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Withdrawel Kit / Open Forum


Howdy all

Hope you all are doing OK (so far as an addict can be). Ive found a lot of inspiration here, THANK YOU.

I know there are several schools or thought on stopping this crazy cycle of addiction: Cold Turkey and Taper. Also some folks recommend taking other drugs to help out the WD symptoms, others dont.

Well, Im slowely creating a "WD Kit," I have a bucketload of Wellbutrin, about 5 klonopines and a few Ativans and am saving them up for the Big Day. Every week I get a few more and am actually surprised I havent taken them just for the buzz. A month ago I would of eaten them as soon as I got them. Guess I want out of this nightmare BAD.. Im also slowly collecting up the Thomas Recipie stuff.

Im currently on Duragesic 100mg patches and plan on switching to oral morphine, tapering over a couple weeks till Im down to about 25 mg morphine/day, then going CT

My question is this: What dosages of these (klonopine etc) are recommended? The _last_ thing I want is to wind up addicted to something else so I figure 5 or 6 days tops taking the other meds.

When tapering Ive heard that you should take as much as makes you comfortable (...riiiiight...) but I doubt that would work for me. I plan on doing this over a couple weeks at most. I should save the Klonopine till after Ive taken my last morphine? Anyone else gone this route?

Thanks for any help.

DM
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How do we get off klonopin.
My seizure doc. said I needed to be hospitlized twice for a month, and that would be to costly.
I have been on this for twenty years of a mental health misdiagnosis. Scychoprhinia that is what they said all it was is severe Post traumatic stress disorder, the seizures were from the medications.
I have been off all off them. except klonopin and clonodine.
6 mg of klonopin a day. it is hell if anyone nows that has an addiction to the stuff, yes I am depended.
But have taken myself of meds before and now I am stuck.
I am down to 4 mg and some days 5 mg. I have withdrawals, and know all the signs when I am in real trouble.
The seizures started again after two concussion in halve a year, but they cannot find anything, since they cannot take me off.
I have to beat this ****. I have not had a seizure for almost two month. ever since I was in seizure observation for eight days.
Personally, I think the seizures are from the klonopin, and stress.
Is there anyway, that we can start a klonopin forum.???????

Klonopin, is the worst anti-anxiety drug and one of the worst benzopines.

How many people do they give this stuff, and what for.???????

I have gone through severe withdrawals before, just because someone stole them.

I never take more then prescribed, because I have on anxiety unless I get off, from the fear of going through withdrawals.
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Just do not get addicted to klonopin it is the worst withdrawals.
Seizures, shills, and you could stop breathing.
They ones wanted to put me through an non mecial, but social treatment.
I was lucky enough aware that this would have killed me.
The person that was admitting me, was fired over it after wards.
Besides the curse, of having other addicts come in your home if you become medical depended on it.
I would love to see a strand on this.
I have been medical depended for 20 yrs on 4mg. and since my seizures started again, on 6mg.
and cutting my self very slowly down.
Only in Hospitals they will take you off this, it is the worst seizure med, and also hard on kidneys.
Any one that has suggestions, please be welcome.
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Hello, It is very nice to come across these stories.  I am on day 20 from Vicodin 10 mgs 5-6 per day for 5 months.  I am so much happier with myself, my marriage and life itself!  I am blessed to not have the desire to use/abuse, but anticipating that fear when and/if it comes. I could not have come this far without stepping out of the closet to tell my family of my addition and for their support... especially through the withdrawals.  I did taper on vicodin to darvocet for 3 days, then my dr gave me some kind of injection, that similates symptoms of sea sickness.  It helped some, but my family and their support was the best help.  Good luck to all of you!
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Congratulations on day 5.I am on day 10 (hydro)It really does get easier,except the mental part takes time.You sound like a strong person .Glad to have you here.This place has really helped me.Oh yeah,Im the tenn fan.I have a lotta fun aggravating the bama fan (bmac).I would worry about being outnumbered but I know that auburn and bama are bigger rivals lol

pixi
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GOD
Ultram, Huh.....

Good to have another one of you guys here on the board. YES, I think Ultram withdrawal is much worse (for those of us who get addicted to it) than those of any "Real" opiate....

I KNOW your pain, pal... I was a 30-50 pill per day user of Ultram in the end... Was the ONLY thing that worked for pain at all. BUT- Obviously I abused it. I think I'd abuse ANY bottle of "Happy pills" so I have to stay away from having too much access!

