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ecstacy-lsd neurotoxicity?
Hi,
a little background information about myself is i am 21, and used to party quite often. between the ages of 17-21 I did 150-200 hits of lsd, and 20 pills of ex. Last year while still in the full swing of ex. (had quit lsd), i noticed my brain was no longer functioning (lack of coordination, anxiety, detatched) yet stupid me kept right on going until I overdosed on ex. (3 pills in 3 hour span). I had a bad trip including hallucination, etc. This happened 8 mos. ago. I have been clean since then (sad that it took the fist of god slapping me up to do it), but my symptoms of brain retardation have gotten worse. I am on paxil for an anxiety dissorder, but it has not really helped the lack of mental sharpness. I recently heard of something called neural toxicity dissorder or hallucinagenic toxicity dissorder, and i would like to know how i get diagnosed with it, and if it is treatable. I am also dealing with depression mainly due to the fact that i screwed myself royally, and just want to know, is there any way i can fix what i've done? will my brain ever recover from the damage i've done to it? are there any tests i can have done to gauge the toxicity of my brain? What can i do to get the toxins to leave my body?
thanks,
matt
a little background information about myself is i am 21, and used to party quite often. between the ages of 17-21 I did 150-200 hits of lsd, and 20 pills of ex. Last year while still in the full swing of ex. (had quit lsd), i noticed my brain was no longer functioning (lack of coordination, anxiety, detatched) yet stupid me kept right on going until I overdosed on ex. (3 pills in 3 hour span). I had a bad trip including hallucination, etc. This happened 8 mos. ago. I have been clean since then (sad that it took the fist of god slapping me up to do it), but my symptoms of brain retardation have gotten worse. I am on paxil for an anxiety dissorder, but it has not really helped the lack of mental sharpness. I recently heard of something called neural toxicity dissorder or hallucinagenic toxicity dissorder, and i would like to know how i get diagnosed with it, and if it is treatable. I am also dealing with depression mainly due to the fact that i screwed myself royally, and just want to know, is there any way i can fix what i've done? will my brain ever recover from the damage i've done to it? are there any tests i can have done to gauge the toxicity of my brain? What can i do to get the toxins to leave my body?
thanks,
matt
Im 21, and recently got involved with weekend drug use mainly ex. I live in a fairly small town in Australia but the pills still get around. I've done it probably no more than 10 times and dont feel as though its had long term side effects. However studies show it does... so my view is that life has consequences, and our job as human beings is to learn from our mistakes. You have one body, soul and mind so use that for acheiving your passion and you will feel good, chemical imbalance is one thing but it can be overcome through the power of the mind. dream believe achieve.
This post is old - I don't understand how anyone could read these and still take X. I am one of the 60's hippies and you people havent found anything new...we had MDA and MMDA also.
Jeez - I remain speechless. You folks have no grasp of spelling or grammer and even less grasp of chemicals and their affect on the brain. I hope that there is something that someone can do for you........good luck
Jeez - I remain speechless. You folks have no grasp of spelling or grammer and even less grasp of chemicals and their affect on the brain. I hope that there is something that someone can do for you........good luck
it's not meant to be a product plug, i am mid twenties humble artist making very slow money and staying out of trouble. I am trying to cultivate the discipline and responsibility necessary for successful accreditation in school, and for the first time in my life, after a year of very expensive exploring of these nootropics and matching them up with my official ADD treatment, i am getting to the point where it's now a matter of preparing a space with which to study in, as well as a matter of preparing and solidifying successful study and production habits. Whereas before this point of accomplishment it was getting the wild party party recklessness under control!
(thankfully- i think maybe due to my undying optimism and infinite loving exuberance for life that i see as my most important constant obligation to consciously cultivate every moment, thankful to that constant thinking about finding the happy in everything, perhaps i have avoided the pitfalls of sinking depression that many folks who binged on ecstasy tabs and powders get into, and thankfully i shy very much away from ssri stuff. instead i intermittently take "mellow"tonin because otherwise i have sometimes very bad druginduced insomnia, and also because it helps to make more neurotransmitters maybe. i read that somewhere anyways, but don't take my word for it.)
anyways, i don't want to find out if i can afford to spend a lot of time prettying up this post, i just want it out there, i think it's got the essentials of getting some points across. LOVE!
