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Withdrawal help please
I have been taking hydrocodone for chronic pain for as long as 10 yrs. For the last 4 months I have been taking as many as 10 10 mg norco for pain from a botched surgery. Ran out 4 days ago because of holidays. It's been plain awful! I'm at 48 hrs with 2 hrs of sleep. Restless agitation, like restless leg, and vomiting began about 2 hrs ago. If I am truly getting through the worst, I'll keep going. But, one site said 1-2 months. I know I don't have the strength to do that. I see the doc tomorrow and he'll give me a script for another 100 for 10 days. I was thinking that I'd try to gradually wean myself. Already did that with fentenyl patches.
Please advise me. If it will begin getting better within a couple of days, I can do that. If it will take 2 months, I know I'll fold.
Thanks to any who can answer.
Please advise me. If it will begin getting better within a couple of days, I can do that. If it will take 2 months, I know I'll fold.
Thanks to any who can answer.
No, the rehab was therapy for hand. I did pend considerablE efforT trying to find a therapist to no avail. I looked NA meeting and there were very few nearby. My job is such that having my ability questioned if I'm recognized at one of these meeting that I would be out of work.
I'll try more therapists tomorrow. These nights have been so very hard. I also worry that the continued lack of sleep could trigger a depressive episode for me-another drug that I stopped taking
I'll try more therapists tomorrow. These nights have been so very hard. I also worry that the continued lack of sleep could trigger a depressive episode for me-another drug that I stopped taking
You went to outpatient rehab? That's great! How did it go for you?
I'm sorry that half a pill is tempting you after making it 11 days! 11 days is so amazing. Tell that pill to go F itself!
I'm sorry that half a pill is tempting you after making it 11 days! 11 days is so amazing. Tell that pill to go F itself!
Restless agitation is back. RLS had been getting better and better but it's back. Not sure why. I'm trying to make it through but I can't stand the sitting, jumping up to pace, and on and on. If I can't get this to ease I'm taking a half tablet. I'm sorry I've finally ready to cave.
It's 12 hrs later than when I woke up with my toe stuck in an electric socket. Went to rehab. It hurt but still no pill. Guess I'll head on in to Day 12 in a bit.
Welcome to day 11!!!! Hope you are doing OK and 11 days is awesome! I can tell you that Im 28 days in and still feel nauseous and heartburn most days! It comes and goes throughout the day but it really S***S! I just keep hanging on and know that it will pass!!!! It will be so nice one day not to feel it anymore!!!! Hope you have a good day today and that the pain and anxiety is less for you!!! Keep hanging on!!! We are all routing for you!!!!
Hey tree...how ya doin? I am on day 5 and I slept okay on day 4 and now up on day 5. Kind of discouraging thinking you passed one thing and it comes back up. I have been clean before so I know how much better it is on the other side. I have 5 small kids and today is my oldest sons birthday. He is 6. I just keep thinking that it is so worth it to not be on those pills. If they were so great then people would keep on them and not even think of getting off. there is always another way to manage the pain. The pills are just the easy way. The other ways take time and sadly sometimes a little more money but worth it in the long run. I am ready to be where you are!! So many days under your belt!! Great job!!!!
Last night I thought getting to the therapist asap Monday would help. Doing this over the holidays when all help is out, home with families was a really stupid idea!
That all takes too long!! I'm taking supplements! I'm taking hot baths! This is god awful! I'm humming!!! And now my stomach is burning from the booze. This is just great! Oh god! I feel like z guitar string ANC I'm burping stomach acid! Lovely. Couldn't get better could it?
I have read on here for RLS people say to wrap up you legs really tight. And that potassium really really helps. Bananas galore!
Been up and down for an hour. Still humming. This is new. Maybe a change in RLS. I can't stand this! Omg!
Tree! That's the thing about detox, symptoms feel like they are over, then something else hits you like a ton of brinks.
I promise you, day 11, it only gets better from here. Not like you'll wake up tomorrow and feel like a million, but the symptoms will be shorter and fewer. Sleep is the very last thing to come back. I wish I could write a huge banner that says: We abused our bodies for 5, 10, 20 years, every day, we have to give it weeks, then months to regulate.
Exhale, day 11 is awesome. I remember swigging vodka at the worst part of my detox, and I just felt hazy but still in pain. It was horrible. And you want the toxins to go out, not come back in! Take advil get caps (they work faster) and go in a HOT tub or shower or both.
