hydrocodone withdrawls

[azaddiction]

I ran out of my pain pills today and I'm really scared of the withdrawls, is there any thing I can do to make them less, well just less everything.  At this time I do not have support, because I have not told anyone, and would rather not.  Please let me know what to expect in the next few days.  I was hoping not to go throught this.  Ive been taking hydrocodone for the last few years, I was given darvocet for tooth pain and thought that maybe by swiching pain meds it may be easier to get of the hydrocodone.  It has been three day's off hydrocodone, and my first day off darvocet tomorrow, and I am in a panic, let me know someone what to expect.  

[generationx]

I went off five days ago, the w/d was my first from vicodin, and I wanted to throw myself into a burning furnace to stop the twisting of my bones and flesh against eachother.  We are living in a world where  there are so many false prophets, and we are so confused, but we are all suffering, I took two more vikes friday then four yesterday, and all gone, mild twinges like w/d but bearable with temazempam.  Worst so far is the mental regression.  I have ptsd and have a memory problem that heals with the pain pills.  But the pain of the w/d is torture and I asked my own mother if I will suffer another withdrawal episode from the 2 then 4 this last weekend, but they were in the am yesterday and no twisty-turns so far, but my boyfriend takes twice as much as I do and he is in bad shape.  Wonder if I will sleep ok tonight?  decided to tell my doc, about this.  Hope I sleep, as I am selfish.  

[azaddiction]

I'm sorry I was hoping for maybe it wont be as bad?  I know anything worth it hurts, losing weight, buying a car a house etc... I just hate the feelings.  I am presently not taking anything I do not have anything to take.  right now I'm not feeling too bad, just ache and lazy, I thought someone would know if this was maybe as bad as It will get.  My question I guess is for anyone out there, do the wd's start right away or could you feel ok the first day off, then It will hit the next day or even the day after that.  I will keep you posted when/if I find out so maybe if someone else has the same question, it may be helpful.  Thanks for checking up on me tnbrowneyes I really do appreciate your input.

[tnbrowneyes]

i think you will do ok if you keep doing like you doing and getting advice and asking questions and keeping your will power up.
im guessing most ppl here have done it dif ways. whatever works.
just keep posting and reading and maybe someone else has done this also.

[tnbrowneyes]

honestly masking the vics with darvocets,,im not too sure about. your taking yourself off one pain med to become addicted to another and sooner or later you will wont to..or need to..face the wd's . nothing will make them go away or stop them only prolong them. make sense?
now..this is your way of dealing with this and i am not the judge nor the jury but be weary of getting hooked on something else. if it walks like a drug, feels like a drug..its a drug..
good luck and keep us posted ok. i hope you can find a way to kick the pain meds when your ready.

[azaddiction]

Well it's my first day off all percription pain med's I took my last darvocet last night, it's about half the strenth of one 5mg vicodin, and as I did the math again I did have 1 1/2 of the vicodin on Wednesday morning, so it's really my forth day today off that at least, I feel ok this morning, not real thrilled about the day, a few body aches and missing the med.  I am hopeful.

Is this normal, the last time if I recall, I woke up feeling a lot worse.  I hope maybe by switching from vicodin to darvocet for those day's in between may have helped, I know pain meds are the same for the most part, but  I really would love not to feel any worse then I do now?  

[tnbrowneyes]

yea those wd's really get ya..you do what you feel you need to do. no one is judging you. not me in anyway. i just hope this forum and advice will help give you the willpower n strength to kick that poison out of your life.
always here for ya..always !!

