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Oxycontin Withdrawels
Does anyone have any answers to how to better come off of Oxys? I am on my third day of tapering off from 120mg a day to today of 5 mg. I have no energy, and have read to take lots of vitamins, which do not seem to be helping. Its the New Year and was hoping to have this habit kicked. I've got three beautiful children who want their Mom back and I can hardly get out of bed.
My MIL was detoxed off coke, vikes and xanax with valium and clonidine together.
Before the clonidine was administered every time, her blood pressure had to be high enough to receive a dose.
She was so relieved with the clonidine, she would smoke a cigarette, just to make sure her BP would be at a level to get another dose.
REMEMBER, this was under medical supervision, but they were both given together.
Percs
Before the clonidine was administered every time, her blood pressure had to be high enough to receive a dose.
She was so relieved with the clonidine, she would smoke a cigarette, just to make sure her BP would be at a level to get another dose.
REMEMBER, this was under medical supervision, but they were both given together.
Percs
Hi All,
Does anyone know if clonodine can be used with the "Thomas" recipe along with Valium. Basically are there any dangers involved in mixing the Clonodine and Valium? Planning to kick a 100mg Oxy (snort) habit next weekend. I have ran out before for a couple of days and basically just sweated and felt like I had the flu. I wish I had known about this post sooner for all the helpful information and moral support. I have all the ingredients in the Thomas recipe as of tonight. Just going to use up the last of my perc's before the weekend. God bless you all. Thanks.
Jerry
Does anyone know if clonodine can be used with the "Thomas" recipe along with Valium. Basically are there any dangers involved in mixing the Clonodine and Valium? Planning to kick a 100mg Oxy (snort) habit next weekend. I have ran out before for a couple of days and basically just sweated and felt like I had the flu. I wish I had known about this post sooner for all the helpful information and moral support. I have all the ingredients in the Thomas recipe as of tonight. Just going to use up the last of my perc's before the weekend. God bless you all. Thanks.
Jerry
I too havent had alot of responses. But it does take awhile for everyone to read through these threads. Please dont get discouraged. I read through about every hour or so. I took a week off from work to go through ct wds. For me it helps to just read through all of the threads. Also remember we are all feeling down and like a train wreck from all the poison were trying to get out of our systems... Sometimes I feel good and othertimes I dont think Im going to make it. Im in day 6.. Coming off vics percs duragesic patchs 50mg. or whatever I could get just to feel normal.. So I thought it was normal. I guess I should say to function... Ive read to that if you post up hirer more people will see your ????? and youll get more responses. They said not everyone reads all the way down.. Im here if you need me. Good Luck J.E.W.
....here is the Thomas Recipe, just in case.....
THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
as i posted last week, i began my detox from oxy's taking my last two 10 mgs. on thursday morning. i had valium to help with the aches, i took ALOT of EPSOM SALT BATHS - 2 full cups, drank alot of o.j. and took syberian ginsing for energy and feel great, besides a few tears from out of no-where and a few bitchy outbursts but really i'm always like that.
what i don't understand, is that i posted, does anyone have any additional info i could use for the detox, and NO ONE wrote back, also wrote i didn't know the thommas's recipe and could find it. i think you need to want to do this and you will, as far as this site, i think it has more to do with feeling osrry for yourselves than being positive; i ran 2 miles yesterday and haven't run in 2 years. quit whining and just ******* do it; as for this site, i will not return; and thanks for the NO advice, assholes.
what i don't understand, is that i posted, does anyone have any additional info i could use for the detox, and NO ONE wrote back, also wrote i didn't know the thommas's recipe and could find it. i think you need to want to do this and you will, as far as this site, i think it has more to do with feeling osrry for yourselves than being positive; i ran 2 miles yesterday and haven't run in 2 years. quit whining and just ******* do it; as for this site, i will not return; and thanks for the NO advice, assholes.
WHOOAA, hold on.....I'm sorry you didn't get the responses you deserve. Please don't go anywhere.( I certainly understand your anger)
I try to respond to as many people as possible, as do others here; and believe me, many many times I/we give advice/support and don't get another response;;;BUT I/we try not to take it personally!!! Coming off pills is a ***** period, and with our self esteem and ego soooo fragile, its real easy to get hurt feelings or angry.