(thankfully- i think maybe due to my undying optimism and infinite loving exuberance for life that i see as my most important constant obligation to consciously cultivate every moment, thankful to that constant thinking about finding the happy in everything, perhaps i have avoided the pitfalls of sinking depression that many folks who binged on ecstasy tabs and powders get into, and thankfully i shy very much away from ssri stuff. instead i intermittently take "mellow"tonin because otherwise i have sometimes very bad druginduced insomnia, and also because it helps to make more neurotransmitters maybe. i read that somewhere anyways, but don't take my word for it.)
anyways, i don't want to find out if i can afford to spend a lot of time prettying up this post, i just want it out there, i think it's got the essentials of getting some points across. LOVE!
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Absolutely have changed my life in ways that I feel are good. Seeing as old as this thread is, i will save you the account of my extensive drug use, although fairly constant, i did not do as much as others have at one time. I am sensitive enough that i usually broke pills apart to find out what a crumble would do before using a whole pill.
For the memory deficits and depression, research Nootropics. Better than ex, with generally no known toxicities for many substances. savor every glance every moment, every day. it's the greatest responsibility you have to yourself to love yourself and to love. Don't forget about that. take care...;)
Absolutely have changed my life in ways that I feel are good. Seeing as old as this thread is, i will save you the account of my extensive drug use, although fairly constant, i did not do as much as others have at one time. I am sensitive enough that i usually broke pills apart to find out what a crumble would do before using a whole pill.
For the memory deficits and depression, research Nootropics. Better than ex, with generally no known toxicities for many substances. savor every glance every moment, every day. it's the greatest responsibility you have to yourself to love yourself and to love. Don't forget about that. take care...;)
You need to start a new post. The thread you posted to is old. If you start a new one the post will be dedicated to you. Many times if you post to a old thread it will get overlooked . At the top of this page click on "post a question". Just copy and paste your post from here to the new one. There are so many wonderful people on her that will help you through this. I wish I could help but have no knowledge on extasy. Best of luck to you!
Hey guys. I have been using ex for the last 7 years. Since I v only came to US in 99 when I was 18, I didn't know anything about this drug & when I took it the 1st time I liked it so much, that for the next month I took ex everyday, during the day 3-6 pills a day(shame on me, I v spent a couple years in medical college in. Russia, and should have known better). The first time I didn't take it for 2 days, I practically "lost myself"! I couldn't think, thought that someone was after me etc. I realized that this may be caused by my constant ex use & quickly found 1 pill. Almost in 1 hour all the bad feelings were gone.
Within next 3 years I have done ex 3-4 times a week. Sometimes I took a few month off, when I was getting tired I'd going out and sleepless nights. About 2 weeks before each break, I started deacresing the amount of ex I took every day (for about 4 days, than i would take it every other day (1 or 2 pills) for about 4 days ( 2 days of taking it), than I would stop completely and do 1 pill st the end of a 2 week period to finish. This allowed me to almost completely eliminate the very unpleasnt symptoms. As far as depression and anxiety, you. HAVE to tell yourself that It is an illusion caused by the serotonin deficit in your brain. Believe me, it goes away! You have to remember, you CAN control your emotion,and therefore, you may induce the production of serotonin!
All other symptoms do go away! I an a chronic ex user. I may not do it for 3-6 month, sometimes a year, than start doing it every day for a month( sometimes doing 20 pils a day!) during the day, during work. I stop ( I can or let's say want to do ex for 2 weeks( that's how long I actually enjoy it. Than I start getting depressed when I do it( after I take it, I don't wanna do anything( please notice, I DID NOT feel like that between the intakes of the drug. Only when I took it)
When I start feeling like that: I start detoxing: pretty much the same way I did it the first time.
Its very rear when I feel depressed or lost during my clean time( usually when there was something to be depressed about).If at any time I would feel depression coming on recently after I would detox, I would analyze my life situation and how I would take if I wouldn't eat 200 ex a few week before. If i understand that situation is not too bad and I an sad for nothing, it would REALLY help! I strongly advise anyone who is trying to quit ex and is afraid of depression and thinking that you ****** yourself up( don't ever think like that! You ARE ALIFE! THANK GOD for that! I am absolutely seriuos! People who may never do drugs get killed or die of accident, or have a heart attack every day! You are still here! So stop wyningand pull yourself together! You will get over it!
