heroin withdrawl Need advice!!!!

[aJ412]

I had a long road of drugs since i was 13 i am now 17 going to be 18 in a week an started picking up h again i used maybe a bag a week last time now im going through 3-5 a day of pure im out now trying to quit i went to rehab once about 2months ago didnt really help i got high probably 3 weeks after i got out im now thinking about subs or methadone im still chasing the high ive had people tell me methadones probably the best thing but i honestly dont know what to do should a 18 yr old have to be on subs or meth. Someone please lemme know

[Czezcky]

I agree with jethro733. H creates an alternate identity, one that seems to connect better with the world around us. But it is a false connection: you befriend people whom you shouldn't, you make promises you can't keep, you imagine a future where everything would be ok but you never take the steps to actually get there. This "person" that you become is neither sustainable nor real. Rather,  It is you "hijacked" by your addiction and forced to play a part as in a play over and over again: a story that never evolves or progresses but simply repeats itself every time you get high. You are not that person.

[jethro733]

I just popped in to say one thing, because I feel it's important.  When you said "I'm not myself when I'm not high", who exactly do you think you are? Elvis Presley? The reality is that this is who you are, right now.  The whole mentality of wanting to escape and get the 'real me' back is just a load of trash fed to you by your thoughts.  You are not who you were in your memories, that is just dead past like the leaves of Autumn and you are who you are right now.  It is scary yes, but you must look at reality and observe it if you'd like to make a transformation.  

[gnarly_1]

Just wanted to tell you if you do methadone you will loose your desire for sex it happens to weman and men  men got it worst you cant keep it up long enough to even get off I lived around 7 year's in a sexless marriage thank god we had a great relationship on everything else and no viagra wont help  I just know if I where 18 I would want to be able to have sex ...the clinic does not Tell you this there are  talings like ''nodding out at the most inappropriate time then there is the fact that the stuff lingers in your fatty tissues as well as your bones it is by fare the worth withdrawal I ever had think long and hard b/4 you go on it keep posting for support
............................................Gnarly........................................

[Czezcky]

I began using H when I was 18. For the next 20 years I was off and on never getting anywhere in my career. Then I went on methadone and stayed on it for 14 years. Best decision of my life. I have in the last 14 years got my **** together, built a business, made money, bought a home. I have since come completely off the methadone through a slow taper. It was no big deal. Yeah I was tired for a month but it was nothing like the MF **** storm you feel coming off H, not to mention the associated mental addiction that takes a decade to get over. Admittedly, It took four years to taper off the methadone. You cannot do it fast. Impatience in matters of addiction spells nothing but trouble. So yeah.. Methadone is better than a life lost to H, and yeah you can come off methadone when your life is yours again - just do it SLOW.

[motye51]

Vivitrol....thats the name of the injection, stops cravings and is NON-NARCOTIC.
You know, your behavior is not uncommen for alot of us. We are addicts...thats what we do...we lie, cheat, steal and do whatever it takes to not "get sick". We've all done things to the people we love that under mormal citcumstances we would have never done that. This behavior isnt going to change until u change it. My personal opinion, you should give n/a another shot. U dont have to talk, LISTEN! Listen to people that have been where u r now!!!! ******** to subs or methadone for life! Thats a cop-out! You can do this...

[Merri123]

I detoxed off an H habit too 3-4 bags a day. I hated myself. I hated my life. I hated waking up each morning feeling like pure crap. Need another line (I didn't shoot) to feel good.

I finally said no more. I was functioning. Full time going job, 2 kids, house. I did it. It took about 9 days to function ok then another week to lose the yuck sour stomach. But I felt wonderful. Woke up happy each day.

But I still thought about it. If it was in front of me I would've done it. I still think of it 2 years later. But I CAN'T DO IT.

You are so young. You CAN kick this. Buckle down and do it!!!   I would hate to see you get on methadone or subs but if that is the only way right now than it is an option. But please, it is a means to quit. To get your head on straight and get your life in order. Get counseling, go to AA or NA. Get rid of all the using friends. Lean on your family and friends who or not users for support. And be strong!!!