Do you know how many times I've copied and pasted the Thomas Recipe for people????
Again, evryone who posts here matters, and with 10's of new people coming here every few days, it is impossible to "catch" everyone.
THIS PLACE CAN BE OF REAL BENEFIT TO YOU IN YOUR STAYING IN RECOVERY; so I hope you stick around!!
Percs
I try to respond to as many people as possible, as do others here; and believe me, many many times I/we give advice/support and don't get another response;;;BUT I/we try not to take it personally!!! Coming off pills is a ***** period, and with our self esteem and ego soooo fragile, its real easy to get hurt feelings or angry.
Do you know how many times I've copied and pasted the Thomas Recipe for people????
Again, evryone who posts here matters, and with 10's of new people coming here every few days, it is impossible to "catch" everyone.
THIS PLACE CAN BE OF REAL BENEFIT TO YOU IN YOUR STAYING IN RECOVERY; so I hope you stick around!!
Percs
I just reread this thread, and in fact Jontyra responded to you on Jan.3rd, saying someone(Thomas...who formulated the Detox Recipe) emailed her the recipe, and if you wanted it, to email her.....
When I was coming off percs last August, I posted my story; which included 5 deaths(just two of which were mybest friend...MOM, and my best buddy murdered), 2 back surgeries, etc; and I only received 1(ONE) response. I was crushed at first but I just hung in, and as time passed more and more people responded, and helped me out.
Now, on Sunday, it will be 5 months off percs.
ps...this is the 1 year anniversary of the worst day of my life, with my mother passing away(from a blood clot that resulted from a skating injury)
When I was coming off percs last August, I posted my story; which included 5 deaths(just two of which were mybest friend...MOM, and my best buddy murdered), 2 back surgeries, etc; and I only received 1(ONE) response. I was crushed at first but I just hung in, and as time passed more and more people responded, and helped me out.
Now, on Sunday, it will be 5 months off percs.
ps...this is the 1 year anniversary of the worst day of my life, with my mother passing away(from a blood clot that resulted from a skating injury)
Thanks so much for the post. I'm some what relieved to hear that my case is on the milder side. Thank you for the recipe, but I think I need to do this cold turkey. I've never taken a valium in my life & I'm afraid too start now. This script that the doc just wrote me is for about 90 pills, would it be better to switch to 10mg oxy then to a 5mg then nothing? I am afraid of how I will manage my back pain w/out pain meds. The really wierd thing is that all this time, I've been working, taking care of the house / kids - I really didn't think there was anything wrong. If I didn't run out of the pills and go thru 2 days of hell - that magically went away after I took the oxy, I would still be in the dark. Right now, I exercise faithfully 3 days a week to help manage the back pain, so I'm not sure what will happen when I stop all together. I have a good doc, but I'm afraid to call him after he just wrote this big script for me and tell him I need another w/ a lesser dosage. I guess I don't want him to know.
What does the L-Tyrosine do for you? If I go down to 5mg, will I still need to go thru al this?
You have been so helpful, thank you, Oxic.
What does the L-Tyrosine do for you? If I go down to 5mg, will I still need to go thru al this?
You have been so helpful, thank you, Oxic.
Morning.
Most of the Thomas Recipe is "natural", so no problem not wanting to do the valium; but the rest of the ingredients and directions I would follow.
The L-Tyrosine is a naturally occuring amino acid, that actually is very similar to our body's own painkiller, dopamine.
Remember, while you have been injesting the synthetic pain killers, your body has essentially stopped producing its own painkillers; so the Tyrosine in combo with vit. B-6(for absorption) can be a huge benefit.
I swear by it!!!!
As far as the pain meds, coming off oxycontin is more painful and dragged out than regular oxycodone or hydrocodone; that's why i wanted you to see about switching.
If you told your doc., you needed some (ie 5mg percocet) breakthrough meds for really bad pain days, he probably wouldn't bat an eye.
Then we could taper you down with those; like 4-5/day for a few days, then 3/day for a few, etc. all the way down to zero, and get you going on the L-Tyrosine/B-6, and you should dramatically have reduced the w/d's.
The back pain part I know all to well(L5-S1 surgeries), but you really have to be honest with yourself about this one. Your tolerance will continue to build, and you will require more and more, ultimately sucking everything you have out of you.
