fourth day vicodin detox...invited 2 a meeting

[loveJwhite]

Serendipity? It is my fourth day of going cold turkey off of a rather large vicodin addiction. 7 to 15 7.5mg a day for at least three years. Anyway a former coworker oddly texted me this morning asking if I want to go to an NA meeting TONIGHT at seven....I still, of course feel like I have the CRAZIES. Should I go? Is it too soon. What do I do? I don't feel THAT much different than yesterday yet. Although I did shower and get ready for the day. I guess that's something.

[udoschoices]

thanks gnarly - i appreciate it!  It is always good to hear from people that have been there as well as loveJ who is going through it also...

[loveJwhite]

I WAS up at 3 in the morning gnarly-but I didn't think anyone else would be too, so I didn't bother to get on the computer...I did sleep GOOD from about 5 to 9, so that is something. Now I know to hop on here if it is crazy o'clock in the morning. Thank you for the encouragement...I am going to a meeting on Tuesday night at seven. I promised my friend I would go with her. I haven't taken any L-tyrosine today and I now see that its a good thing, made me so shaky...or maybe that was just days 1 thru 4 of withdrawals...I hope I never have to find out again, so I may never know. Feeling pretty good today. Thank you all!

[gnarly_1]

HI just wanted to take a minute and welcome the 2 of you to the forum....im glad you guys found each other its great to have a ''getting clean partner" I have developed many good friendships here...the main reason Im posting this is just to encourage you guys/gals to keep pushing forward your still going threw the ruff stages of this it will get ezer ..I alway try to post one of these so if your up and its 3 in the morning just know it will get better with time  sleep is hard to come by....I really hope you dont read this till morning im having a bit of trouble sleeping myself tonight but if your up there will be something positive for you to read
going to a meeting is a great idea....aftercare is critical to staying clean...right now getting there seams like the hard part but the mental battle of staying clean can be just as challenging pluging into N/A is a great start good luck to the 2 of you I hope you both have successful recoverys..keep posting for support good luck and God bless...Gnarly  

[udoschoices]

yeah, don't swap addictions. Been there, done that. With klonipin/valium/xanax u name it. Getting off benzos can be worse than the opiates due to rebound anxiety that *****. Not fun. Not recommended. If its short term just to get through the first few days, but be careful of continued use and switching to another habit. You are still altering your mind with those pills - which as an addict you can quickly substitute for the other pills you had the original problem with

[vicki595]

Love~  The Ativan is not a horrible idea,it's just not a good one in my opinion. I think Ativan is harsh. If you need it for a couple of days,I'd say take the lowest amount. It will help with anxiety and once it does,toss it.     It's a "benzo" as you know. Just be aware of cross addiction...

[loveJwhite]

No one said anything about the ativan I have available....I'm wanting to know if it is a horrible idea.

[udoschoices]

thats one good thing i noticed about this board vs the NA meetings - people on here know EXACTLY how each other feel or are doing and going through the same things... not the same i found as going to a NA meeting. Not saying they are bad, just so much easier to relate to someone who is also on day 4/5/6 whatever of detox or clean and just went through the same thing you did.   We are all the same - i'm a normal guy with a few degrees and own my own business with a 4.5 yo daughter, but pills got me. Nobody is immune

hang in there, we'll all be better together!

[loveJwhite]

I can't believe how many people have such trouble with pills....they are the devil I swear. I didn't think I was the addictive type. But I now know very different. My life has revolved around them for too long. I even quit my job because where I worked they were so available. It is wild to me. It is equally wild that there are people here EXACTLY where I am at this very moment. The world is so much bigger than we think. You guys rule....

[laurel453]

yeah, those aminos don't have an accumulative effect... just for the day

[loveJwhite]

Yeah. I'm missing a sense of calm. Its very frustrating.

[vicki595]

Hey..it will pass...I'm sure it's the L-t. Just keep drinking. You'll feel better tomorrow. Yes! You will!

[loveJwhite]

Pleeease don't apologize udoschoices. I love all the writing.

[udoschoices]

dang i didnt know that i was popping those l-tyrosine like crazy and wondering why i was so damn jittery - then drinking coffee and felt like i was going to pop out of my skin!  so i stopped taking everything but multivitamin...   I am eating well and hopping on my exercise bike myself now (not trying to take over your post loveJ, something we should both need to know / do! )

[loveJwhite]

Even typing this is hard. I hate having shaky hands. I hate that I don't have energy to do anything really, but I feel speedy at the same time? God-what is that? Someone tell me that day 5 is just a tiny tiny bit better. I don't want a miracle, just a tiny bit better.

[vicki595]

Yes! The L-t will make you feel awful sometimes. Drink a lot of water and juices. Mag and calcium help the shaky feeling and Vit C. Be sure to eat well.
xo

[loveJwhite]

Thank you guys for such quick responses. Makes me feel somewhat better actually. Like I'm not the only one in the world dealing with stuff like this. Usdoschoices-we will make it to day 5! Cpdave-thank you :)

[udoschoices]

i say go for it. I'm on day 4 also and just got back from one. Anything to make sure you quit for good will help! If that one doesnt work for you, try another one..

all the best, i'm right here with ya!

[cpdave]

I no that for me when I quit I was amazed at how well I could function on what I thought was very little sleep a couple hours here and there and I found my sleep pattern had changed I now only get 4 to 6 hours a night well before my surgery and apperantly that is all my body needs.Good Luck and God Bless btw 4 days is awsome u r my hero and anyone that decides to quit automatically becomes my hero if normal people only new how hard quitting was they would have a whole new respect for addicts

[loveJwhite]

Aha! I won't take anymore L-tyrosine....maybe I will feel better tomorrow..I feel like I've been saying that for days now.

[laurel453]

i would not take the ltyrosine until a week or so... i mean, the first week is enough jittery and full of anxiety... i used the ltyrosine when the worst days of wds were past and on those days i felt really tired and in the mornings only...The b's and omegas are good

[loveJwhite]

I am taking L-tyrosine, B6 and an omega 3-6-9. Maybe too much, hence, the cracked out feeling. I also have access to ativan, but I haven't taken any yet. How does one feel so speedy on zero sleep?

[vicki595]

Okay..all normal. Are you taking vitamins?  Keeping the caffeine intake down?  Sometimes there's anxiety. If you can,you should go out. Even if you don't go to the meeting,just go out. You'd be amazed at how a change of scenery can put you in a better place.   Try the meeting,though. Just sit. If you're feeling bad,just leave. It's not hard.

I'm so sorry about the miscarriage. That's very hard. All the more reason to go out for a little bit. You need to move,sweetie. And this gal sounds like a good friend...

[laurel453]

ok, i see... yes, you are going through a lot, sorry ...... you are starting to recover your life little by little and with the best decision for your future.. quitting your doc... now, as day 4th is usually one of the worst days in wds and i don't know how bad you are feeling, you are the one who can decide if you are strong enough... anyway, if you can't go today, tell her to call you next time and make sure she knows you are interested... good luck :)

[loveJwhite]

For a lack of a better term- I feel cracked out and totally fatigued at the same exact time. My mind is just buzzing and I'm so shaky.