how to get through Tramadol (plus other) withdrawel in one piece, step by step

[lulu_the_cat]

hi,
actually found this forum by mere chance of desperation
whilst googling I came cross "Emily Post's Journal" somewhere here on the forum
this could be the linky

http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/16030/Day-18-Cold-Turkey-Withdrawal-from-Tramadol

sent a distress call and Rosy and Heather directed me to here
please find below said destress call and maybe you could furnish me with some help
will also read more through this file etc

head is moodled/moddled up, hope the below makes sense

what is actually my question?
how to get through Tramadol (plus other) withdrawel in one piece, step by step

one thing is for sure: in this battle I will come out as the winner and Tramodol as the big looser

destress call
hi,

I am another one glad to have found you
thanks for keeping the thread going
am a few years back to you and slowly reading my way up but thought of jumping on here to let you know of how thankful I am to you all

am all over the place, vomiting, shaking, emotional, angry you name it

not quite sure if I am on day 2 or 5

but I started now to detox and I will get through it! I am stubborn! and this thread will help me through!!!

am/was on a combo of venlafanine, quetiapine, paracetamol, tramadol, quinine and zopiclone
for depression, chronic pain/fibroyalgia, ME, mscle spasms, insomnia etc

my (clever - not) idea was to come off the venla (plus quetiapine) because after years of taking them, they don't make a difference anymore and
"why "inhabit" a reuptake of serotonin when I can take something to increase it (5htp)?" was the thought and wondered why my GP (I think that is what he said at the time) said there is no such thing ...

successfully reduced more and more, no probs until reached a certain dose and than stayed on it for some time now

anyway, far to shakie etc  now

thought I reduce and will stop the venla etc and slowly start taking 5HTP
thought was good until .... I couldn't say what it was that hit me first

anyway, getting the shakes and sweats and vomiting etc I thought it might be to much serotine floating around and treading very carefully around the 5HTP now, actually only took 3 in about a week and stop now, no need to mess me around even more

didn't know that Tramadol has anti-d in it too and am shocked at what I read so far

stopped Tramadol now too, hence no idea which day I am but am rubbish therefore must stil be in days 1 to 4 ish
sorry, concentration on low and dexterity of fingers on keyboard a hit and miss ...
anyway
will continue to read and will get through
went through other withdrawels before but nothing close to this

because of the non sleeping I tried to ease myself of to sleep with  zopiclone last night but even after 3 (!) I was wide awake and I am very sensible in taking zopi and can go without for weeks etc without a problem

regardless of that my GP gives zopi to me very reluctantly ( because of withdrawel - not) but dishes out the Tramadol like sweets the brain zaps etc

my brain is all over the place and reminder of head frequently vomiting over the bucket

drinking sips of water to keep the vomiting experience of "wrenching out my guts" to a minimum
can rely on the "am I dying, or what? and when hopefully soon" - thought train
can't wait for it to be over

any ad hoc tips welcome

lots of love
Lulu

[lulu_the_cat]

now I know what people say ...
the whole withdrawal symps are coming back
sick as a dog
anyone any enlightenment please

[lulu_the_cat]

today's not so good
nausea, throbbing headache, pain in joints, brain zaps, sweating, light and noise sensitive etc
can't really point my finger to why

[lulu_the_cat]

thank you 1ringmaker

FMS is one of those invisible conditions, nobody knows where they come from, nor what can cure them, even getting relieve is like a shoot in the dark

my two pence worth, what it is worth, plus conclusions of what I read plus personal experience is that:
it is genetic (in other words you can not "catch" it) and you either have it in your genetic pool or you haven't (if you haven't - lucky you); no idea if it might be dominant or recessive

lets say it is in your gen pool, you might be
a) a carrier only (pass it on to your children but will not be affected yourself)
b1) it is dormant
b2) it is "awake" can't think of the right word, might be active/activated?

whilst dormant it can be "activated" through ie trauma/stress/etc or God only knows why; could be as early as birth/pre-birth?

one might be able to handle the onset of some symptoms (of a certain strength) for many years (out of no knowledge awailable or called "growing pain"  etc) until more trauma/stress/etc  hits and than symptoms increase and so it goes on until diagrosed/break down/etc

I have not experienced a "getting better", rather a "coping better"/"dealing better" ; stress, not looking after myself, change of weather, etc make symptoms flare up (and down eventually) and overall getting worse gradually

regards of "body ... compensate for it", in my case I battled on for decades w/o pain meds etc and there was no compensation
I will not give up hope thou; maybe now coming off the tram and kicking the pain pumps into action will reveal something new

think that sums it up in a nut shell

[1ringmaker]

Fybremyagia is an autoimmune fluke. Either it was there and not recognized or is a modern condition.  That is one of those illnesses tbat you have to choose your bad days. Im in a wonder that if endured would the body eventually compensate for it. One would be hard pressed waiting for it to happen.
Lulu. Your a kick. Your logic train is pretty cool.

[lulu_the_cat]

.. what I ment was
" on days when I am ok: rejoice and be glad"

[lulu_the_cat]

getting lost in my one thread
and now I forgot what I wanted to update ...

yesterday
had some homous with the rice cakes, more veggie stock, more watered down soja drink and some herb tea
spent still a lot of time in bed with the electric blankett on
also (well done lu) started a bit house work
watched a bit of spooks on youtube

today so far
got lost seaching this site
my skin is itchy from the aggressiv sweat, especially my arm pits and under my breasts and my belly
light headache but at the same time brighter in head itms
frustrated yes (a bit b/c of the whole being "unwell") but depression wise not too bad
still can't look up (w or w/o tilting neck) or shooting pains run through head - but that's nothing to do with trams
sweating further reduced - but drank sage tea which suppresses sweating apparently
pain is barable but walking is difficult and painful and putting pressure on my feet is too
so one day at the time and sometimes one hour at the time
so far this whole episode taught me that patience and .......(can't find the word) maybe gratitude (?) and my handling these have to be rethought regards " it could be much worse (see this week) enjoy and make the best out of all" something like that

thank you for reading and for sticking with me and for posting