hydrocodone withdrawl - sleep

[ragman]

Hi:

I am a 45 yo male who has taken hydrocodone for 6 months for headaches along with zoloff and ambiem for depression. My useage was up to 7 15/100, formulated pills per day. I began taking as many as 4-5 at a time 3 months ago. After several attempts and help from my wife I was able to taper down and quit 2 weeks ago. Best thing I have ever done, may have saved my marriage and job. Most of the worst withdrawl effects are gone now except for a change in sleep patterns. When I go to bed I toss and turn and feel like electricity is going through my body. Is this normal? How long might this go on for? I stay up for a few hours and manage to fall asleep by 1 AM or later on the sofa each night so as not to keep my wife awake. I am still taking Zoloff and have started to taper off the ambiem from 10mg to 5 mg since it is not doing anything anyway.

Thanks for your help.

[Diab1PVCathsmaSVTpain]

I stopped effexor cold turkey and had terrible zaps in my head.  I read online about taking good oils (refrigerated flax seed, oil of evening primrose, and others) along with liquid vit B complex.  This made the symptoms go completely away within a day as long as I kept up with it.  I felt so free.

[newgirl2708]

good advice

[woodcat]

I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box when it comes to ANYTHING on my pc. Can you direct me to how to get to the other posting? I would appreciate your tollerance. If you dont mind too,?, can I ask why that the trams are a bad idea? Are they addictive too? or is there a medical risk? If so, I have a couple buddies I need to  talk to.

[GoingToMakeIt]

Tramadol is a synthetic opiate. Do not use for withdrawals. Also this is an old post. So post this on a new one so we can get to know you. It's slow tonight, but gets real busy in the AM. I'm signing off. See you later.

[woodcat]

has anyone ever heard of taking tramodol to help with withdrawls ? I've had a couple people tell me that it works....... not me! Is it in my head or in they'r head? Am I just different, "more" addicted? I'm try'n the thomas recipe when I get alittle $$, as most of you may understand at this stage of it all I'm broke.

[toxictome]

hey robbie...this is an old thread...repost your question ,you'll get more responses that way..
As far as crawling out of your skin...it depends on your DOC and how much you were doing and how long you were using them. Have you tried hot baths(they really do help), chamomile tea, distracting yourself w/ something else,heating pad....drink lots of fluids, take a multivitamin and  try to eat good. Keep posting

[robbie145]

Day 7--- still crawling out of my skin. It's better than in the beginning, but still can't do what I need to do.  Anyone have an idea of how long till energy will come back?????????

[Greatgreebo]

The original post is 4.5 years old. These people aren't here anymore. Hit the Back to Forum and join the current discussion.
good luck
Greatgreebo

[ButchH8]

Hi Rag. Boy, you gave the best description of the "sleep problem" I have seen."When I go to bed I toss and turn and feel like electricity is going through my body."  After 2 weeks off I begin to return to normal...and now have no problem. But I will never forget the "electricity feeling".  Good luck.

[joy67]

im in the same boat,what did you decide?do you have suport?

[cleensekr]

Gotta question for all of you out there.  I'm about to bite the bullet again, and hopefully quit lortabs and oxycotins for good this time.  I want everyone's opinion.

TAPER OR COLD TURKEY???

cleenseker

[carebear503]

Im sufferingbeginning stages to withdrawl this will be the 3rd time. I take Methadone 30mgs 3 x a day for severe neck shoulder and back pain from an injury to my neck5 years ago- someone I love is swipping my medicine Ive even kept it locked up but once again its missing. in the past I called police and made reports but nothing ever happend .my Dr. has pretty muchsaid if this continues we will have to discontinue my scrip.  Icant get help from a dr. so i will be again getting sick I cut my dose back but it still seems i dont feel normal and I have trouble sleeping and when Im awake I feel horrible, sad, helpless, angry, like I cant go on another day. does anyone know anything that may help the desparate feelings that I know are coming?   please help.

[freebird4good]

Hi, I. just like you, am a type 1 diabetic.  I am on an insulin pump.  I am also happy to say that I am on day 9 today, with no vicodin.    It's tough but I'm hanging in there.