Millions and millions of people live with terrible pain and without narcotics. I will not try to convince you one way or the other, I can only pass on my experience....
Percs
Most of the Thomas Recipe is "natural", so no problem not wanting to do the valium; but the rest of the ingredients and directions I would follow.
The L-Tyrosine is a naturally occuring amino acid, that actually is very similar to our body's own painkiller, dopamine.
Remember, while you have been injesting the synthetic pain killers, your body has essentially stopped producing its own painkillers; so the Tyrosine in combo with vit. B-6(for absorption) can be a huge benefit.
I swear by it!!!!
As far as the pain meds, coming off oxycontin is more painful and dragged out than regular oxycodone or hydrocodone; that's why i wanted you to see about switching.
If you told your doc., you needed some (ie 5mg percocet) breakthrough meds for really bad pain days, he probably wouldn't bat an eye.
Then we could taper you down with those; like 4-5/day for a few days, then 3/day for a few, etc. all the way down to zero, and get you going on the L-Tyrosine/B-6, and you should dramatically have reduced the w/d's.
The back pain part I know all to well(L5-S1 surgeries), but you really have to be honest with yourself about this one. Your tolerance will continue to build, and you will require more and more, ultimately sucking everything you have out of you.
Millions and millions of people live with terrible pain and without narcotics. I will not try to convince you one way or the other, I can only pass on my experience....
Percs
I've been thinking all day. You are right. The longer I stay on the meds, the longer my body will continue to need them and not heal on it's own. I will call my doc on Monday about getting the percs. I will continue to read all that is on this forum, b/c I've have learned a ton in just two short days.
The way I look at it, a lot of other people are living w/ pain worse than mine (probely you for one) - & they are finding ways to manage it. I'm pretty stubborn, so if I put my mind to something, I usually can do it. I need to continue to learn all the facts. I will stay in touch when I hear back from my doc.
Please look for my post in a few days. You have been a true blessing.
Thankz...... Ra
The way I look at it, a lot of other people are living w/ pain worse than mine (probely you for one) - & they are finding ways to manage it. I'm pretty stubborn, so if I put my mind to something, I usually can do it. I need to continue to learn all the facts. I will stay in touch when I hear back from my doc.
Please look for my post in a few days. You have been a true blessing.
Thankz...... Ra
Hi again, it's percs here(oxic is my home handle).
So today is your first day at 20mgs right?
I would stay at this doseage for about five or so days, until your body stabilizes. Now you probably know that oxycontin is time released/long acting, so if you have a doctor that will work with you(which it sounds like you do), i would try to switch to a faster acting med, like percocet 5mg or if you want a lit'l less strong med, vicoden.
I'm just suggesting this to try and "let you down" easier.
There are several ways to get off these; and the really good news is you are at a relatively low doseage. You could even cold turkey at this level, but why suffer unnecessarily.....especially with lit'l ones to tend to.
Also there is a recipe that one of "veterans" has formulated, that has helped a ton of people. It is really terrific for the lethargy and general brain-fog you will probably experience once you are off. THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
I can assure you, we all have that paralyzing fear at times, but I want you to know, the fear is USUALLY worse than the actual experience.
Any questions, post away.
percs
So today is your first day at 20mgs right?
I would stay at this doseage for about five or so days, until your body stabilizes. Now you probably know that oxycontin is time released/long acting, so if you have a doctor that will work with you(which it sounds like you do), i would try to switch to a faster acting med, like percocet 5mg or if you want a lit'l less strong med, vicoden.
I'm just suggesting this to try and "let you down" easier.
There are several ways to get off these; and the really good news is you are at a relatively low doseage. You could even cold turkey at this level, but why suffer unnecessarily.....especially with lit'l ones to tend to.
Also there is a recipe that one of "veterans" has formulated, that has helped a ton of people. It is really terrific for the lethargy and general brain-fog you will probably experience once you are off. THOMAS RECIPE
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
I can assure you, we all have that paralyzing fear at times, but I want you to know, the fear is USUALLY worse than the actual experience.
Any questions, post away.
percs
I'm new at this, so I'm sure I'm not explaining this right. I was taking one pill, 40mg, for about 6mos, I asked my doc to cut me down to 20mg, just b/c I thought I could - not b/c I thought I was addicted. please advise.