[jackson50]

I have been reading this forum for the past two weeks and getting ready to quit for three weeks.  I have been on these things for five years for significant back and hip pain. Then I ran out (I was taking  5-6 10mg's lortab daily) and  I made my last two tablets last two days.  After the last half a tab was gone, I was in W/D within six hours.  It was horrible.  Panic, anxiety, restlessness, pain etc.  Thankfully I was able to get a refill at the 8 hr point and went back on.
After that I told my wife of my dependence and this really helped me get through it.
From there I started tapering.  But instead of taking a 10mg tab  every four hours or so like usual, I started breaking them in half and taken them twice as often (every two hours).  I was still getting 60mgs a day but the dose was 5mgs instead of ten.  This lowered the amount that was in my system at any time to half of what it was previously, and helped with the peaks and valleys we all feel.
This went on for six days, then I went to 5mgs every 3 hours for another four days.  Then switched again in three days to every four hours. Then three days later I switched the dose from 5mgs to 3.7 mgs every four hours. At this point (Thursday the 7th) I was at 22.5 mgs daily, down from 60mgs, and the most I ever had in my system was 3.75 mgs.  This tapering was not fun...I felt bad, but not awful, and was able to work at my job through this.  I was ready for this to be over.
I went to a Doctor and got an Rx for Subutex.
Yesterday was going to be my last dose of hydro and I took it at 1:00 pm so I would be in withdrawl by midnight and be able to take the Sub by 2-3 am.
After lots of RLS I finally fell asleep around 1 am.   I woke up this morning and actually felt better than I have all week.  Surprise.. no W/D so far!!!! I'm now at 33 hours and feel pretty good, just a slight headache.
Just having the subutex gave me the courage to tackle the thought of going into W/D...but I haven't used even one.
If it was not for this website I don't think I could have done this.  There is lots of good information here and the support from the other people here is wonderful.
I'll keep you posted.

[azaddiction]

To answer your question about my wd's, for now it's the usual diarrah and panic, I ran out a month ago and had the worst day of my life, diarrah, anxiety, shakes, body pains, pretty much all decribed from every one else.  I was only off a day, the sad part is I started to feel better the day I started again, so I'm just worried that I will never be able to stop.  But please think about me and keep me in your prayers because I have so much living I need to do and I dont want to always be an addict.  Thanks again...

[azaddiction]

Thanks so much for your responses, I did write down the Thomas Recipe and hopefully I'll be able to quit, just really hard because I don't want to quit I just ran out.  I do know I'm at the point were it can't go on forever, and I want to be able to take this opportunity to stop and not start again.  Just hate the feelings.  But I will for sure keep this web site up, because it really does help not to feel alone and to get advice from others in the same boat.  


What and were can you get the colonidine patches or pills, I do not have a PCP to prescribe anything and I really do not want to have to tell anyone in person my problems just yet.

[tnbrowneyes]

What kind of Wd's are you having now? day 3 off hydro..right?
i too am coming off a long time of using them. I am on day 7.
everyone is different but from what i can tell the most common and worst wd's are from day 1 thru 4.  Please read the thomas recipe on the post below it is very handy with the Wd's. my advice ..just dont take anything of a pain med source.. one is just as bad as another. you can mask it but the end result is the same..sooner or later you will need to come off them and now seems like a good time ,,ya know? dont be scared..there are lots of ppl here for your support. we all dailey come here for support, questions, venting(lol). and to just see how ppl are doing and what each can do to help. the wd's seem scary at first but its just a cpl days of discomfort that we ALL have overcome and are here to type about. So please read some of the posts on here and you will see how each person has overcome certian things and you will see the progress and strugles each person here is or has faced and then you will realize..hey..im not alone..makes a huge difference..trust me.
if you need anything im here on n off all day along with dozens of others ok.
just get your mind set to be drug free and you can overcome this.
you will prolly has stomach trouble, RLS, loss of sleep and apetite, tired sluggish feelings and aches like a bad flu..but there are things to help with these..they dont fix them but make you more comfy..so please get the Thomas recipe and stock up and keep posting..ask anything you need to ok.
bad days n good days..we can help. xoxo

[fishmeal]

I've been posting a lot today about the wd's.  Colonidine patches or pills are the best thing going that I found.  I know that other's have used the benzos but they are more of a substitution.... Read around and someone else will post what they did too.  It's good that you are here cause there are a lot of nice people doing the same thing here.