detox depression

[engsal]

hi- i,m new to this forum. Can anybody tell me why the depression i feel whilst detoxing from tramadol is so severe when i am prescribed and take regular paxil for depression. I would really appreciate your support

[frosty02631]

I started taking ultram in 1999 - my doctor old me it was a non-narcotic pain releiver than was not addicting - dr's hav no clue - it is now 2007 and i tried many many times to quit - i decided i was going to do it this time and here is something that really really works if you have the REAL WANT to get off them
i started tapering down from 10 ultram per day.  it takes a longtime an LOTS of willpower.  you need to tape down each week by one pill per week.  here is a vitamin cocktail that really helps during the proess:  MORNING:  take 4 500mg L-tyrisine, 1 2 mg copper cap, 1 Bcomplex, 1 400 mf Magnesium, 1 1000mg calcium, 1 15 mg Zinc.  EVENING:  abt 1/2 hr b4 bdtime - take 1 400 mg magnesium, 1 100 mg Niacin, and 1 5-HPT (that contains 100mg of valerian, & 10 mg of B6) the evening cocktail helps you sleep and the magnesium helps the leg pain.  also you should eat 3 meals a day and if possible take a walk (abt 2 miles in the morning) i have also found that a vitamin B-12 patch (you can buy these online - search fo B-12 patch) oncce a week helps with energy levels.
I hope this helps everyone who wants to get off these "non-addivtive" pills.
LOL frosty02631

[wildwoodone]

This is a very old post.  Click on the top to make your own new post and you will get more answers.  I believe it will be easier for you to quit Tramadol than taking Suboxone and having to get off of it.  My suboxone withdrawals were worse than any other drug withdrawals I had.

[wcgurl]

Does anyone know if suboxone helps with ultram withdrawels? I took ultram for pain for 6 months and now can't get off. I know where to get suboxone and that's why I'm asking. Any info will help!

[Angelchandan]

Hey guys i have been using 7 to 8 Avil 50 mg tablets everyday for last many years. would you please guide me what all can happen as i stop it immediately. my id is ***@****

[frosty02631]

I started taking ultram in 1999 - my doctor old me it was a non-narcotic pain releiver than was not addicting - dr's hav no clue - it is now 2007 and i tried many many times to quit - i decided i was going to do it this time and here is something that really really works if you have the REAL WANT to get off them
i started tapering down from 10 ultram per day.  it takes a longtime an LOTS of willpower.  you need to tape down each week by one pill per week.  here is a vitamin cocktail that really helps during the proess:  MORNING:  take 4 500mg L-tyrisine, 1 2 mg copper cap, 1 Bcomplex, 1 400 mf Magnesium, 1 1000mg calcium, 1 15 mg Zinc.  EVENING:  abt 1/2 hr b4 bdtime - take 1 400 mg magnesium, 1 100 mg Niacin, and 1 5-HPT (that contains 100mg of valerian, & 10 mg of B6) the evening cocktail helps you sleep and the magnesium helps the leg pain.  also you should eat 3 meals a day and if possible take a walk (abt 2 miles in the morning) i have also found that a vitamin B-12 patch (you can buy these online - search fo B-12 patch) oncce a week helps with energy levels.
I hope this helps everyone who wants to get off these "non-addivtive" pills.
LOL frosty02631

[frosty02631]

I started taking ultram in 1999 - my doctor old me it was a non-narcotic pain releiver than was not addicting - dr's hav no clue - it is now 2007 and i tried many many times to quit - i decided i was going to do it this time and here is something that really really works if you have the REAL WANT to get off them
i started tapering down from 10 ultram per day.  it takes a longtime an LOTS of willpower.  you need to tape down each week by one pill per week.  here is a vitamin cocktail that really helps during the proess:  MORNING:  take 4 500mg L-tyrisine, 1 2 mg copper cap, 1 Bcomplex, 1 400 mf Magnesium, 1 1000mg calcium, 1 15 mg Zinc.  EVENING:  abt 1/2 hr b4 bdtime - take 1 400 mg magnesium, 1 100 mg Niacin, and 1 5-HPT (that contains 100mg of valerian, & 10 mg of B6) the evening cocktail helps you sleep and the magnesium helps the leg pain.  also you should eat 3 meals a day and if possible take a walk (abt 2 miles in the morning) i have also found that a vitamin B-12 patch (you can buy these online - search fo B-12 patch) oncce a week helps with energy levels.
I hope this helps everyone who wants to get off these "non-addivtive" pills.
LOL frosty02631

[dandiggler]

its been 7 days since i have took tabs but for that 7 days been taking ultram did i waste my time now i feel like jus taking 50 tabs and forgeting it all

[pepsi4]

Question to all:  Do you want me to use up a "Question Post" and publish the Thomas Recipe (with all disclaimers) so that people can find it using the search function?  I've been debating doing this, as I can almost always post a question -- but I don't want to "use up" a question with the groups approval.  If you think of all of the space that has been used up re-posting the recipe, I think you'll agree it's worth it.  Besides that, we can just  use the rest ot the thread as usual.  I think it would be very helpful having the Thomas recipe available using the simple search function.  Let me know....
Also, I never have had any problems using L-Tryosine and I've taken up to 2000mg at a time.....peace to all and have a great weekend....