Come here for support.  What do you want to do with the rest of your life? What kind of career? College?   Make those plans. It will be the motivation and plans for the future that will keep you on the correct path.

[Merri123]

I detoxed off an H habit too 3-4 bags a day. I hated myself. I hated my life. I hated waking up each morning feeling like pure crap. Need another line (I didn't shoot) to feel good.

I finally said no more. I was functioning. Full time going job, 2 kids, house. I did it. It took about 9 days to function ok then another week to lose the yuck sour stomach. But I felt wonderful. Woke up happy each day.

But I still thought about it. If it was in front of me I would've done it. I still think of it 2 years later. But I CAN'T DO IT.

You are so young. You CAN kick this. Buckle down and do it!!!   I would hate to see you get on methadone or subs but if that is the only way right now than it is an option. But please, it is a means to quit. To get your head on straight and get your life in order. Get counseling, go to AA or NA. Get rid of all the using friends. Lean on your family and friends who or not users for support. And be strong!!!

Come here for support.  What do you want to do with the rest of your life? What kind of career? College?   Make those plans. It will be the motivation and plans for the future that will keep you on the correct path.

[IBKleen]

Get humble and ask for help. It is a very important step to getting and STAYING clean.

[aJ412]

Im just tired of all the ****** up **** i do i sell drugs beat people so they dont have nothing so i have all the dope idk maybe if i do this ill be on treatment the rest of my life a part of me doesnt want that but even when i had 4 months clean i woke up everyday wanting something i stole from someone i love to get some benzos when i had clean time im trying to break the cycle its just really hard for me i had a 2 days of this month i was clean i had sleep parlyis both of those nights its rough i know i can do it but even in rehab about to leave i told my counselor im gonna have some time clean but i know im gonna get high again they told me im not ready my minds set on treatment but then i have to come clean to everybody i was doing bags again my mind literally does not stop i cant take it anymore

[IBKleen]

Hony, all you are doing is trading one drug for another and YES..you are way too young for all of this. Suboxone is not just a drug. It is a complete program and should be prescribed along with counseling and some form of aftercare. If you just take the drug where will you be? You will be addicted again and then what? If you seek counseling and get to the root of the problem and follow a taper plan to get off when the doctor feels youa re ready then you will be well on your way. Please think about what you are doing before you take that very important step. I will say a prayer for you.

[aJ412]

Thanks for the advice i went to NA meetings for awhile they helped but most of the times i was to anxious to open up in front of people im not myself when im not high thats what i hate the most im probably going to get on subs i still think im to young for all this but thanks for the response... Peace

[motye51]

Welcome to the forum....your question is a great question!!! Because the more info you get, the better off you will be, for sure: especially when it comes to methadone or subs. Methadone and suboxone both have good points but they also have bad ones. I detoxed off of subs in jan, 2014, and im here to tell u it was the worst detox ive ever done in my life. I am at 6 1/2 months and im still dealing with certain aspects of getting off those things. Unless u can find a good sub dr that has a very short term program like 3 months, then i would just w/d off of h. The h w/d is 5/7 days. Sun w/d is minimum 21 days! There is some type of injection that u can get, starts with a v, that is supposed to be once a month to help with cravings and its non-natcotic.
Im sure right now, b/c your out, it seems hopeless, but if u can tough it out, i definately think going c/t is the way to go. Heres hoping u really think this through b/c all we do when we switch from our doc to one of these maintenance things is switching addictions!

[gnarly_1]

Hi  well methadone is better the sticking a needle in your arm but it does come with problems  the withdrawal off methadone is horable it takes months b/4 you feel well as for sub it is not much better if you can kick the H you will be much better off it only takes about a week then your free from the physical withdrawal the mental part will still be with you for me N/A has works it will teach you how to live life on lifes terms so google meetings in your area keep posting for support we all want to see you make it........................Gnarly..................