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cincee

it has aslways seemed to me whenever i used everything in my life would go wrong, when i used  i would get flat tires every week.
when i used i got arrested at least 50 times' for things that i was not even part of doing.
i think they call it murphy's law , well it always had a strangle hold on my life ,whenever i  did drugs.
I somtimes thought it was my father praying for me, so i
would say to him stop praying for me , i crashed my car,
lost my job and broke my ankle  that week.

there is the other side of this story, once i started on the
road of staying clean the oppisite happened, everythin that could go right did, instead of spending my money on drugs,
and buying 5 dollar tires at the junk yard  i, bought sears steel belted raidels and never got a flat agian.
i never got arrested agian, inever lost my job agian,
i got custdy of my kids, ect, ece,
when i got clean and went to meetings it was like i was invisible
to the cops, and invisible to bad things coming my way.

i am writing this because  cincee posted that the only na meeting she could find was i the bad lands,in her town
and she would not go there unarmed, well my experence
has always been ,whenever we make that effort or surrender to
go to meetings , we seem to be invisible to trouble.
i grew up in the bad lands in philly so i understand her concern.
when ever i went back to the badlands to start meetings
or attend them i was a little leary but nothing ever happened.
CINCEE -call the na hotlone and ask , there are a lot of meetings not listed , talk to smeone sbout ,in your area.
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Jess,

Thank you for the concern about the Klonopin and Ultram.
I have been on Klonopin for nearly four years and on Ultram for the second timein four years. I was on straight Codiene with the Klonopin for about one year and had the seizures every eight days or so. They even became long black out seizures lasting up to two hours.

When I was drinking, my sugar was a little elevated. I was tested thouroughly for any pancreatic and/or liver damage luckily none was found only high blood pressure due to the drinking.

The Ultram caused an annoying side effect at first making it difficult to urinate, but I was also on Celexa (SSRI)at the time. I stopped both of those nearly a year ago. I started back on the Ultram about five months ago and now that I quit drinking again after a relapse, I have not seized since.

I realize any opiate or even synthetic one such as Ultram do lower the seizure threshold. Any stronger pain killer would just lower the threshold more. I would rather "SHAKEDOWN" once in a while than be in pain all the time and not be able to function. Even Advil is said to lower the threshold and I take that in between sometimes.

After being sober for over one year I was given a six hour glucose tolerance test. I started out lower than normal to begin with, then by the third hour dropped to a 45 which they say is close to or at the seizure and even come level of low blood sugar. They said they were surprised I did not at least have a seizure. They said a drop to 40 is near death from a coma state. Those black out seizures I was having were almost like that.

The Ultram ia making my life much more comfortable so I will stick with it in spite of the warnings. All I ask is to see one more great Super-Typhoon before I go.

Thanks for the input, all is appreciated even if I don't follow it. I would rather be on something stronger, but they are neurotic here about pain meds and benzos, even when physical ailments are proven by specialists from the mainland for pain and, Neurology and Rheumotology.

Thanks you to Bmac for your concern. I think I'll be okay on my newly found method upon waking. Eating a balanced diet has been helping too. I used to eat terribly to nothing at all when I was drinking so much. Had nowhere to fit the food, LOL. I do think I will try the L-tyrosine for enery however and see how that may help. No hot baths possible, I have been taking cold showers for five years ever since Super-Typhoon Paka hit and damaged my water heater. I have been too cheap to buy a new one.

Bye for now, hope you are all feeling some peace and less pain. Sunshine has a way of perking a person up during the fall season over there.

Since many are giving out emails, mine is  ***@****


Chatahan
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I am also concerned about this. I am not sure if people understand the agonist/antagonist properties of the meds they are taking.
I an still searching for a site where you can plug in your meds and it will come back with the problems.
Some people don't understand you can take 2 meds that can almost completely make both of the worthless.
Or worse yet, will cause catastrophy, or death.
Chezz
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I did not mean Money is of no object. My case is just different. I can't say how. I need a little anonymity too.
I just don't have to pay for it.
10 years ago I took care of health care for the rest of my life.
When this problem started, I wanted to make sure that I would never be left out in the cold. This is a lifelong thing. It isn't going to go away.
So I took care of myself.
Chezz

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to Chatahan:
P.S. I re-read your post, and I forgot to mention a VERY IMPORTANT fact:

Any Benzodiazepine. (including Klonopin, Valium, Xanax, etc) combined With Tramadol (Ultram) is contraindicated BY THE MANUFACTURER!~

Quoted in the literature from Ortho-Mcneil drug manufacturer of Ultram:

".......There is also a significantly increased risk of seizures while taking Ultram if you are also taking Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI antidepressants) i.e. prozac, etc., tricyclic compounds i.e. Flexeril (cyclobenzaprine), Phenergan (promethazine) or Benzodiazepines (i.e. Valium, Klonopin), tricyclic antidepressants, or MAO Inhibitors.........."

I hope that you will take this information to heart!
/Jessesarpy/
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GOD
Hey there...

Hope you're doing O.K.-- If you've read most of my posts, you're probably aware that I've got the most "Experience" on this board with ULTRAM... And I used to drink the Vodka and Gin like a fish... 1-1.75 liters per day for last 2 years of my drinking career. Because of the similarites in our "Story", I would recommend that you: 1.) get tested for type 2 diabetes and 2.)Stop taking Ultram.

The Diabetes or Diabetic TYPE symptoms can be caused by pancreatic damage from the drinking. By the "Grace of God" the damage I caused myself is healing "Well", and most of my  diabetic symptoms are no longer there.

The reason to STOP the Ultram is VERY SIMPLE.. If you are ALREADY PRONE to seizures, Ultram WILL GIVE YOU SEIZURES.. Even the drug manufacturer warns of this potentially fatal "Side-effect"... I'm Lucky enough to have never HAD a seizure, even though my Ultram consuption was through the proverbial roof....

Please heed my advice!
Just concerned,
Jess

P.S. if you have any detailed questions about effects of Ultram, Diabetic symptoms, etc.. don't hesitate to e-mail me at ***@**** (I have plenty of experience in these "Fields", and If I can help you out in ANY way it would be my pleasure..)
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Cincee,

I just want to take the time to thank you for your posts to me. I have went through and read all of the posts I missed. It feels nice to know that someone was worried and wondering where I was at. It was a very hard time for me. Pain as you know is mentally and physically debilitatiing.

I hope you can get through this visit without a hitch. I know you are very concerned. I can see your apprehension and fear in your posts.

I will be here wondering where YOU are at if you don't post.
Thanks again.

To all of the other people that did or did not post their concern or care, Thank you too.

If anyone wants to email me with questions, concerns, or just to vent. Here is my email address again. I have posted it before and have gotten some very meaningful emails that people thought were "stupid".

The only stupid questions are the ones that go unasked.

Thanks again,
Chezz

PS. Some have asked why I haven't responded to their posts, or have felt "left out". Let me know. I don't always feel like my posts are well taken. I am unsure how people feel about me as well. As strong or whatever a person you think I am, I am just like YOU. Scared, confused, and overwhelmed sometimes. I also have insecurities, and don't always feel my comments are welcome.
I am not the type to think that I can HELP all of the time. I am just as unsure as anybody else. Let me know.
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