.....or, that you were taking 8 5mg oxycodone's/day???
And now you cut back to 4 pills??
And now you cut back to 4 pills??
Hey Welcome Aboard!!
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!
So were you doing 40mg oxycontin?; and if so 1 tab/day???
And you got a new script for 20mg oxy???
Just clarify a lit'l......it's late in the day, and i'm probably just not reading well.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!
So were you doing 40mg oxycontin?; and if so 1 tab/day???
And you got a new script for 20mg oxy???
Just clarify a lit'l......it's late in the day, and i'm probably just not reading well.
Wow, I am really afraid. Just yesterday I thought I had the flu. I really didn't have any reason not to think that b/c everyone around school is getting sick. I had the runs for 2 days and every bone in my body hurt. Then I filled my perscription for Oxy and all my symptoms went away. That is when I found this site. Now I'm really scared. I was perscribed Oxy's for pain and have been on 40 mg for about 6 monthes. I've never imigined that I could get addicted - I knew the power of them, but I thought that as long as my body still had ligimate pain, I wouldn't get the addiction. Now that I know, I need to get off them. The script I just filled is for half - 20 mg. Is this what tapering is? How long should I take 20mg - or should I just stop cold turkey. This would be hard, I'm a mom of 2 little ones and I work full-time. I can't really afford to take any time off. There isn't a person around here that I could tell this too that would understand. There is no-one in my family that is / or has ever been addicted to anything, so I don't think they will understand. I'm feeling very alone. I need to get off these. Please help me.
how is the detox going? what day are you on? i have 7 ambien sleeping pills and 7 valium, i'm planning on taking my last oxy on thursday holy **** TOMORROW..... took the weekend off work so i'll have fri. thru tuesday off. from your experience should i take more time off? how are you doing? at what point is it the worst for you, day 2,3, ?? i keep telling my boyfriend 'maybe i should wait til the kids aren't around to do this' or 'i can't take off work we need the money' but he knows i'm stalling. he's going to be here to massage my back and is taking my keys. i sisn't realize my body was addicted to them until i ran out last week; i almost wish i hadn't found out yet, ignorance certainly was bliss. let me know how you're doing. -- anyone else with any extra advice as to supplies to have please respond... i can't find the thomas's recipe but i am already downing o.j. and am picking up a multi-vitamen tomorrow.
Are you hanging in there? You're going through the hard part now but its almost over. Please don't give up. Life really is better without the pills. I promise. :0)
Ha! That is funny, At least you got boobs, I have 3 brothers, I was the only girl, and was total tomboy, Still in a training bra and 41 yrs old. That's sad, Why even bother to wear a bra, right! I played football, wrestling, basketball, swimming, tennis and baseball/softball. Now I can't even pick up a tennis ball. It is 11:30 and just getting out of bed. I do feel better, just my back hurts really bad and legs do not want to move, It is freezing cold today, so much for trying to get outside. Just want to stay in bed all day. I am still following the recipe. I just hope to get more energy like real soon. I do not know how much longer I can hold out. Your advise is great. I will take this one day at a time, do a whole lot of praying and keep my fingers crossed. I still have 1/2 oxy on my dresser. Maybe I will stay strong enough to have it framed. You know how people have their first dollar framed after opening a new business. I will frame this 1/2 oxy and call it "The Pill that owned me" It really did, I had to have it to breathe, function, go outside, just to try to live life itself. I fealt without it I would die. But I didn't. I am still hanging on. Peace to all!
good job on cutting back, you sound like a strong lady. Get active make a plan and stick to it. you'll be fine!
teeitup!
teeitup!
Well look at that, you made it through another day! I'm so proud of you! Except for the beating yourself up part. Stop it again! Your kids will be just fine in a rented house with less toys as long as their mom is fine, and you are working on that right now. Your Taking care of you so you can take care of them.
If you're reading this when you're first getting up, I know how you're feeling. That was the worst part of the day for me...how do I get out of this bed without a pill to get me up and going? Then, if I do get up, how am I gonna get through this whole day, week, month etc. Right now, just take the day in little chunks of time. Just think about what your supposed to do next, even if its just to get up wash your face and drag yourself onto the couch. Just do the next right thing.