I promise you, day 11, it only gets better from here. Not like you'll wake up tomorrow and feel like a million, but the symptoms will be shorter and fewer. Sleep is the very last thing to come back. I wish I could write a huge banner that says: We abused our bodies for 5, 10, 20 years, every day, we have to give it weeks, then months to regulate.
Exhale, day 11 is awesome. I remember swigging vodka at the worst part of my detox, and I just felt hazy but still in pain. It was horrible. And you want the toxins to go out, not come back in! Take advil get caps (they work faster) and go in a HOT tub or shower or both.
Help! Just woke up. 2 1/2 hrs into Day 11 and my whole body is humming like a taut wire. How can I stop this? This is crazy-I hate this feeling. Went into the kitchen and took a couple swigs of booze and I'm not a drinker but this one's got to stop. Please help me!
Might take one in am. I have to begin hand rehab therapy at 10:30. That really hurts! I just don't understand why this hand is so painful. 5 other hand surgeries and no such pain. Makes me worry that the MRSA is still there. Scary ****, that!
Congrats on your progress and I'm so happy you are doing positive things like yoga with your spouse. It is wonderful to see.
Last night was a bit rough but am 9 hours into Day 10. WooHoo! Still feeling good. Time to wake the spouse and do yoga. Treadmill later. Too wet to go out!!!
I mentioned on a different diary that I am bipolar. Don't take anything for it, just try not to make decisions when in either extreme state. I'm really hoping that today's optimism isn't just a flip into manic for me. I have been substituting sugar (which actually gives me a better high than the pills. I'm not sure what they do.) so I fear that when the night gets long or if I sleep, when I wake up, and the good feelings have been replaced by melancholy and I start want a pill again that I will be devastated and slip. I work in litigation as an expert so I do have to try to keep this quiet, thus no meetings. But I have found a pain psychologist and will call first thing Monday. I am so grateful for everyone's concern. Thanks--joy
Hi
I am a bit confused that you are at a fine line between Addiction and/or Dependent. All I can say to you is that I started using at the age 14 recreational off & on. Could walk away from it all when I got tired of it. In my later 40s is when I got my first opiate-hydro/oxys and I was OK for awhile. Then as yrs went by all I know is that I was playing the game to get Methadone prescribed for pain. Then I had enough and was doing a taper. Ha! That did not work. As long as the pills were hid I could sniff them out like a dog and find them. Then before I knew it I was down to 30mg on the Dones adding street brought Adderral. (do not have ADHD). Those 2 mixed were like my crank days in the later 70s. I was taking a Benzo at night to come down. This all happen in almost 20yrs and then one day I woke up and I was 56yrs old..This was back in 2012 when I went c/t from all 3...NOW as a Addict I can have NONE and I mean NO PILLS around nor can I be around my friends who get these prescribed too..We have a Pleasure part of the brain (survival) and this is the part that always remembers the pleasure on whatever we liked. It is the part that water, sex, air, nothing matters but seeking that drug. We live to use and use to live. All mind altering substance highly affect the brain chems, hormones, transmitters and so..This is what takes so long to balance back after the physical part.
I am very afraid of you having those around..This has nothing to do with willpower right now. This is a serious disease and like any disease you need to seek support or help. I have to agree with gnarly about those meetings. After I lost both my parents and my dog and other friends all when I just hit my 18 month I backed off a bit but tried other things. Then a couple of months ago I had Heart Procedure. I was mad and sad but know now that NOTHING is going to help my cravings and triggers unless I get help by other Addicts.
I am very, very proud of you and how far you have come, BUT having them around is not a good idea.
Also if you do stay away from the caffeine & sugars and simple carbs and things that where mentioned above this should help. You need the room to be cool and turn off all light including the blinking ones off the radios and so on. If the TV is on it brings up the Happy chems and you need a few hours for it to quite so the sleeping chem which is melatonin that we produce to kick in. Try not to fight sleep..It will come here and there and then one day all you want to do is sleep.
Sorry this is so long but I do not come on so much like I did. I am just very worried about you knowing those pills are here. That means that you have not completely gave in and in the back of your head you have a back up..Most of us told are Drs, Dentist, Family and Friends so there will be no way of getting them to easily. I do care and wish you all the luck in the world but it takes lots of work to stay clean..The detox is the easy part and it is over in no time..Yes it succks but working on staying clean is when it all begins.