The ONLY sideaffect I deal with, that I get a feeling I can only describe as "brain tingling" or sometimes " hit in the brain. But this goes away too! I do forget things sometomes, but I was always like that... Even before I tried ex.
I am not saying that ex is ok, all I m trying to do, is to give hope to pepple, who think that they killed themselves and who are depressed, not because they have real life problemms, nut because of chemical reaction! You will be allright!
Within next 3 years I have done ex 3-4 times a week. Sometimes I took a few month off, when I was getting tired I'd going out and sleepless nights. About 2 weeks before each break, I started deacresing the amount of ex I took every day (for about 4 days, than i would take it every other day (1 or 2 pills) for about 4 days ( 2 days of taking it), than I would stop completely and do 1 pill st the end of a 2 week period to finish. This allowed me to almost completely eliminate the very unpleasnt symptoms. As far as depression and anxiety, you. HAVE to tell yourself that It is an illusion caused by the serotonin deficit in your brain. Believe me, it goes away! You have to remember, you CAN control your emotion,and therefore, you may induce the production of serotonin!
All other symptoms do go away! I an a chronic ex user. I may not do it for 3-6 month, sometimes a year, than start doing it every day for a month( sometimes doing 20 pils a day!) during the day, during work. I stop ( I can or let's say want to do ex for 2 weeks( that's how long I actually enjoy it. Than I start getting depressed when I do it( after I take it, I don't wanna do anything( please notice, I DID NOT feel like that between the intakes of the drug. Only when I took it)
When I start feeling like that: I start detoxing: pretty much the same way I did it the first time.
Its very rear when I feel depressed or lost during my clean time( usually when there was something to be depressed about).If at any time I would feel depression coming on recently after I would detox, I would analyze my life situation and how I would take if I wouldn't eat 200 ex a few week before. If i understand that situation is not too bad and I an sad for nothing, it would REALLY help! I strongly advise anyone who is trying to quit ex and is afraid of depression and thinking that you ****** yourself up( don't ever think like that! You ARE ALIFE! THANK GOD for that! I am absolutely seriuos! People who may never do drugs get killed or die of accident, or have a heart attack every day! You are still here! So stop wyningand pull yourself together! You will get over it!
The ONLY sideaffect I deal with, that I get a feeling I can only describe as "brain tingling" or sometimes " hit in the brain. But this goes away too! I do forget things sometomes, but I was always like that... Even before I tried ex.
I am not saying that ex is ok, all I m trying to do, is to give hope to pepple, who think that they killed themselves and who are depressed, not because they have real life problemms, nut because of chemical reaction! You will be allright!
I have a problem with mdma and mda usage which im trying to cut down slowly. My motorskills when im not on it are terrible, im a psychological wreck.
I'm not advertising exctacy and telling you that you have to try something different, but the only way you can get into serious trouble hasnt got what its claimed to have. Research it before you take it, check pill testing forums, or even test the pills yourself if you feel you really want to do it. TRUST me i understand!
I was an occasional user once every 2 weeks, and then came the summer. Unfortunately I live in a europeans summer destination, so partying is constant in the summer. I took easily 4-5 pills weekly, and i considered it lightweight compared to others.
Its not a kind of addiction you really care to acknowlage but its there! You cant stop thinking about it, its all thats on your mind! You just want to be free again, but at the same time you can see you're a wreck, but dont believe it.
I'm cutting down bit by bit. I dont go out as much, i have friends who are trying to stay clean with me, getting a girlfriend or boyfriend to help you keep your mind off it is a good thing to have, especially if they know and can feel what kind of mental chaos you're going through, especially emotionally.
Just look at the regular users, and you'll see what you dont want to be. Its fun, but its not the kind of fun you mess with. The addiction isnt really physical as such like heroin, but its mental, and in some corner of your mind there is always the temptation of doing it again for the love. Once it becomes routine and something not exciting and new to you, its already deeply settled and its roots have grown.
Kill the stigma while its still young, or else there will always be that chance.