Like you, I have been taking vic for five years.  Steadily for the pas7-8 momths, everyday without fail.  Getting off of the codeine is a *****.  The wd's are awful, especially the restless legs...yikes.  

Does the pain patch / pain meds have an affect on your blood sugar ?     My blood sugar went crazy the first two days that I didn't take any vic.  It was very high, all day and night.  I'm normally very tightly controlled. It's getting more regular now as the week goes on.

I almost slipped up today , but then I thought about those wicked restless leg feelings and decided "Its not worth it" to have to start all over again after 9 days.  Whew...I need to be here today guys.

hoping - As a fellow diabetic,  Please take care of your diabetes.  I am half blind to diabetic retinopathy.  I am preserving what is left of my eyesight as best as I can now.

[mrpolo29]

I have a friend that is a doctor who perscibed me 7.5 hydros for my herniated disc. he then asked me if he doubled my persciption, could he get some of them. I agreed and in no time I was getting hundreds of pills a month at different pharm. around the suburbs of Detroit. i was takin 25-30 tabs of 10m hydro a day. Doc started getting concerned about all the meds and stopped giving me scripts. I thought at first that it was a good thing because i was worried about the effects of the medic. on my body. I found myself looking through other peoples med. cabinets for pain pills. I am a strong christian and I know how wrong it was, but the addiction was so strong that the pills were all I could about. now I have a lady that I do work for that sells hydros. I can get them from her at any time. Sat I finally said enough is enough and tried to quit cold turkey. Sunday had to be the hardest day of my life. Stomach cramps, restless limbs, sleepless nights and the lack of motovation was a nightmare. Monday I took two just to stop the stomach cramping. Yesterday I had to take yet a couple more to motivate myself for work. Today I hope to not take any, but it's 6 a.m. and i have a lot of work to do. I feel ashamed of my addiction to these d@#m things. Sometimes i think, Hey i could have been addicted to meth, alcohol, cocaine or any other habit forming chemical. To some people who read this you may understand what i'm going through. I don't know somehow I feel alone. Another hard part is the friends that i have that also take hydros. If i'm around them, the topic comes up they ask if i need some or could go get them some from the lady i do some work for. I told all of them that i had stopped takin them and the are all happy for me, but still ask if I can hook them up with some. WOW this is tough! But, I have to keep looking at the positives. I went from 20 hydro a day to only taking two. My stomach cramping has subsided alot and no more runny stool. That in itself is motivation not to get back on them. I never want to go back through that again. I know that if I take that many again, I'll have to go back through that nightmare. One day at a time......i have to keep telling myself this. I believe in praying, so for those of you that pray Please pray for me. I'll get through this. Lord willin' and the creek doesn't rise. Or as my former boss would say, Lord willin', doesn't matter what that creek does. Lol. Thanks for listining, Polo

[bettersoon00]

Hey congrats for the willpower. I probably wouldn't have been so strong. It's great that you have the support of friends and family. You should get a new Dr. I have been taking the HTP pills from GNC. They have helped with the depression that hit me about 8 days after a went cold turkey. They may work even better if you take them before the depression hits in (not sure it will but hey, it's better to be safe right?

[kozykunda]

well...it has been six days clean. i went through an intense detox by myself later Wednesday evening (the day of last post). All of my friends were at work, or couldn't leave what they were already committed too, and my dad was at work, and my mom was still 4 hours away from home. I had diareha, vomitting, convulsions, spazm's in my arms for 4 hours while i was trying to sleep, hyper ventalating, weak, my teeth felt numb, the whole bit. I refused to go to a hospital, and i called my dumbass doctor to see if there was anything i could do, and she asked if i wanted more vicoden!!! i was like "are you ******* kidding me? i'm ******* DETOXING" she then asked me if i wanted all of these other pills, and i said no, and she said she would fill some kalonipen (however you spell it) and it'll take the edge off. Mind you I can hardly speak while i'm on the phone with her. So i can't drive, so i have a friend pick it up and drop it off to me. I open the package and there was the kalonipen AND VICODEN. i was so pissed. i ended up selling the vicoden and i didn't take any because i knew if i did, then i would just have to go through this tomorrow, and i was on my 16th hour, so i didn't want to expierience it EVER AGAIN. i then went out of town to my mom's house so i wouldn't be around any resources. the only major side effects now are diareha, not as motivated, and weak. i realized the reason why i never went through this before is because once i quit one drug, i was on another still. so. don't get me wrong, i love vicoden. it's my best ******* friend. i just wish there was something i could take with the same feeling it gave me, (the feeling of being motivated, and calm, not euphoric, just normal) and it not be a narcotic. i wish the best to anyone and everyone who starts or stops abusing pills. you will be much more proud of yourself when you're done.