[doner]

Yeah its been that long and that bad.Showered for the first time in 4 days(last night actually,just to wash the stink of)The last time I left it was to see the dr. for this problem and had a panic attack in his office.Nurses were freakin and **** that made it worse.Finally the dr.kicked everyone out and lowered the light and I made it through the appt. He gave me paxil YUCK.It caused my migraines to flare.So I have to see him next Friday again. It seems suitable to me that I can stay in til then.My b/f is just freakin out because I shut the shades and keep lights low.He leaves at 8 am to work comes home about 7pm and I havnt moved.The lack of eating is bothering him too.I cant blame him for being aggitated I actually should be grateful as I dont think anyone else would put up with this.This is just how I feel right now and when he threatens to make me move or eat or whatever it makes me want to do it even less.After he starts yelling I just tell him to leave me alone,then he goes in the garage and throws **** for awhile,but at least hes leaving me alone. I feel Ill be ready for my appt. on Friday and thats the best I can offer him.Im just afraid he is truely going to physically force me outside. The thought of it scares the hell out of me.Thanks Amber I can tell that you understand,Melissa

[AmberHunter]

can he do that? do you mean legally? i don't know babe, you have been in the house for 6 weeks? isolating? agoraphobic? what's going on that you have not gone outside for 6 weeks???? it sounds like the dude cares but if you feel terror going outside i don't know what to say... i know how seductive the computer can be as a friend, companion, mother, father, lover etc... but there is this other world that exists outside of your front door, maybe you might want to check it out? if you really can't get yourself to do it you have some decisions to make. keep us posted, i didn't know you had been inside this long. i have been there melissa, to the point of not even showering for two, three days at a time. not a healthy way to live.

love,

amber

[doner]

Morning all(I guess I slept in)No one posted a qustion but of course I have one.Everyone has heard me whine about my crazy depression(you've all been great)but promise to push it off on someone else from here out as it takes up too much space for words that dont help anybody.Anyway question: I have had desperate fear of leaving the house for about 6 wks.When I woke up today my b/f had the kids at with a sitter and told me I WAS coming out today and hes taking the computer for a few days.Can he do that?Is that support or furious rage.Im crying that I dont want to go but he says its for my own good and I need to get out.I told him to F off aqnd locked the door to this room.But Ill have to pee sometime.Can he make me leave,I guess the question is:Is he really trying to help?Anyone else ever been in a situation like this?Input would be super right now.Thanks Doner

[bmac]

Hey Babe I ain't gone nowhere! I was watching you! I know the feeling of being in the office and knowing how and what to say. I have been lucky over all these years to be able to express my thougths enough so a doc can believe me when I tell him I need something. It also got me strungout a few times too. You did good Amber, that was a tuff thing to do! Love ya, Bill

[AmberHunter]

jack, hang in there dude, some days are just ****... they just are. but it does get better. i hope that you are feeling a little better now. and congrats on 19 days, that is huge!

and welcome to engsal and skata and anyone else new. i have been board hopping and haven't been posting much here. bad amber!!

i went to the docs yesterday for a check up and i managed to get through a 30 minute visit with only obsessing about asking for narcotics for about 15 minutes of the visit, at which time my blood pressure started to rise, i felt warm, the anticipation of how i was going to go about getting more pills from him was intense for a moment there... so creepy! but as i watched myself go from feeling nice and mellow to feeling all dope-finey i thought to myself, "self, is it really worth it?" and i was able to just surf that urge to drug seek at the doctors. and he is a relatively new doc and i haven't asked for anything in a long time so i figured he would be easy to make. i even feel bad about posting about it on here. and i like him so much i want to keep him as a doctor and i don't want to lose his respect or lose respect for myself either.

as far as ultram goes, i have said it before and i will say it again... i am so thankful that i didn't get any kind of buzz on ultram... i did have withdrawl after taking them once for only two weeks and was shocked at how bad i felt. so i can only imagine what taking them for a few years and coming off of them would be like.

well, i have rambled long enough here! hey bill!! haven't heard from you in awhile!!! lol!!

peace,

amber

[terter]

I live in the bay area also but farther south, and yes the fog makes it cool here but I also seem to get cold all the time, I think it has to do with the no energy thing, when we get up and start moving it warms us up, but everytime I went through w/d I would get the chills during the day and sweats at nite. TERRI