I'm not advertising exctacy and telling you that you have to try something different, but the only way you can get into serious trouble hasnt got what its claimed to have. Research it before you take it, check pill testing forums, or even test the pills yourself if you feel you really want to do it. TRUST me i understand!
I was an occasional user once every 2 weeks, and then came the summer. Unfortunately I live in a europeans summer destination, so partying is constant in the summer. I took easily 4-5 pills weekly, and i considered it lightweight compared to others.
Its not a kind of addiction you really care to acknowlage but its there! You cant stop thinking about it, its all thats on your mind! You just want to be free again, but at the same time you can see you're a wreck, but dont believe it.
I'm cutting down bit by bit. I dont go out as much, i have friends who are trying to stay clean with me, getting a girlfriend or boyfriend to help you keep your mind off it is a good thing to have, especially if they know and can feel what kind of mental chaos you're going through, especially emotionally.
Just look at the regular users, and you'll see what you dont want to be. Its fun, but its not the kind of fun you mess with. The addiction isnt really physical as such like heroin, but its mental, and in some corner of your mind there is always the temptation of doing it again for the love. Once it becomes routine and something not exciting and new to you, its already deeply settled and its roots have grown.
Kill the stigma while its still young, or else there will always be that chance.
I am 20 years old, and have been takeing Ecstacy for the last two years.
I was introduced to the drug by my once best friend, who is very knoledgable and experianced in this field.
he aint stupid, he knows his stuff. and being my best friend, tought me all he knows about what to do, and what not to do.
now just for the record, me and my friend only do E' as a recreational thing, as an extra little head fu*k to get you that little bit more high on a sataday night.
E brings out an inner love with some people, they become the most charming adorable and reliable person, they become an angel to some, and a joke to others. I am one of these people, the drug affects me always in a good way.
Alchole only goes so far, and dam it...its so expensive....
I advize that you only EVER buy E from someone you know and trust, if you can maintain this rule, then it is more likely that you wont end up with a set om smacky pills that will really mess you up.
We have always said that to take drugs of any kind you must possess one major thing, that being a "strong personality"
niether myself, or any of our "group" have ever seen or had a bad experiance due to takeing E's.
Although I do know of one person who becomes extremely paranoid and belives that people are trying to kill him !
Hold and retain a certain amount of respect for drugs, and your use of them will hopefully be a good experiance.
However, I myself have started to become a little depressed, I feal I have lost job's over my "mental attitude" and sometimes feal that this is due to overdoing E's.
Furthermore my once best friend and myself have become very distant, he thinks I have changed for the worse, and has told me to go see a doctor and ask for some Anti-depressants.
Its ironic really, I feal that he helped to create this "monster" and cant look back and think
"I created him".
never again will we ride a high together, our days of living life to the max are over.
Slowly but surely I will grow out of this god forsaken drug,
even now I write this with a clammy sweat from the night before.
For all of you that are thinking of trying Ecstacy I suggest NO,
"it is the cause of, and solution to old my problems" :)
Peace, Love , Empathy
-Matt-
I was introduced to the drug by my once best friend, who is very knoledgable and experianced in this field.
he aint stupid, he knows his stuff. and being my best friend, tought me all he knows about what to do, and what not to do.
now just for the record, me and my friend only do E' as a recreational thing, as an extra little head fu*k to get you that little bit more high on a sataday night.
E brings out an inner love with some people, they become the most charming adorable and reliable person, they become an angel to some, and a joke to others. I am one of these people, the drug affects me always in a good way.
Alchole only goes so far, and dam it...its so expensive....
I advize that you only EVER buy E from someone you know and trust, if you can maintain this rule, then it is more likely that you wont end up with a set om smacky pills that will really mess you up.
We have always said that to take drugs of any kind you must possess one major thing, that being a "strong personality"
niether myself, or any of our "group" have ever seen or had a bad experiance due to takeing E's.
Although I do know of one person who becomes extremely paranoid and belives that people are trying to kill him !
Hold and retain a certain amount of respect for drugs, and your use of them will hopefully be a good experiance.
However, I myself have started to become a little depressed, I feal I have lost job's over my "mental attitude" and sometimes feal that this is due to overdoing E's.
Furthermore my once best friend and myself have become very distant, he thinks I have changed for the worse, and has told me to go see a doctor and ask for some Anti-depressants.
