop the denial, nothing can happen until he is honest with himself and friends and family and realize he is in trouble...how long has he been taking the roxis?  does he buy them illegally off the street if he runs out? are there times where he says he is sick with the flu and cant function?  does he kind of nod (sleep) in and out of consiousness when its time to sit and relax? is he extremely moodie, angry when he has no drugs?     these are all signs of addiction..does he work and call in sick to work often?   and there isnt much you can do to help him until he realizes his addiction is real and affecting others around him. if he is willing to admit his addiction and become completely honest with himself and you...then there are a few options...but nothing until he is not in denial...repost your question, there are alot of very caring knowledgable people here that can help you...probably better than me, i am still fairly new to this forum also.   i hope you get the help you need...peace&love
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My husband broke his neck and had surgery cervical laminoplasi (i cant spell) well anyways he has been going to pain management and getting 120 roxis a month and he tells me he is not addicted but lately he doesnt come home  after work and when he is home he is so wired - running all over the place I am affraid he will over do it and hurt himself more. Well I just found out he is snorting the roxi and drinking very heavily and does it around my babies - he says he is aloud to do this drug because it is perscribed - but I dont think he should be snorting them and drinking. I am a little scared being around him with my kids because he is very much on edge and freaks out, and breaks things. Did I mention he used to have a cocaine addition inwhich he stoped over 5 years ago!  What can I do to help him? Will he get worse - we have lost a friend this year because of the roxi and I dont want him to be next! Help me help him!
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Everyone is different when it comes to withdrawl. I have failed to detox from Oxy,
due to the fact that I was detoxing from Methadone at the same time. I didn't
know it at the time,but by taking the Oxy while completely stopping the Methadone
for 5 weeks,just prolonged the Methadone detox completely. I had a very hard time
just finding that info out,but I was already back on the meds and not looking forward
to that type of nightmare anytime soon. Since you will just be detoxing off of a pretty
high dose of Oxy,you will fair better than I. You should be able to pull it off,with the
excellent info from the last few posts. Just remember that skipping any of the steps
in the proceedure,will cost you. Good Luck and I'll be hanging in to hear from your
progress.
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Here's some general information I post for people in this situation. I can't express enough how much clonidine helps. You may want to look into professional treatment if possible. You've been taking some heavy stuff. A taper, if you can do it, would also be advisable...

This is a work in progress...something I've been working on off and on for the last couple of weeks. It's not considered complete, but has lots of info from lots of sources. If any of the "old timers" have anything to add, let me know and I'll add it to the document. I hope to use this to post a general "how to" every couple of days or so.

Listed below are suggestions for detoxing and quitting an opiate addiction. They are just suggestions compiled from the detox plans of people that have gone through cold turkey detox before. They are just that, suggestions, and any detox plan is best when done under a doctor's care. Consult your doctor before trying any of the suggestions below.
This is prewritten for anyone who is beginning, or planning on beginning, a cold turkey withdrawal to opiates. This includes drugs such as tramadol (Ultracet and Ultram) codeine (Tylenol #3, #4), Darvocet, Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Norco, Lortab and derivatives),  Oxycodone (Endocet, Percocet, Oxycontin), Morphine, Demerol. Fentanyl, and Dilaudud. There are many other opiates not listed, so if you don’t see it listed, you can still use these suggestions if it’s an opiate based addiction. None of these apply to benzodiazepine based addictions. These addictions should never be dealt with by going cold turkey. Always consult a doctor for a detox plan for benzos.

First of all, opiate withdrawals are uncomfortable, but rarely life threatening. You may think you’re going to die, but most of the withdrawal symptoms are just very uncomfortable. If possible, take some time off work or schedule a week or so in order to fully detox. You will honestly not feel like doing much anyway. Opiate withdrawal symptoms usually start 12-24 hours after your last dose. But, the timing of withdrawal symptoms depends upon the drug taken, length of time you’ve been taking it, and how you react to medications. The physical withdrawals usually last 3-7 days, with days 3 and 4 being the worst. Once again, this is all dependent on the person. You can expect these symptoms. Dilated pupils, diarrhea, runny nose, goose bumps, abdominal pain, stomach cramps, sweating, agitation, anxiety, nausea, vomiting, leg cramps, general aches and pains, and sleeplessness. This list is not absolute. You may experience all of these symptoms, only some of them, or other symptoms. Again, we are all different. Below is the famous Thomas Recipe. It gives some general information along with supplements that help with the withdrawal symptoms. The only thing I would add to this list is a blood pressure drug named clonidine. It effectively lowers the blood pressure and lessens many of the withdrawal symptoms. Most any doctor will prescribe it if you’re honest as to why you need it. Discuss dosages and frequency with your doctor.

Thomas Recipe:

1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).

How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5. During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it. At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help. With breakfast, take the mineral supplement. As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
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How long does the withdrawls last?  Will I ever get my energy back?  Have you done this before sucessfully.  Is there anyone who can answer me?  Give me some hope.  When can I get back to work?  Pray for me!  
Thanks
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You are definaetly addicted to 30mg of Roxicodone. I know,I've been taking hundreds of mg
per day of the green or blue ones. They are pretty small,but super strong. The green's are 15mg.
I know what you mean about needing them to get you up in the morning and through the day,
beleive me. Roxi's are just strictly Oxycodone. Percocets have the Tylenol mix,which helps
my pain much better,but wipes out your liver faster,from what I read. The withdrawls are wicked,
I won't lie to ya. Try the taper method over a very long time first,before you go C/T. I almost slit
my throat going C/T on this heavy med. Good Luck and God Bless you.
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Sorry it took so long to answer you.  She told me they were hydrocodone and not oxycotin.  That they were like buying 3 percocets.  Since it was cheaper to buy, we went with that, chipping them up.