It may help if you prayed a little and it doesn't matter to whom or what, just say "help me". Then try to think of one thing to be grateful for. It can't be an easy one either, like your kids or being alive, of course your grateful for that stuff. I mean something to be grateful that you can feel right now. I remember feeling grateful for being able to finally be strong enough to make my kids homemade meatballs, I mean thats what a "real mom" does right? They say a grateful addict never relapses. It's hard, but I try to get grateful when I'm having a "psycho kid moment". Did I tell you that my kids are 3, 5 and 7 girl, boy, girl? With that combination there is always some commotion that eventually ends up with an "I'm telling!" followed by a gut wrenching, ear piercing "mooooommmm!!!" You see that? I just thought of something you can be grateful for right now...you only have 1 three year old and the other 2 are, like you said, basically independant. So there, tell yourself Kent did it with three little psycho's, I can do it with just my one little angel. (Kent is my name by the way and no my parents didn't want a boy because I am adopted and they asked for a girl. It's just a family name and probably why I became a drug addict :0) Teasing... although, it was pretty bad before I got boobs, people sometimes thought I was a little boy!)ok, did you just laugh a little? a smile at least? Wait until your off this stuff completely, you'll laugh so much more when your clean. So keep going one more day girl,you can do this. I don't know what it is about you but your post seemed to have jumped off the screen when I read it, now I'm really thinking and praying for you alot.
If you're reading this when you're first getting up, I know how you're feeling. That was the worst part of the day for me...how do I get out of this bed without a pill to get me up and going? Then, if I do get up, how am I gonna get through this whole day, week, month etc. Right now, just take the day in little chunks of time. Just think about what your supposed to do next, even if its just to get up wash your face and drag yourself onto the couch. Just do the next right thing.
It may help if you prayed a little and it doesn't matter to whom or what, just say "help me". Then try to think of one thing to be grateful for. It can't be an easy one either, like your kids or being alive, of course your grateful for that stuff. I mean something to be grateful that you can feel right now. I remember feeling grateful for being able to finally be strong enough to make my kids homemade meatballs, I mean thats what a "real mom" does right? They say a grateful addict never relapses. It's hard, but I try to get grateful when I'm having a "psycho kid moment". Did I tell you that my kids are 3, 5 and 7 girl, boy, girl? With that combination there is always some commotion that eventually ends up with an "I'm telling!" followed by a gut wrenching, ear piercing "mooooommmm!!!" You see that? I just thought of something you can be grateful for right now...you only have 1 three year old and the other 2 are, like you said, basically independant. So there, tell yourself Kent did it with three little psycho's, I can do it with just my one little angel. (Kent is my name by the way and no my parents didn't want a boy because I am adopted and they asked for a girl. It's just a family name and probably why I became a drug addict :0) Teasing... although, it was pretty bad before I got boobs, people sometimes thought I was a little boy!)ok, did you just laugh a little? a smile at least? Wait until your off this stuff completely, you'll laugh so much more when your clean. So keep going one more day girl,you can do this. I don't know what it is about you but your post seemed to have jumped off the screen when I read it, now I'm really thinking and praying for you alot.
I just got out of bed to read this, 11:45. Kids are drinking koolaid and cookies in front of TV. (can't stand that) Thanks "lifeisbetter" you are keeping my hopes up. I drank a cup of coffee, yep, that's it so far today. I still have 1/2 of oxy, someone gave me 4 meth, have not really used them that much, almost afraid to. Going to take the the B-6 and the L-Tyrosine. 2000 mgs seems too much for me so going to take the 2 500 mgs (1000 mgs) of the L-Tyrosine. Ok, Now I am going for the vitamin ride. Lets see how well this Thomas's Recipe works. Got everything but the Valium. Can't find anyone with any. Does that sound awful. I can't just go to a Doc to get these Meds. I have to get them off the streets.
LifeisBetter: Like you I had a great job at AT&T for 13 years, beautiful home, nice cars, nice husband, nice friends, family and neighbors. Now I do not have a job, been living off of unemployement and child support since May 1, 2002. Last unemployment check was Dec 28th. Live a rental home, car ready to be repo'd, get food from "food banks".