Its ironic really, I feal that he helped to create this "monster" and cant look back and think
"I created him".
never again will we ride a high together, our days of living life to the max are over.
Slowly but surely I will grow out of this god forsaken drug,
even now I write this with a clammy sweat from the night before.
For all of you that are thinking of trying Ecstacy I suggest NO,
"it is the cause of, and solution to old my problems" :)
Peace, Love , Empathy
-Matt-
I am 20 years old, and have been takeing Ecstacy for the last two years.
I was introduced to the drug by my once best friend, who is very knoledgable and experianced in this field.
he aint stupid, he knows his stuff. and being my best friend, tought me all he knows about what to do, and what not to do.
now just for the record, me and my friend only do E' as a recreational thing, as an extra little head fu*k to get you that little bit more high on a sataday night.
E brings out an inner love with some people, they become the most charming adorable and reliable person, they become an angel to some, and a joke to others. I am one of these people, the drug affects me always in a good way.
Alchole only goes so far, and dam it...its so expensive....
I advize that you only EVER buy E from someone you know and trust, if you can maintain this rule, then it is more likely that you wont end up with a set om smacky pills that will really mess you up.
We have always said that to take drugs of any kind you must possess one major thing, that being a "strong personality"
niether myself, or any of our "group" have ever seen or had a bad experiance due to takeing E's.
Although I do know of one person who becomes extremely paranoid and belives that people are trying to kill him !
Hold and retain a certain amount of respect for drugs, and your use of them will hopefully be a good experiance.
However, I myself have started to become a little depressed, I feal I have lost job's over my "mental attitude" and sometimes feal that this is due to overdoing E's.
Furthermore my once best friend and myself have become very distant, he thinks I have changed for the worse, and has told me to go see a doctor and ask for some Anti-depressants.
Its ironic really, I feal that he helped to create this "monster" and cant look back and think
"I created him".
never again will we ride a high together, our days of living life to the max are over.
Slowly but surely I will grow out of this god forsaken drug,
even now I write this with a clammy sweat from the night before.
For all of you that are thinking of trying Ecstacy I suggest NO,
"it is the cause of, and solution to old my problems" :)
Peace, Love , Empathy
-Matt-
I was introduced to the drug by my once best friend, who is very knoledgable and experianced in this field.
he aint stupid, he knows his stuff. and being my best friend, tought me all he knows about what to do, and what not to do.
now just for the record, me and my friend only do E' as a recreational thing, as an extra little head fu*k to get you that little bit more high on a sataday night.
E brings out an inner love with some people, they become the most charming adorable and reliable person, they become an angel to some, and a joke to others. I am one of these people, the drug affects me always in a good way.
Alchole only goes so far, and dam it...its so expensive....
I advize that you only EVER buy E from someone you know and trust, if you can maintain this rule, then it is more likely that you wont end up with a set om smacky pills that will really mess you up.
We have always said that to take drugs of any kind you must possess one major thing, that being a "strong personality"
niether myself, or any of our "group" have ever seen or had a bad experiance due to takeing E's.
Although I do know of one person who becomes extremely paranoid and belives that people are trying to kill him !
Hold and retain a certain amount of respect for drugs, and your use of them will hopefully be a good experiance.
However, I myself have started to become a little depressed, I feal I have lost job's over my "mental attitude" and sometimes feal that this is due to overdoing E's.
Furthermore my once best friend and myself have become very distant, he thinks I have changed for the worse, and has told me to go see a doctor and ask for some Anti-depressants.
Its ironic really, I feal that he helped to create this "monster" and cant look back and think
"I created him".
never again will we ride a high together, our days of living life to the max are over.
Slowly but surely I will grow out of this god forsaken drug,
even now I write this with a clammy sweat from the night before.
For all of you that are thinking of trying Ecstacy I suggest NO,
"it is the cause of, and solution to old my problems" :)
Peace, Love , Empathy
-Matt-
Please bear in mind that this forum are for people who suffer from various and sundry problems related to addiction- your comment to Matt is neither wanted or warranted- I see no helpfulness offered here and simply ask that you refrain from meaningless comments and sarcasm- if you must practice a sadistic and unkind line of thought- please take it elsewhere. If you have questions, problems with your own addiction, or constructive comments- then the kind folks in this forum will be very quick indeed in offering advice and companionship.