I'm working on a "Fix" for the access problem now, as I NEED to get myself to a pain clinic and get back onto real painkillers, but I can't trust myself to manage the pills wisely. Someone Here (who lives 15 minutes away from me geographically) has offered to help me out, and THAT is a blessing in and of itself!

Well, I'll talk more later, but have to try to get home from work! its 9:31pm CST here right now.....

Good luck, fellow Ultam person!
Jess
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Hello everyone, I am new to this but not the topic.  I have crohns disease and have been on and off several medications.  My disease was fairly severe and the preferred med's at the time were hydrocodone and/or Ultram.  So i took both, unfortunate for me the ultram had a bigger pull on me then the hydrocodone.  After one year I was being presribed 9 per day- but was taking 15-18.  I was
"using" the drug, and it was using me.  I could not function without it.  There was one day i went part of the day without it (left it at home) never let that happen again.  Actually had to wake up in the middle of the night to take them.  This all stopped abrubtly when I awoke to see a paramedic in my bedroom along with 10 firemen and my wife looking on at 4am in the morning. I had a seizure in the middle of the night. The terrified look on her face alone convinced me I had to stop.  That morning i was sedated and sent home.  The next week was pure hell.  Nights were the worst.  Even made a trip to the ER, but got through it.  Life became good again, its funny, when you first start taking a drug like that the feelings you have in the begginning is good- but that all changes once you've got a problem.  Nothing compares to the way you feel when you are free of that, I'll come to that again in a minute.
Two years later...

We moved from Bama to Florida and I had a new doctor.  He knew of my problems and prescribed hydrocodone when my crohn's flared up again.  (100 of the 10's for those of you that know), I figured it  
took about two months and i was in the same boat again, different drug.  The only difference was when i stopped the withdrawls were not as bad.  I had been taking 6-8 per day, don't get me wrong- they were very unconfortable, but nothing like with the ultram.
Decided to have surgery to rid myself of the pain- and stop the source of the pills once and for all.  In the hospital for a month
on morphine, such a high dose due to my tolerance that the nurses were freaking out.  The day before i was released they took the morphine pump away and injected it instead.  When i went home I tried to "taper" myself down.  Went through 100 pills in less then a week.  So much for that.  Went to the doctor and leveled with him what was going on- he prescibed 100 more and a schedule to taper down- at least this time it lasted a week and 1/2.  It was supposed to last a month.  He also prescribed me Clonodine to lesson the severity of withdrawals.  I decided i was going to have to go cold turkey again or go in the hospital.  The withdrawals were more severe then before, but not as bad as with the ultram.  The one thing that has helped- I'm on day five- more then anything was getting out of my house.  I told my wife what was going on and we took a trip to out of town for the first three days.  I had to be out of the elements that remided me of the drug, and away from  any doctors that i could get them from.  The Clonodine helps, but it makes you dizzy and lowers your blood pressure.  Your body still aches- I take ibuprofen for the aches.  Still feel like i have the flu, but for a little while today i had that great feeling of being drug free.  that feeling that all of your senses are working and you are aware of your surroundings.  That feeling that its good to be alive and clean.  I figure i have at least a week of this left.  Good luck to all of you, this can be beaten.  
The WD's are a necessary part of the problem. The key i've found (i should of by now) is to keep it beaten.  