I have another question.  I spent the last week trying to ween off of these.  I am down to 1 1/2 a day.  This is the first day again of C/T and it seems to be better than last time, but still hurts.  My question is; Does weening off help with the withdrawl symptoms?  If I get down to 1/2 a day, would it be easier to stop?  Or are the W/D Symp. going to hurt no matter what and just get it over with.  It is 3pm and I haven't taken anything.  Last week at this time I had 2 1/2's in me.

Anyone who might know the answer, feel free to answer.  

I get the impression that, you beachtowel, don't understand why I didn't know they were oxicotins.  And can't understand that someone would take something they don't know what it is.  Sorry!
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May I ask you a question when your wife gave you the ???? pills what did she tell you they were?
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Thanks for you info.  That makes perfect sence to me.  It pretty much matches up with what I've been told in the past.  Thanks.  I still can't believe it got this far so fast.  I am going to go today without until I can't stand it.  If I make it I will call in sick to work and continue c/t see if I can do it.  
Thanks for your help!
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Well, it's wed. morning and I can't sleep.  The fever has taken control of me and wants to pill up.  I made it through yesterday on 2.  I took 1/2 at noon and then 1/2 at 3pm.  Then I just was sick of feeling like **** so I did a whole at 6pm.  By 11pm I drank a dose of nyquil and was able to sleep until 7am.  And now I'm here.

The real reason I'm stupid on what I've been taking is because I get them from my wife.  She has been taking drugs for years and I didn't find out until a couple of years ago how much and how long she had been taken.  By that time, she would get me percocets and the football shaped pills for my back pain and from there it escallated.  Trying to save money, we thought it was cheaper to get the blue pills and cut them up.  But it didn't work that way.  Since 1 roxy was worth 3 percocets, then we could save about $20 bucks.  Little did I know we were building up tolerance and ordering more.  Now I'm buzzing through my savings account at record speed and it has to stop.  My wife gets mad at me for trying to stop, but I know that it's the junkie in her speaking and not what she really wants to do.  I just figure that I will do it first.  I just hate having to wait until next week.  I wonder how bad this will get if I start today.  I wish I had something to make me sleep through it all.  Or that rapid detox sounds pretty good too.

I know, beachtowel, that you can't believe a person taking such a high dose of pain killers couldn't possibly know what he was doing, but it happened so fast.  My wife would bring them home and I didn't ask to many questions.  I hope you now understand.

Anyway,  Thanks for your support.  Steve
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Roxicodone or street name Roxy's...

30 mg is one of the higher doses.............

FLaddict blew it telling you what you were taking even though I had my doubts that your were not being honest.........
Addicts are very smart when it comes to pain pills........
I found your post a little unbelievable that you didn't have a clue what you were taking per my posts..........
Your taking big league pain killers Roxys are expensive on the streets.......
The stronger more potent pain killers have a bad side with W/Ds

May I ask how long it has been since your last use?
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Oxycodone and hydrocodone are very similar, oxy is a bit stronger. Oxycodone is the main ingredient in many pain killers like percocet, while hydrocodone is the main ingredient in slightly weaker vicadin. However percocets are a combination of acetaminophen (tylenol) and oxycodone and usually come in dosages from the most common 3.25/500 (3.25 milligrams of oxycodone, 500 milligrams of tylenol) to 10/ 750. Your pills are different only in the way that they do not contain any tylenol. If you are taking 3 (40 mg's) a day that comes out to 120 mg's total, which is not a small amount, however compared to some of the people on this forum it is not a huge amount either. As well a year is certainly long enough to form a dependancy, but BY NO MEANS is it past the point of no return. If anything it is very lucky that you caught your addiction at this time, as it could only have gotten worse... much much worse. Weening off is a great idea, but please do not get angry with yourself if it does not work the first time. If I could give you any advice it would be that quitting drugs is not a one stop shop, it takes a lot of work, and sometimes you make mistakes. Relapse is a part of recovery so don't beat yourself up if your first try doesnt work. Just keep at it Hydrocook, if anything your family should not be a reason why you cannot quit, but rather should be the reason why you do quit. When you are clean you will feel sooo much better. Good luck my friend, if you have any questions lemme know!

Michael
Day 4 (haha sorry FLaddict, I stole your format, I like it though, geeez)
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You can steal it all you want sweetie.... Great job on your four days.. Stay in the fight..
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Do a pill id search by identification or appearance on drugs. com  that will tell you for sure.. I know those though... I had a love affair with them awhile back.. They are strong suckers...
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Thank you for your info also.  I was led to believe that these pills were not as strong as oxycontin.  They were hydrocodone without the asprin and 3x's as strong.  So one pill was equivelant to 3 reg. tabs of hydrocodone.  My useage escalated over a period of about 1 year.  Now I know it's out of control.  Thank you for your info.  Wish me luck!
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