Well, matt, your ******. You cant do anything to help yourself. you are going to die. goodbye.
In '95 I started taking X on the weekends at the clubs in NYC and the Hamptons. Over the next two years I increased my doses to 4-8 hits in a single night. Needless to say I paid the price. I over dosed on MDMA in Aug '97. The emotional trauma I suffered was so severe that I still get flash backs. Over the next 3 years I would suffer terrible panic attacks and flashbacks at unpredicable moments. It felt like I was going crazy along with the emense energy consumtion of guilt and regret of knowing you @#%$! yourself up.Though in time these symptoms have slowly gone away, I still suffer from impaired memory loss. Im 35 now and its difficult to keep my proffessional job. My fellow workers think Im dumb because I repeatedly forget and have trouble understanding oral tasks. I try to compensate by writting everything down. Im glad that forgetfulness is the worst of my problems. X is the best high to have but dont ever hurt yourself. There are extremely disturbing emotions that a mature adult cant handle let alone an immature young person. These feelings of life & death stick with you and change you forever like it has me. Its a reality I hide from everyone because they could never understand. If I didnt have a strong belief in god I would probably have blown my brains out by know. Dont make the same mistake.
In '95 I started taking X on the weekends at the clubs in NYC and the Hamptons. Over the next two years I increased my doses to 4-8 hits in a single night. Needless to say I paid the price. I over dosed on MDMA in Aug '97. The emotional trauma I suffered was so severe that I still get flash backs. Over the next 3 years I would suffer terrible panic attacks and flashbacks at unpredicable moments. It felt like I was going crazy along with the emense energy consumtion of guilt and regret of knowing you @#%$! yourself up.Though in time these symptoms have slowly gone away, I still suffer from impaired memory loss. Im 35 now and its difficult to keep my proffessional job. My fellow workers think Im dumb because I repeatedly forget and have trouble understanding oral tasks. I try to compensate by writting everything down. Im glad that forgetfulness is the worst of my problems. X is the best high to have but dont ever hurt yourself. There are extremely disturbing emotions that a mature adult cant handle let alone an immature young person. These feelings of life & death stick with you and change you forever like it has me. Its a reality I hide from everyone because they could never understand. If I didnt have a strong belief in god I would probably have blown my brains out by know. Dont make the same mistake.
My opion of X is.....I feel that x takes you to a point where life is happy & carefree, but when you are not rolling you are actually unhappy. I haven't ever heard of any bad x-tacy exsperiences. But I am sure that any drug can have it's bad side affects. That's to be exspected. But with all the myths about this drug & many others are some so sure that it isn't just all in someones mind that they have such exsperiences?Marijuana has it's bad effects if you let yourself think that actually you are having a bad expserience.So that is my thery.But just like any drug to much sometimes is enough. I have social disorder problems & I have bad nerves, but extacy puts me back into that place that I feel from a long time ago.
Im 20 years old and did ecstacy probly about 13 pills of ecstacy in about 6 sesssions total. Thats it. On my last or second last time doing it I had a massive panic/anxiety attack, near hallucinations, tracers, ect, my mind was racing and would not stop, you could even say it was a psychotic episode. Ever since ive used E it feels like htere is a big void in my mind and my old self died, my emotions are tiny and dipped in anxiety. Im apathetic, slightly paranoid and have confused thoughts. Often old dreams that I forgot about just come out of nowhere like a perfect picture qnd the feelins assosiated with them from years ago just pop into my head, completly unrelated to what I was thinking or doing, its said that seritonin affects your sleep.
My life has been cripppled becuase my heart is gone and I cannot even comprehend what ive lost becuase I cannot comprehend those days before, that is the severity of e and what it can do to your brain, I think sertain personality types are affected way more. I was a introspective known for my compassion and understanding type, and now its a struggle every day. You go into using ecstacy looking for love but you end up loosing it, the drug should be called living hell. When you take it you attack your very being.
My life has been cripppled becuase my heart is gone and I cannot even comprehend what ive lost becuase I cannot comprehend those days before, that is the severity of e and what it can do to your brain, I think sertain personality types are affected way more. I was a introspective known for my compassion and understanding type, and now its a struggle every day. You go into using ecstacy looking for love but you end up loosing it, the drug should be called living hell. When you take it you attack your very being.