Bless
I am a bit confused that you are at a fine line between Addiction and/or Dependent. All I can say to you is that I started using at the age 14 recreational off & on. Could walk away from it all when I got tired of it. In my later 40s is when I got my first opiate-hydro/oxys and I was OK for awhile. Then as yrs went by all I know is that I was playing the game to get Methadone prescribed for pain. Then I had enough and was doing a taper. Ha! That did not work. As long as the pills were hid I could sniff them out like a dog and find them. Then before I knew it I was down to 30mg on the Dones adding street brought Adderral. (do not have ADHD). Those 2 mixed were like my crank days in the later 70s. I was taking a Benzo at night to come down. This all happen in almost 20yrs and then one day I woke up and I was 56yrs old..This was back in 2012 when I went c/t from all 3...NOW as a Addict I can have NONE and I mean NO PILLS around nor can I be around my friends who get these prescribed too..We have a Pleasure part of the brain (survival) and this is the part that always remembers the pleasure on whatever we liked. It is the part that water, sex, air, nothing matters but seeking that drug. We live to use and use to live. All mind altering substance highly affect the brain chems, hormones, transmitters and so..This is what takes so long to balance back after the physical part.
I am very afraid of you having those around..This has nothing to do with willpower right now. This is a serious disease and like any disease you need to seek support or help. I have to agree with gnarly about those meetings. After I lost both my parents and my dog and other friends all when I just hit my 18 month I backed off a bit but tried other things. Then a couple of months ago I had Heart Procedure. I was mad and sad but know now that NOTHING is going to help my cravings and triggers unless I get help by other Addicts.
I am very, very proud of you and how far you have come, BUT having them around is not a good idea.
Also if you do stay away from the caffeine & sugars and simple carbs and things that where mentioned above this should help. You need the room to be cool and turn off all light including the blinking ones off the radios and so on. If the TV is on it brings up the Happy chems and you need a few hours for it to quite so the sleeping chem which is melatonin that we produce to kick in. Try not to fight sleep..It will come here and there and then one day all you want to do is sleep.
Sorry this is so long but I do not come on so much like I did. I am just very worried about you knowing those pills are here. That means that you have not completely gave in and in the back of your head you have a back up..Most of us told are Drs, Dentist, Family and Friends so there will be no way of getting them to easily. I do care and wish you all the luck in the world but it takes lots of work to stay clean..The detox is the easy part and it is over in no time..Yes it succks but working on staying clean is when it all begins.
Bless
Can't do acupuncture, nerves are too hyper. It hurts REAL bad. It sometimes even aggravates problems.
May be awake tonight and that will bum me out but I'm just not going back there.
Got off massive quantities of Tylenol 3 and Valium 30 yrs ago. Probably shouldn't have done CT but did. Had flare ups over the years, would take pills for 3 or 4 days and be off.
Those fentanyl patches were awful! Weaned off of those because I was at such a high level. And they were talking methadone. Definitely not going there.
Been using norco regularly for years 4-6 a day until the hand surgery went bad in August. That's when I went on 10 a day. I have to admit that 2 of them made all the pain go. But I know it will take 3 soon, then 4. Nope not doing that either.
My real concern is for my next hand surgery. That will be March most likely. I'll try not to go beyond a couple of days for the post-surgical. Just pray I don't still harbor MRSA or get it again. Very bad stuff and very painful stuff.
I intend to seek aftercare. Maybe not meetings because of my job. But I will seek care.
I know there's more to wd but think I'll be ok. I'll stick around either way!
May be awake tonight and that will bum me out but I'm just not going back there.
Got off massive quantities of Tylenol 3 and Valium 30 yrs ago. Probably shouldn't have done CT but did. Had flare ups over the years, would take pills for 3 or 4 days and be off.
Those fentanyl patches were awful! Weaned off of those because I was at such a high level. And they were talking methadone. Definitely not going there.
Been using norco regularly for years 4-6 a day until the hand surgery went bad in August. That's when I went on 10 a day. I have to admit that 2 of them made all the pain go. But I know it will take 3 soon, then 4. Nope not doing that either.
