abusing oxycontin and suboxone

[deceasedwithin]

i have been abusing oxycontin for about 3 years now. last year i quit cold turkey and was sick for a good 2 weeks with the most horible withdrawals ive ever experienced. finally made it out clean and was starting to get my **** together when bam started all over again back into blowing 2 or 3 80's a day finally a friend got me some suboxone which i began taking and slowly wheened my self off of that, clean once again for a few months. fast forward to now and im using oxycontin again every day except this time when i run out and withdrawals start i take suboxone then go back to oxy or morphine or anything i can get my hands on then back to suboxone so in other words im constantly on something whether a real opiate or sub just to keep me from getting sick its getting so out of control and i wanted to know if any one else here couldn't beat the cravings even on suboxone         help!

[Sithtiger]

Agreed...I was taking Vicodin for 14 years and I tried to stop about 3 other times this year.  I didn't stop until I burned my bridges and told the doctors what was going on.  It's a scary thing to do, but it shows that your serious.  Just like everyone else said here, you're not going to quit until you're ready.

I took Vicodin so long it actually flat out quit working for me.  I was taking up to 60+ a day from 15 a day and it did nothing!  I'm not sure I would have quit had it not stopped working, so I consider myself lucky.  It's not as hard for me, but ya know what...stopping this 4th and last time has been the easiest because I believe I know that I mean business this time.

It really ***** but you're going to have to deal with your emotions.  It's really not as bad as you think it will be.  Don't stop fighting and you'll be fine!

[worried878]

when u r ready to quit u will know..and it wont be so hard...still hard but not so hard (:  u will reach a point where u r just over it.and even then it is hard for many...but it takes a while and u r possibly working thru things and on the way to being "over it"

[deceasedwithin]

thank you for your advice my problem is with suboxone i still get cravings and regardless of what anyone says i can still feel oxy over the suboxone as long as its 6-8 hours afterwards its almost like im even higher due to the sub and the oxy only time its a problem is if its the opposite , oxy then sub cause of course that will bring on withdrawal i guess like u all know its not an easy decision to make even though the right thing to do is clearly in your face ive been clean before and back and forth enough to know i cause the problem on myself but i dont know how to face reality anymore i think i try to hide my problems so much  i end up digging myself deeper and deeper into this hell

[worried878]

sounds like u need to make a choice...cutting off any supply of the oxy..telling friends and doctors "no more" would help..meetings or aftercare and a firm decision that u r quitting....if u need sub to quit then plan a taper with your doctors help and then cut urself off of that too...as sometimes people get stuck on the sub longer than they wanted to then have to wd from that..some even go back to their doc to wd off of sub...get off the merry go round and make a choice to be clean,,u can do this

[christos24]

i did the same thing for almost four months, i actually had to get on a methadone treatment program, and its been over 10 mths and ive been clean since, methadone is addictive and the wd's are wrose than anything ive ever endured bfore, ive been through huge H and Oxy CT wd's and that felt like laying on the beach in the sand compared the hell that methadone wd brigns forth..if you taper slowly and are medically supervised you will not go throiugha ny of that, but i got oulled over and had two misdimeanor tickets unpaid and they were considered bench warrants so i ahd to go to milwaukee county jail for three and half days CTing off 100mgs of methadonea dn 10mgs of xanax daily..it was by far the worst site iver ever seen let alone all the prisoners, they were shocked and felt terrible for me since all the nurses did even tho they talk to my done doctor and therapist for the xanax, offered me two tylenols when they told me that i threw up and then shat instantly afterwards, it wsa horrendous adn to think that it would ahve alsted well overa month usually about two months, that amazed me in the worst way..ugh just thinking of it makes me cringe...suboxone wd's take longer to show up cuz of how long it works in your system around 2 days or more, so it may be 5 or 6 days before the wd's kick in, and then its two months of hell....for all treatment opioids you need to slowly taper down and that is the only way to ease the discomfort....for your case you ahve to want to get clean, you truly way way down deep inside you want to be off of all opiates for GOOD..its really hard, and msot truly cant honestly say that, i know i couldnt for almsot the first whole year, yeah i was clean but i knew if i could get some or was fofered for free there was a good chance i would be railing it up..you should stick with suboxone, going back and forth is absolutely pointless, unless you wait a week after taking the suboxone you wont raelly feel anything from the oxies or the pills your snorting, but it soudns like you get your sub from friends and that changes and says alot about your really wanting to quit???...if you really want to stop all the worrying, the wd's,  the cravings(for the most part, there is no miracle, your brain needs months to fix all thats been damaged from the opiate abuse), and the waiting for one connection or one falling through or a jacking up on the 80's etc etc etc. it gets soo stupid and pointless, arent you sicka dn tired of being sick and tired, being enslaved to stupid pill..i know it makes me ashamed of myself, but going to detox and being put on suboxone and starting treatment was the best thing i could have done, i was fully clean, had no wd discomfort, and had minimal cravings(its all mental you have to take control of that aspect)..youre going to have to sit down and truly think to yourself if you really want to quit using or not??, if you do great! thats the best decision of your life, you can really be alive again and live life, not destroying it along w/ others, and live a structured, normal motivated life...if you really want to quit all the mid games and terrible bouts of pleasure adn hell, search on google and find a sub doctor which theyar e everywhere now go through a short detox for about 2 days at most and then youa re put on suboxone the right way w/ medical supervision and having an addiction specialist help you through the recovery process.. one thing iw as wondering was your opiate abusing habit right now cant be too great or bad cuz if you can feel the oxies or any other opiate you can get your hands on even though youre taking suboxone when you cant find anything., the drug in suboxone buprenorphine has a strong blockade effect for other opiates/opioids it binds extremely tight to all the opiate recptors stopping any other opiates coming in your system from attaching themselves thus rendering themselves a waste of money and drugs...maybe your not taking the suboxone very often at all,and  its completely out of your system which would be unlikely or your addiction isnt that severe, idk, best of luck to you..-christos

[mtgoat911]

do you want to get off drugs or get onto a suboxone clinic, there are a couple of options, but we would need to know what your goal is first
xo

[cattalina]

You have to really truly want to be clean to stay clean. The sub is only a tool to help you get to recovery. You just obviously aren't sick and tired of being sick and tired yet. Plus the sub needs to build up in your system before the full effects of the medication are utilized. When I first started on sub my cravings were absolutely horrible. Some so bad I ended up crying uncontrollably,breaking things, extreme panic attacks and more. But I wanted to be clean so bad I did whatever I had to do to get thru them and not use. When you're ready you'll get there but its clear you're not just yet. Bouncing from sub to other pills over and over again will only continue to put you in the same situations and positions over and over again. You just have to be willing to do what it takes to stop the cycle. Good luck to you.