I too have taken over 200+ hits of X and love the drug and now I take alot of Paxil. Maybe there is a connection.
The selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI's - prozac, zoloft, paxil, etc.) have been shown to cause serotonin receptors to dissapear. A study showed a 60% decline in a study of patients on SSRI's for 2 years. (Source: talking back to prozac - tape set.)
I'm not saying that ecstacy is OK, but any X that puts you in the hospital is almost guarranteed to be the stuff in cough syrup that fools use to get "high" on. You can drink a bottle of robitussin and hallucinate...I don't know the exact name of the drug...but most ER visits from E turn out to be because the pill was this drug, not MDMA. Check the "ecstacy" issue of "TIME" for details
neurotoxicity is brain damage. MDMA (ecstacy), is in a way programmed to kill 5HT (seratonin) cells. These cells controll mood, anxiety levels, sleep, eating ...... Thses are very very important cells that you have killed. In studies with primates, there is some recovery from the cell death, but limited. I am in the same shoes you are in. I did a bunch of E in high school and my first year of college, but then i read about, and started doing experiments with MDMA at UCLA and realized what a dangerous drug ex really is.
There is also damage done to dopamine cells, wich may lead to parkinsonian type symptoms.
I wish us all luck,.....
take the medicines that increase the amount of 5HT present in your brain and you should be better.
sorry i have nothing good to say, but this is some serious chemical with programmed cell death, not to mention the dozens of other things it does to you.
There is also damage done to dopamine cells, wich may lead to parkinsonian type symptoms.
I wish us all luck,.....
take the medicines that increase the amount of 5HT present in your brain and you should be better.
sorry i have nothing good to say, but this is some serious chemical with programmed cell death, not to mention the dozens of other things it does to you.
neurotoxicity is brain damage. MDMA (ecstacy), is in a way programmed to kill 5HT (seratonin) cells. These cells controll mood, anxiety levels, sleep, eating ...... Thses are very very important cells that you have killed. In studies with primates, there is some recovery from the cell death, but limited. I am in the same shoes you are in. I did a bunch of E in high school and my first year of college, but then i read about, and started doing experiments with MDMA at UCLA and realized what a dangerous drug ex really is.
There is also damage done to dopamine cells, wich may lead to parkinsonian type symptoms.
I wish us all luck,.....
take the medicines that increase the amount of 5HT present in your brain and you should be better.
sorry i have nothing good to say, but this is some serious chemical with programmed cell death, not to mention the dozens of other things it does to you.
There is also damage done to dopamine cells, wich may lead to parkinsonian type symptoms.
I wish us all luck,.....
take the medicines that increase the amount of 5HT present in your brain and you should be better.
sorry i have nothing good to say, but this is some serious chemical with programmed cell death, not to mention the dozens of other things it does to you.
matt,
i'm three years sober, and i can relate a little to your story. My drug of choice was LSD and though i only did it for a few years, i still occassionaly suffer from anxiety and bouts of depression. i am 23 and have been diagnosed with schizophrenic-
affective disorder. i am on zoloft to stabilize my mood. i write because your symptoms sound similar to mine. hope this helps. i will look further into this "brain toxicity disorder".
thanx,
chris!
i'm three years sober, and i can relate a little to your story. My drug of choice was LSD and though i only did it for a few years, i still occassionaly suffer from anxiety and bouts of depression. i am 23 and have been diagnosed with schizophrenic-
affective disorder. i am on zoloft to stabilize my mood. i write because your symptoms sound similar to mine. hope this helps. i will look further into this "brain toxicity disorder".
thanx,
chris!
carli, i've done X a bunch of times and have wound up unimpressed. yeah, it 'feels good', but i've had so many friends with scares and bad nights on X that i am not into it anymore. i am more gentle now.. and appreciating the little things like i used to. i almost felt lost for awhile on drugs, wanting drugs, that VOID sensation without them. i stopped looking at leaves on trees and smiling in the sun. i started forgetting things and feeling dumb. the thought of it being a permanent impairment scared the &^!%!!! out of me. i'm lucky that i had the sense to stop my little rampage. just be gentle.
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