Withdrawl from Oxycotin

[KevinG]

I have been on a different pain killer for the past 7 months due to a knee injury. I started on hydrocodone/apap 7.5/500. After about a month, I stated to the doc that it didn't seem as if the pills were working, so he uped me to 10/650. I stayed on these up until my knee replacement last month, to when he discharged me with Oxycotin. I am now finishing with part of my therapy, and am trying to wein myself from the pain meds.
I've been taken to the ER twice thinking I was having heart attacks, been having shortness of breathe, chest pains, headaches, anxiety attacks, vomiting.
I was diagnosed as starting withdrawl, and prescribed Ativan.
How long should I expect these symptoms to remain, and is there anything other besides putting me on more drugs?
Thanks.

[Telby]

It was so nice of you Kip to respond to me.  I guess I'm not experieced with how to manuver my postings.  I originally wrote further up under hydrocodone but then I thought I should enter after the last posting.  Maybe among other things I could use advice on how to ask for advice.  In this area doctors have flooded patients with oxicotin but I have noticed some strange things.  The people who get scripts are usually on disability or have a medical card.  These people can have the actual pills delived to their front door by fed ex.  This is appalachia so there is alot of poverty, someone shows up at the door and offers hundreds of dollars for pills they didnt have to pay for and it is hard to turn down.  So there are people who have never comitted a crime i their life trafficing in narcotics.  There is no way a doctor is going to give me oxycotin for anything but there are many who get hundreds a month.  Pharmacutical companies, doctors and dealers are all getting rich while sick people like me are forced to pay too much and worry everyday about finding a pill.  This stuff effects the brain in our pain and pleasure centers so everything gets screwed up and it takes a long time to repair.  I keep trying to think what the healthy me would do because the sick me is not making good choices.  This forum has inspired me to force vitamins and minerals so I can start building myself up.  Yesterday I did one 40mg which kept me from being sick so I think I'm lowering my tolerance. Today I have done the same so the challange will be to not get another one later in the day when I start to feel like ****.  With this newest plane crash I can focus on other people's problems insted of my own pity party.  Thanks again for being out there somewhere.  Telby

[skipper]

telby:
you are "not out there alone!" the problem is when you post near
the bottom, it is real easy to get overlooked. i too take oxycontin
40mgs three times a day. my pharmacist tells me i'm not addicted to
them, rather i am dependent. when i ask the difference, he smiles
and tells me "you have a diagnosis, and more importantly insur-
ence!"

what a joke, i went almost 20 years feeding a drug habit by break-
ing into drug stores and clinics. to hear now that me and my ad-
diction are "legitimate" is somewhat amuseing. i am in intractable
pain so that is the reasion for oxy-c. i try to quit every 4-5
weeks for a week. when i do this i use Thomas's detox recipe.

i certainly look forward to further post from you Telby. please
post closer to the top. don't be afraid to break in on someone
elses thread.

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Telby]

Another day and I wonder if anyone is out there.  Just writing is good for me and if it happens to interest anyone else that is cool to.  Reading all of the concerns about the dreadful withdrawls from opiates I thought of some things I have learned along the way that helped me in the past.  When I was addicted to heroin I kicked at home.  The medication which saved me was Darvacet 100.  I hated it because it upset my stomach and gave me bad breath but it did cut the "sickness" enough that I could get through it.  They don't stay in the system long and they are hard on the kidneys and liver (take no more then two at a time, more will not help a bit and can hurt vital organs). As much as I disliked them I found I was dependent on them once I was over the heroin. So I tapered off every day reducing my dosage at least by one and this was the only time tapering was successful for me. Being addicted to a drug I hated was really too much. NOw these oxy's are a problem for me. I have no access to Darvacet anymore so that's out - short term use of methadone has helped me in the past (no longer then four-five days) but I can't find any of that.  I mentioned the Naltraxon because I can use that.  It is a very potent medication so I know to be very careful.  It causes immediate withdrawl so it's important to be used after tapering down to no more then 40mg a day (20 would be safer) and going at least 24 hours with nothing.  I know to take less then a hafe of a dose and that while I am taking it it creates an opiate blocker so it is impossible to feel effects of oxycotin.  It is a committment to getting clean and staying clean.  My head is the problem, giving up this old hateful evil friend is harder then outsiders think.  My self esteem is so low at this point and my fear of living life and facing myself is tremendous.  I also know I cannot continue spending my days feeling like ****, looking for drugs, waiting around for drugs, and figuring out how to pay for drugs.  Oxy's are now $1.00 per milligram in this area so it's a minimum of $40.00 per day which causes other bills to be put on the shelf, more stress, more drugs and on and on.  Once I start to feel sick I panic and since I have no emotional resources I end up back on the phone trying to hook up.  I have taken time off work to get my act together so it is now or never time.  I have so little faith in myself and when I look into the future I see a black hole.  This drug family is definatly run by the devil, it is a slow wearing away of the soul and one looses the ability to feel joy.  I noticed that most junkies live in a world without color or art, it seems to get soaked into the drug.  I do want out and I will work everyday to build myself up so this time I'll get through it and be done with it.  I give all of you a great deal of credit, unless you've been down this road one cannot know the pain and misary of such a life.  God bless us all, Telby

[Telby]

I have really enjoyed reading this forum. I am sitting here with a blanket wraped around me, last oxicotin was a hafe of and 80mg around 6:00pm yesterday.  I can feel the sickness coming on and I am so worried.  I have been sober from booze for the past twenty years but started with heroin in the mid ninties and now am strung out on oxicotin.  I hate this life and definatly need support getting out of it.  I read Thomas's detox recipe, I wonder if he has any thoughts about L-Glutamine to help with withdrawl.  I will continue to read comments and hope for better days.  I read somewhere that it takes 180 days free of opiotes for the brain to recover fully and maybe then the depression lifts and the sun can come out again.  I can't seem to get through 48 hours at this point.  I have a friend who has offered me naltraxon to bring me out of the withdrawl and give opiote blocker.  we'll see.  Telby

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