I went from living the good life to living in HELL! I am totally sick of it. I want a JOB, friends, nice house, car (Again). This has got to be awful for the kids. GOTTA DO IT!
LifeisBetter: Like you I had a great job at AT&T for 13 years, beautiful home, nice cars, nice husband, nice friends, family and neighbors. Now I do not have a job, been living off of unemployement and child support since May 1, 2002. Last unemployment check was Dec 28th. Live a rental home, car ready to be repo'd, get food from "food banks".
I went from living the good life to living in HELL! I am totally sick of it. I want a JOB, friends, nice house, car (Again). This has got to be awful for the kids. GOTTA DO IT!
Used the Thomas recipe today, seemed to work as far as a little energy, stayed in bed all day. Did get up a few times to stretch and eat. I did not take any of the meths, will only resort to if I totally feel that I need them. All I want is to get my energy back. I did search on Monster for a job. Nothing really avail in my field. Looked at my 1/2 of Oxy, it was so tempting. Just feel like why bother, 1/2 is not going to do anything for me right now. Kids are with my X. Thank Goodness, would feel awful that I could not do anything for them. Well going to take a couple of sleep aids and hopefully wake up in the morning and have more energy. Maybe even try to go outside. Thanks to everyone for the support. I really am keeping a positive attitude and am determined to do this. Peace to everyone!
Sorry to hear about your troubles.
All I can add is that things happen for a reason in God's universe. You may want to look around a little as you start back on the road to recovery. You may be at this point for a reason. Not sure. But pray and put trust in God.
Let us know how you are doing!
Rex
All I can add is that things happen for a reason in God's universe. You may want to look around a little as you start back on the road to recovery. You may be at this point for a reason. Not sure. But pray and put trust in God.
Let us know how you are doing!
Rex
Hi,
Thanks for sharing your story. I too am dealing with someone else who is addicted, my husband (to codiene). He is better now. He has been sober for 1 month 7 days today. He went through terrible withdrawals. Nothing one can easily hide that is for sure. He went into rehab for 21 days and is getting out on Tuesday, so i haven't seen many of the changes in his personality, of which i am sure to soon see. Anyways, my point is that i too am seeing this addiction from the onlookers point of view....if that sounds right? I would be interested in knowing what you mean by your sister in law "acting completely different?" Also, when she got out of the hospital...did she come clean about her habit....and if so...did she show any plans of stopping for herself? Also, how long has it been since she got out of the hospital....until this Christmas day thing happened? Because it could be one of two things.....from what i have learned here. 1. She is still on them....and 2. She is going through withdrawal....or sorry 3. From what i have learned...persons who are addicted...have to kinda learn how it is to live a normal life...without the pills. They feel the "normal" we feel when they take the pills.....so in other words, they don't feel right when they are off them....which can be scary, depressing, frustrating. So that could be it. Christmas is a big day....and perhaps it was hard for her to get through....without the pills. Anyways, would be interested in learning more info. about the situation. As i am sure others on this forum would to.
Thanks again,
Catherine :)
Thanks for sharing your story. I too am dealing with someone else who is addicted, my husband (to codiene). He is better now. He has been sober for 1 month 7 days today. He went through terrible withdrawals. Nothing one can easily hide that is for sure. He went into rehab for 21 days and is getting out on Tuesday, so i haven't seen many of the changes in his personality, of which i am sure to soon see. Anyways, my point is that i too am seeing this addiction from the onlookers point of view....if that sounds right? I would be interested in knowing what you mean by your sister in law "acting completely different?" Also, when she got out of the hospital...did she come clean about her habit....and if so...did she show any plans of stopping for herself? Also, how long has it been since she got out of the hospital....until this Christmas day thing happened? Because it could be one of two things.....from what i have learned here. 1. She is still on them....and 2. She is going through withdrawal....or sorry 3. From what i have learned...persons who are addicted...have to kinda learn how it is to live a normal life...without the pills. They feel the "normal" we feel when they take the pills.....so in other words, they don't feel right when they are off them....which can be scary, depressing, frustrating. So that could be it. Christmas is a big day....and perhaps it was hard for her to get through....without the pills. Anyways, would be interested in learning more info. about the situation. As i am sure others on this forum would to.
Thanks again,
Catherine :)
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