My real concern is for my next hand surgery. That will be March most likely. I'll try not to go beyond a couple of days for the post-surgical. Just pray I don't still harbor MRSA or get it again. Very bad stuff and very painful stuff.
I intend to seek aftercare. Maybe not meetings because of my job. But I will seek care.
I know there's more to wd but think I'll be ok. I'll stick around either way!
Just read your post. I've recently came off both fentynal and large amounts of Vicodine, trust me honey, if you could endure the detox off of the patches you can do this part. I got clean with the help of many here 7/12 months ago. After a five year addiction and abuse of both drugs.
Unfortunately there's no easy softer way to do this, but to self Nuture yourself thru this. Throw the F@cking pills away. At this point their just a torture devise. Sounds like the symptoms are subsided alittle as far as having some rest, and wanting to eat. And doing yoga was a great help with the physical pain. Please know this is going to linger awhile, it's different for everyone. I want totally cold turkey, and didn't sleep for 16 days, but I got threw it. It's important to set your mind on done mode. Even entertaining the idea of anything to make this easier is your addiction talking, that's why I suggest you get rid of the pills. The more you can eat, walk exercise, and take baths, the better you will feel, and please know from my experince, the pain you're experinces is real, and will spike after a period of time, then will suddenly drop down. It's a physical reaction in your brain. When I learned that the process was tolerable. I did do accupunture about 7 weeks into my detox which helped with both pain, and cravings, it alters your brain receptures, and has a great calming effect. You're doing great, just stay the course, please ! And once your able to drive, try going to some 12 step meetings, they were huge in wrapping my mind around never having to use again. If you call the hotline for NA/AA someone will even pick you up. I assure you if you can get thru this part, and seek a recovery program just to be around people who are clean, and want to live a clean life. Your life will be amazing. There are people here who know my story and helped me in the early days, weeks and months. Then it was my responciblity to take the next step. And I'll tell Ya , pushing 8 months with no substances now, I feel physically and more so emotionally free like never before. So again, hang in there. Be gentle with yourself, take this in baby steps, each day does get better : ) And before you know it, the worst will be behind you.This I know ! But it's crictical you dump the pills. That will be your second best decision, the first was starting this process. Hope to follow your progress and celebrate each better day to becoming CLEAN !
The gifts are worth it. Promise !
Denise
Unfortunately there's no easy softer way to do this, but to self Nuture yourself thru this. Throw the F@cking pills away. At this point their just a torture devise. Sounds like the symptoms are subsided alittle as far as having some rest, and wanting to eat. And doing yoga was a great help with the physical pain. Please know this is going to linger awhile, it's different for everyone. I want totally cold turkey, and didn't sleep for 16 days, but I got threw it. It's important to set your mind on done mode. Even entertaining the idea of anything to make this easier is your addiction talking, that's why I suggest you get rid of the pills. The more you can eat, walk exercise, and take baths, the better you will feel, and please know from my experince, the pain you're experinces is real, and will spike after a period of time, then will suddenly drop down. It's a physical reaction in your brain. When I learned that the process was tolerable. I did do accupunture about 7 weeks into my detox which helped with both pain, and cravings, it alters your brain receptures, and has a great calming effect. You're doing great, just stay the course, please ! And once your able to drive, try going to some 12 step meetings, they were huge in wrapping my mind around never having to use again. If you call the hotline for NA/AA someone will even pick you up. I assure you if you can get thru this part, and seek a recovery program just to be around people who are clean, and want to live a clean life. Your life will be amazing. There are people here who know my story and helped me in the early days, weeks and months. Then it was my responciblity to take the next step. And I'll tell Ya , pushing 8 months with no substances now, I feel physically and more so emotionally free like never before. So again, hang in there. Be gentle with yourself, take this in baby steps, each day does get better : ) And before you know it, the worst will be behind you.This I know ! But it's crictical you dump the pills. That will be your second best decision, the first was starting this process. Hope to follow your progress and celebrate each better day to becoming CLEAN !
The gifts are worth it. Promise !
Denise
Day 9 all! Put those 2 bad boys back with their friends in the cabinet. Did sparkling and sanding, making chicken and dumplings for dinner. We just Rodney Yee's AM Yoga and I did a squat shaker the wall where I pushed the horrendous curve in my lower back flat against the wall. The ache is gone, temporarily anyway. I'm feeling good. So come on everyone whose at 3 or 4. It's great on this side!
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