[bmac]

You are really gonna give Thomas the big head now. We will never get him to come down now, thanks! You do what you wanna around here and if anybody doesn't like it, give them my email address, it's posted all over the forum like 'The Recipe' LOL  I still take some of the ingredients and it has been since last August I started it. I have lost 42 lbs and feel much better. Alots of energy. But displaying it at the top will cause Thomas to start posting really intellegent posts again and God it is Saturday, give me a break! JK Thomas. Peace!
             Bmac

[terter]

I had a similar thing happen, I didn't have a problem going out but I didn't have energy to do or go anywhere, but the computer thing-- I don't stay on the computer but I check this site through out the day. My husband doesn't understand what this site does for an addict, We come here for support,the feeling of not being the only one to go through this. Questions which have helped me a lot- and to help others b/c it makes us feel good. Maybe you should try to get out but make him promise if you start feeling terrible that he'll take you home, Explain you need the companionship of others who understand what your going through so I will continue with the computer. Getting better is a priority but a lil compromise doesn't hurt. Just a thought- Good luck. Terri

[rush2danger]

thanks for the advice about the l-tyrosine/b6/5htp cocktail.. i'll try that tomarrow..
which will be day 7.. i think..
until i found this forum i had no idea how real the depression i had was, or how much the oc's caused it.
i came on here looking for the "painless kick", but am now better off to hear some truth from experienced people.
it's so sad how i used to ride my bike 30-100 miles and now i can't even find the energy to inflate the tires.
anyone else feel cold all the time?
i live in SF, and i know it's chilly here, but i know this is oc derived.. almost as bad as the depression..feeling cold all the time.. really keeps me locked up in the house.

[bmac]

Pervert? Old? What guy have you been talkin' to? And yes you are right, I walk the walk LOL  Find Snood and download it and play it, it will drive you crazy, well you know?
I play spidersolitiare and snood. I take morphine, I nod!
Why are you two or three or four still up at this time of the morning? Come on babes, cat gotcha tounge? LOL JK  Bill

[lisabet]

Billy - you big baby!!!!  You really talk the talk (but can you walk the walk?)...smile   JK---I'm glad you're starting to feel better...sounds like you've really been through it this week - hope you're doing better; I was worried about ya!  You always make me smile, and I thank you for that.  Hugs and kisses to ya, you old pervie you...smile..xoxoxo
Jerri - have you tried "freecell"?  That will really keep you occupied for a long time; that or minesweeper!!! (I'm such a "doof" that it took me 5 years to actually understand that one....smile)....but if you're looking for distraction, that's the one to try!  Again, I'm so happy for you; I know you've relasped lots of times (like myself), so just take it a day at a time.  You're doing a hell of a lot better than myself....I'm so happy for ya!  You're such a good person and you deserve it!  Love to you all, Lisabet

[bmac]

When you decide to stop taking them please do it with the help of a doctor or it will hurt. I am a Chronic Pain patient from low back surgery and I have tried to be straight, it hurt!      I won't do it again. LOL  Good luck!  Bmac

[bryan25503]

Skata,What are some of the non-narcotic ways to releive pain?? I have been on Fiorinal #3 for 5 years for serve back pain because of a back injury and nerve damage. I have been to pain clinics and had the steriod injections done and no releif. I want to get off the pain medication, I dont think at this time I am addicited because I take the medication only for pain and that is the only reason, but when I have kids one day I would love to run and play with them without having so much back pain, the doctor I seen today is sending me to a surgeon to see if surgery is needed or possibly putting in a pain pump, I am so tired of taking medication to get rid of the pain on a daily basis. I dont mean to put you on the spot, but I was just wondering if you knew of something new or different I havent tried, thanks for your time.

[bmac]

Are U asking me Pheggie101? If so, carify. 'just curious'
Hey babes I am feeling a ton better than Tuesday and I hope by Monday I'll be out of traction! LOL Mind traction that is! Hearts on the computer, hey Doll I can give ya sumpin better than that to do(notice right there I could have said something else but I didn't) You are welcome!  Bill

[Jerri2]

lisabet,I'm doing good so far!Some ups and downs but not to bad!How are you doing sweetie?I still feel like I'm speeding half the time.But dont have any energy to do anything!But I force myself to stay active.And dont listen to my thoughts how if you only take one it will be alright!NOT THIS TIME BUBS!!!!Love ya sweetie!!  Bill,If I tell em to shut the f up they might ban me!!Besides its entertaining sometimes!!I've been playing hearts on the computer alot to keep me busy!I lose most of the time but its something to do when know ones around to post to!!Love to ya sweet thang!!Jerri

[pheggie101]

just cause.......why is that