I noticed there was a bama fan and a tennessee fan in this forum.   Now there is an Auburn Tiger.
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That reminds me,I am the maid also.I better get to cleaning,after
chasin' those little girls aroung there is a mess here.I just love the mop!!I won't chicken out,just kiddin'.I like walking too
much not to have this surgery.
                       see ya
                       Bill
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Don't chicken out.  Get this overwith so you can move on.  I know you'll handle everything well.  And you're right--it won't be considered "using" if it's for a legit reason and you take it as directed.  You've really come a long way, and have been an inspiration to people on the board.  
Time to get some stuff done around here---the maid hasn't been worth a **** lately......... (that would be a joke, Bill...I'M the freakin' maid.......) Peaz
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Thanks for the post.I was chasin' little girls.It seems to be my job now.Oh well I could be chasin' something else you know.
I have been clean for I think 47 or 48 days.But that will end soon.I will be on Kadian which is the same as MS contin because of the knee thang but this time I won't consider it using.I will
just look at it as if I weren't taking it I would be hurting way to bad.I have an appointment today with my doc and he wants me back on it.But my knee replacement surgery will be coming up
next week unless I chicken out.So I will need some pain relief.
Well thanks for the thought this morning.I need all the thoughts and prayers I can get.
                                peace,
                                 bmac
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Hi!  Aren't you going on nearly two months clean??  I can't remember the actual count.  I try not to be  a "counter" and keep track of days sober, because to me it implies that after a certain time of "a whole lot of days" that it will have been long enough and okay for me to try "just a few".  So I just say "I'm sober" and that's that.  I did count in the beginning, though, because it ws the biggest  motivator I had.
Anyway, glad to hear you had a fun weekend w/ the (ahem) "little girls", and have a great Monday!!! Peaz
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No,but I think the call she received was info enough.My nephew is in Kuwait in a tank unit and he was suppose to come this week but he was told 6 more months.I wonder what that could be about.
My wife is in a mash unit and she is in a head trauma unit so if
we do go to war I am afraid she will get that call,but hey,if
I could go I would.You have a good day,it's pouring rain here
and it's going to be a rainy week.Well,see ya!!!
                                bmac
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got a good laugh out of that did ya?I did too lol Hope your day is off to a good start.Has your wife heard anything else from her unit?You and her will be in my thoughts.

pixi

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Pixi,
   I talk to myself too.lol.I really do.lol
That's was really funny.Have a good day.
                           bmac
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The post to myself was actually meant for you.pixi to pixi.Sorry about that.

pixi
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oh, another thing, perhaps you could get your bf to come here and get information for himself...helping yourself is the best medicine.  if he doesn't want to come here, i will try to help you with your questions if i can.
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i never saw your post, which is why i guess i didn't answer.  many non-addicts have posted here trying to help loved ones, and i don't think anyone had a problem with posting back...don't assume anything ok?

if you re-post your questions, i'll try to help you out.  have a good one...
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I remember your earlier post.Please dont be discouraged about not getting responses yet.Its kinda slow here on the weekends but if you will post at the top,Im sure you will get plenty of responses.I think it's great that you want to help your bf.I myself am just not familiar with (I think you said crack) sorry if im wrong.Good luck.

pixi
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well, i guess nobody can help me, I posted about trying to help my bf through WD and got no response. It seems most people using
dont want to talk to non addicts, but i am only interested in helping not making judgements. whats the deal?
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Hey, thanks for th info.  I feel much better now.

I'm a little concerned about your own w/d plans.  I don't think you should take Wellbutrin if you want to sleep the first few days.  That is a real wake-up med.
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On the very top thread "Still Looking for Chezz", Thomas02 has reposted his famous "recipe" just today.
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Thanx for the quick response DM.  I'm not hooked on xanex and ambien.. that is what i have for the WD... i'm hooked on Lortab...i appreciate the time... keep your fingers crossed for me.. :)
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This post is a bit far down, Im not sure how many folks will see it.. you may want to repost on a thread nearer the top.

This is the place to be if you want to stop.

You may get the runs and cramps also.. look through these threads and find "the thomas recipie" it will help. You seem hooked up on Xanax and Ambien (be careful of that ambien, its potent stuff, you can do things and not remember them). Id rather have someone who has had experience in those tell you how to take them.

Youre lucky to have your sister help you, love and support are prime factors in getting you through this.

Again, you may have better luck posting in a thread near the top of the page.

DM
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Hi... well.. i'm a little nervous about being here but i guess this is the first step to freedom...i have been on hydrocodone for about 6 months now and i believe that its time to quite the habit... i'm seriously depressed and suicidal and havent talked to anyone about this problem of mine yet except my sister whom i told just today..  The reason why i told her today is because i am going to visit her in NJ on wednesday.  She has always accepted me for who i am and i can trust her.. i am going to try and go cold turkey with her help.  So far the only symptoms that i have experienced of WD are sweating, hot and cold sweats and headaches.  I'm pretty nervous and scared to do this but i have to.. i dont want to be taking these anymore.  What i am looking for is to find out what i can expect and what my sister should know before i attempt the WD.  I have Xanax, Ambien and pot to help with the sumptoms but other than that.. i dont have a clue as to what to expect.. can any one out there help???...thanx
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Nope..no hangover from the stadol.  Just went to bed late.  Got up at about 9:30 but jus on here now.  "Oh wut a beautiful mornin!"
Soo-z-q
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