[kozykunda]

i was taking 15-20 10/500 hydrocodones for a pain that i had in my neck. the prescription obviously didn't start out that strong, but my doctor was giving me 120 pills at a time. it's now been almost 3 months and today is my first day without them, and i'm on my 9th hour and i'm shakey and constantly breaking into tears and i DONT cry. my fall semester of college just began and i made it through the day today, but i have so much to do, i can't afford to miss school, but i can't function. i tried to get in to see my doctor this morning to get more, but i couldn't get in, and a manager at the clinic called me back and said that it's not possible that i can become addicted in that short amount of time. i'm beginning to disagree with him. i'm very dissapointed in myself for doing this to myself. i quit all of the hard drugs i was ever on before cold turkey, and this is the hardest thing i have ever gone through in my life except panic attaks. i kept taking it so much because i was actually calmed down, and i could focus on my work and what i was doing, i was constantly doing something productive, i never really got high off of them, except in the morning, and now i don't know what to do or how to feel. i don't want to check into a rehab because i can't afford it and that's way too embarassing for me. i don't know what to do except find a new doctor that knows what in the hell they're talking about. please help!

[thebrat]

My family is really worried about me and most of the timi I could have cared less, but I know this **** is going to kill me if i don't get off of them. the first entry i read said the guy was taking seven a day. OMG! anywhere between 20-30 a day for me. I have myself down to about 4 a day right now, but when i try to go any lower the anxiety just about puts me over the edge. SCARY! for me and anyone who is in contact with me. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

[mrmichael67]

Come on now.  I never asked you to be serious.  With the **** that goes on here, I had no way of knowing where you were coming from.  I also don't know why you felt the need to take one more poke.  You obviously don't know me and what I post here has nothing to do with the type of person I am.  You just don't know.

[vettezr1]

Yes, she did say something about MDMA or GABA??I appreciate the humor my sense of humor is rather warped as well so much appreciated if ya can

[AmberHunter]

lol, a K hole is when you take enough ketamine so that you basically become paralyzed... for real! used more in rave like parties! i had a g/f who loved going into a K hole, and i have another friend who did a little too much and freaked when he entered the hole!

i would talk to your doctor about it more though before you totally write it off! she can give you more information than me! maybe they use a really, really low dose, i am sure they do! but then again, a K hole would work for pain, you couldn't move ANYTHING, not your arms or your legs, so... no pain, j/k!! keeping it light here! NOT promoting the use of special K! lol! although i do actually promote the therapeutic use of MDMA! seriously!

peace,

amber

[vettezr1]

Damn, my bones already aches thanks for the info I will pass on the Ketamine. It was suppose to be some new way to treat pain non addtictive and non dependant they make it up into a nasal spray The doc knows I am not into pain meds so she has been trying strange stuff to help me out. I don't know what a K hole is but sounds like something I would not like.
Take care.

[vettezr1]

Mike, Chill, I am not upset. I was just kidding with you. I promise I will try and be more serious.

[Bunches]

Hi all,
I'm multi-posting hoping to catch someone's ear and get as much info as I can.
I am hoping the Doc or others might have further info for me on what to expect now that I've officially left detox from Vicodin and have 7 days under my belt.  Today my nerves were wrecked and was so jittery and antsy.  I finally asked the nurse for clonopine so i took one a couple hours ago and that seems to have helped.  Will this go on for some time or will I start to notice a difference in a week or so?  My main concern is this was what really made me reach for another Vicodin and I do have one sitting in my bathroom (I know, I should flush the damn thing down the camode) but haven't and don't want to take it. Geez, think I just gave myself some advice in that last sentence, huh?
Well, would appreciate some further knowledge...